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Expert Says China Was Taught Lessons in Socialism America Should Have Learned (VIDEO)

Al Hayward is an experienced trade expert who has specialized in trade with China and other, some former, Communist countries.

Bicycles in Beijing Photo By Al Hayward
Bicycles in Beijing.
Photo by Al Hayward

(PORTLAND, Ore.) - Al Hayward knows China like few others. He has decades of experience working there and getting to know the culture, and people. He says he has watched the evolution of capitalism here in the United States slowly evolving into socialism, which is all too familiar to him, and he believes the slippery slope is suddenly getting steep.

“I can tell you, I’ve been there, I’ve seen it," Hayward says, "and I can tell you that socialism and communism didn’t work in Russia, it didn’t work in East Germany, it didn’t work in red China and it won’t work here.”

“Those countries never lost the word, but in reality their policies all came back in and followed American capitalism.”

“The reality of it is the policies of the two countries have almost reversed, the roles have reversed. The recent explosive economic gains that China’s made that you saw during the Olympics, was not an endorsement of communism or socialism, but in fact an endorsement of capitalism."

“They took and did what we did to make this country great, but now we seem to be losing sight of that and slipping back into the policies that they used.”

The Haywards in China Town,
Portland, OR.

Socialism is a very defined term when used by someone who’s lived under that regime. Al Hayward says America should be concerned, because socialism goes against the principals our country was founded on.

“Well we only have to look around at all of our social programs from Medicaid, welfare, now the government’s going into banking, it’s been in to farm aid and etc and etc, so it keeps going that direction. Obama’s campaign is based on ‘do less, work less, get more’, and the reality of this is it doesn’t work that way,” Hayward said.

Based on his eyewitness experiences, and lifelong lessons learned, Al Hayward sees benefits of the Chinese system as well as deficiencies. Where they don’t go wrong is in education, and as a result, an advanced work ethic.

“Education is always number one, for example I lived briefly in a large apartment complex in Beijing and at 3:30 in the afternoon I noticed it got very very quiet in the whole compound. That’s when the children got out of school- because every child had to do homework. And any one of his thousand adopted aunts would see him out there playing and say, hey kid, you got homework to do.”

Wang Hui and Al Hayward have two children, raised in the United States. Wang reflects on how education is viewed in China, “Always, education is a priority. For every single family. You even see a lot of farmers and they realize the future of this country, they need their kids to have a very very good education.”

Hayward says, “It’s upside down from what’s here. Our two daughters have excelled very very well in school and it’s not because necessarily they’re smarter, it’s because they work harder.”

“I have a lot of confidence in American youth, they’ve just got to turn off the TV and go to work.”

Al says he wants what’s best for the future of our country and hopes sharing his perspective will embolden others not to let socialism take hold without their knowledge.

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sts November 1, 2008 4:25 am (Pacific time)

To G.May: Not sure where you get your news from, but I for one see enough evidence of facism in this country to make me literally choke. I strongly agree with Vic. Look up HR1955 and PDD51 for starters. Look up "an army brigade in the U.S." (for civil unrest). Look up "journalist arrested at DNC". How about "90% of the people did not want the bailout". I strongly urge everyone to watch the doucmentary "'Endgame" produced by Alex Jones. It is free on google videos.


Henry Ruark October 31, 2008 4:13 pm (Pacific time)

G.May: Depends on your definition of "substantive",interpretation of longterm events, understandings of strong trends, and insistence on actual state control of industries. We have some parts of allathose already in place, with more threatening ones already on the horizon. How far we've moved from a democratic republic is already very obvious, with next steps surely threatening, whether for return to feudalism or movement, whatever direction, to socialsm, fascism, whatever the label. Given complete picture, best move we can make is return to basic principles set forth by Founding Fathers, with strong effort to correct obvious errors from apathy, inattention, and political pandering by those who stand to gain most from that ongoing seditious action.


G. May October 31, 2008 11:28 am (Pacific time)

Vic - Except that there is no substantive evidence to back up your claim.


Henry Ruark October 31, 2008 11:05 am (Pacific time)

One missing piece: def. for socialism: socialism (as in "political orientation") n. : a political theory advocating state ownership of industry socialism (as in "managed economy") n. : an economic system based on state ownership of capital ================= Partial perversion, as in the huege sums recently required for bailout, and the subsidies underway ever since 1776, does NOT count. Total ownership of all by the state constitutes what's demanded in the def. Trend toward or away differs widely with business cycle, and globalization now forces even further complexity.


Vic October 31, 2008 7:23 am (Pacific time)

What does this "expert" think about fascism? That seems to be what we have now. Here is Websters definition: FASCISM: "A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"


Henry Ruark October 29, 2008 1:19 pm (Pacific time)

To all: Hayward is trader with strong capabilities, for sure. Realist re reactive state in both China and U.S. he is not. Interpretation is all, and his comes from inbuilt attitudes, life experiences, and longtime immersion in very difficult circumstances as China moved from communism to distorted capitalism --without individual freedoms for both expression and action which we enjoy. That's crucial difference, as ongoing very skilled-observer reports will both attest to and document far beyond H's own experience. "Books have been written, documentaries produced, magazines flooded, and other information broadly available" in addition to his single-person, trader-shaped viewpoint, inevitable albeit still valuable, too. Int'vw highly valuable for its report of his views; but still further cogitation, careful exploration and consequences of our 250 years of American freedom must be taken into far stronger relation than shown here, task beyond any one interview. We ain't China, or Chinese, and they ain't American, either...which maketh all the difference in welcom to any and all socialist steps, even when similar approaches may become helpful as in current crisis,forced by neocon departure from what we know best.

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