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Sep-21-2012 11:43printcomments

Medical Student Cheating- Is it Institutionalized?

"Cooperate and Graduate": When cheating is the norm.

It doesn’t seem to make any difference where one is or what university, grades are the ONLY thing that matters.
Grades are the ONLY thing that matters...but at what cost?

(PORTLAND, OR) - The New York Times, September 15th 2012, reports “125 Harvard University students cheating on a final exam” by Rebecca Harrington, Harvard 2008. Other reports from all over the country report similar shenanigans even at West Point, Annapolis and the Air Force Academy.

What gives? Best grades get best internships!!! It doesn’t seem to make any difference where one is or what university, grades are the ONLY thing that matters. We have read about the upward slide of grade points. A 4.0 grade point at one time really meant something. It seems now a student can get that by attending class.

The New York Times article ‘Song of the Cheaters’ indicated that Harvard has had this “problem” for generations and the college newspaper, The Crimson, reported that 40% of students at large colleges admitted to cheating.

My own observations about “cheating” are a little different. I have a B.S. in Chemistry, an M.S. in Biochemistry, an M.S. in Pharmacology, a PhD in Pharmacology and a Doctorate of Osteopathy. I went through the medical school curriculums twice, once for my PhD and second for my D.O. I was within a year of a PhD in Biochemistry when I had the opportunity to get into med school for that Ph.D.

For my Biochemistry degrees there was no way to cheat and I made the Dean’s List with 3.5 or better. When I got to med school things were academically severe and I worked my butt off but ended up with a C or 2.0 grade point average and a flunk in Microbiology which was my second major. The final exam class average grade was 93% and I got a 92%, a 93% was a C grade. I knew several of my classmates from before med school and I knew I was just as smart as they were. How did they get such high grades?

I don’t know the answer but I found out that the med school fraternities had files of all previous exams with the correct answers and the frat boys studies those. Was that cheating?? It surely made for very high G.P.A’s.

At my second medical school, the classes had ‘note pools’ of all current lectures but also complete files of every previous school exam and the National Board Exam questions and answers. The students studied the previous exams to get the grade.

In all cases, I got the idea that the students, my classmates, had friends in other medical schools and that the process was wide ranging in many med schools. It was sort of a med students versus faculty in all cases.

The exams were mostly multiple choice and machine graded so that the faculty didn’t actually see and grade them.

My brother is a graduate of a Dental school. He told me the students motto of the place was “COOPERATE AND GRADUATE” so I believe even they had a similar system.

The report about Harvard had a final comment:

THE DEBATE OVER ACADEMIC DISHONESTY IS NOTHING NEW

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Anonymous September 22, 2012 11:52 am (Pacific time)

I am not certain that test banks are necessarily cheating if they simply offer the question and answers and each new test uses different specifics (such as for math) since it still requires the knowledge and experience to derive the right answer.


Ralph E. Stone September 22, 2012 7:20 am (Pacific time)

Maybe, cheating begins in colleges and universities or even earlier, sort of a training ground for later cheating and lying. What is discouraging is that the military academies and Ivy league schools are turning out tomorrow's leaders. Maybe, that's why we are in an age of wide-scale cheating and lying by public officials, researchers, school officials, etc.


Richard Matteoli September 21, 2012 8:27 pm (Pacific time)

This is interesting and so true. In undergrad I could not find assigned books at the library so gave up trying. Freshman year in dental school I saw them on the bookshelf in the dorm of 2 medical students who were my undergraduate classmates. Sophmore year of dental school found out about these old tests and got them all. Copied every one and gave them to everybody. The school let me do it. Back then it was typing on stencils with an old Underwood typrwriter and printing them out. Was class Secretary Junior and Senior years. Only one professor objected to his old tests being 'out there' so I gave them back. In the end they became good teaching aids for all and kept the professors on their toes about the questions for their next tests. It evened the 'playing field' so to speak. When I graduated, they were put in the dental school's library. Other types of things I do not know. Too busy with a 40 hr class schedule, studying and part time work with wife and 3 kids. My grades were average, but was second on all National Boards. When studying these things it is good to understand the why's about the wrong choices given.


Anonymous September 21, 2012 2:58 pm (Pacific time)

While at O.S.U.'s MBA program, this was common practice. In specific cornerstone courses, there were verbatum answers to written exam questions that had to be used in order to get an A. This let the instructors know that the writer was working with others, as the exam answers were only provided the day prior to the exam, and only those who were functionally connected and involved could properly "rehearse" the answers. Wierd? Yes!

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