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Jan-10-2008 18:06printcomments

Kucinich asks for New Hampshire Recount

The Candidate says he makes the request in the interest of election integrity.

Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich
Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich

(DETROIT) - Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, an often outspoken advocate in the Presidential field and in Congress for election integrity, paper-ballot elections, and campaign finance reform, has sent a letter to the New Hampshire Secretary of State asking for a recount of Tuesday's election.

He says it is important because of "unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots."

"I am not making this request in the expectation that a recount will significantly affect the number of votes that were cast on my behalf," Kucinich stressed in a letter to Secretary of State William M. Gardner. But, "Serious and credible reports, allegations, and rumors have surfaced in the past few days ... It is imperative that these questions be addressed in the interest of public confidence in the integrity of the election process and the election machinery - not just in New Hampshire, but in every other state that conducts a primary election."

Also, the reports, allegations, and rumors regarding possible vote-count irregularities have been further fueled Kucinich says, by the stunning disparities between various "independent" pre-election polls and the actual election results," Kucinich wrote. "The integrity, credibility, and value of independent polling are separate issues, but they appear to be relevant in the context of New Hampshire's votes."

He added, "Ever since the 2000 election - and even before - the American people have been losing faith in the belief that their votes were actually counted. This recount isn't about who won 39% of 36% or even 1%. It's about establishing whether 100% of the voters had 100% of their votes counted exactly the way they cast them."

Kucinich, who drew about 1.4% of the New Hampshire Democratic primary vote, wrote, "This is not about my candidacy or any other individual candidacy. It is about the integrity of the election process." No other Democratic candidate, he noted, has stepped forward to question or pursue the claims being made.

"New Hampshire is in the unique position to address - and, if so determined, rectify - these issues before they escalate into a massive, nationwide suspicion of the process by which Americans elect their President. Based on the controversies surrounding the Presidential elections in 2004 and 2000, New Hampshire is in a prime position to investigate possible irregularities and to issue findings for the benefit of the entire nation," Kucinich wrote in his letter.

"Without an official recount, the voters of New Hampshire and the rest of the nation will never know whether there are flaws in our electoral system that need to be identified and addressed at this relatively early point in the Presidential nominating process," said Kucinich, who is campaigning in Michigan this week in advance of next Tuesday's Presidential primary in that state.




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Anonymous January 13, 2008 10:01 am (Pacific time)

Ruark doing the counting. Can he count?


Henry Ruark January 13, 2008 7:02 am (Pacific time)

Jim McM: My Comment was accurate; check to see in any state education law, then report if you find digression from fact. There's no question of why distorting story was sent here,as part of ongoing attack on channel. Re irrelevance on Kucinich vote-count, happens I was on board for one supervising round in Vermont...and if you think things tough-and-tense here, you ain't ever sat in on such in Vt. State awarded my group their highest Certificate (framed on wall here) after that one -- with approval from those who fought us hardest on decisions we made, at that. Which again is symptomatic of real values they live by, in Vermont...we could learn a little something from them.


Jim Mcmullan January 12, 2008 10:59 pm (Pacific time)

Yes, Kucinich figures with a recount (and Ruark counting) he could score another 30% of the vote.


Henry Ruark January 12, 2008 5:36 am (Pacific time)

To all: Note N-N's fantasy re math curriculum lists no source. IF this existed in reality, you can be sure there would be a link. SO per "see with own eyes" pattern of mine own here, this is challenge to him to show this progression in ANY state curriculum document. FYI, states DO control what is selected for presentation in the schools, despite the NCLB effort to force otherwise action on them by threat and one-shot testing designed to drive learning efforts into a certain pattern. That pattern re tests now recently examined nicely in another story-thread, in this channel, for your edification and guidance, intended as helpful to all. Do you really believe this from N-N intended in same good faith manner and pattern ??


Neal Feldman January 11, 2008 9:20 pm (Pacific time)

Jefferson - Ah yes more myopic neocon idiocy. Only morons look at that and think it clever. Ah well...


Jefferson January 11, 2008 6:16 pm (Pacific time)

To avoid future ballot problems for those individual voters, I wonder what Kucinich thinks about educating people like the ones who left those hanging chads in Florida (all democratic counties by the way, ummm). Maybe with feldman's essay insight he can answer "teaching math in 1990 [below]?
Teaching Math in 1950:
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A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100.
His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.
What is his profit?
Teaching Math in 1960:
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A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100.
His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80.
What is his profit?
Teaching Math in 1970:
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A logger exchanges a set, “L”, of lumber for a set, “M”, of money.
The cardinality of set “M” is 100. Each element is worth one dollar.
Make 100 dots representing the elements of the set “M.” The set “C”, the cost of production contains 20 fewer points than set “M”
Represent the set “C” as a subset of set “M” and answer the following question: What is the cardinality of the set “P” of profits?
Teaching Math in 1980:
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A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100.
His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20.
Your assignment is to - Write and underline the number “20”.
Teaching Math in 1990:(The below for you progressive union types)
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By cutting down beautiful trees and desecrating the precious forest a logger makes $20.
What do you think of this way of making a living?
Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the forest birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down the trees? - There are no wrong answers.
Teaching Math in 2008 (in California): (The below for you open border people)
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“El hachero vende un camion cargapor 100,000 pesos.
La cuestade production es...


Jefferson January 11, 2008 9:07 am (Pacific time)

Maybe Algore can help?


Neal Feldman January 11, 2008 3:36 pm (Pacific time)

Jefferson - I left 2000 the moment it became 2001. What you despise is that I can move on through history without forgetting events. (such as clearly proven thefts of a presidential election - If it had been a em theft of a GoP victory your kind would never shut up about it for a thousand years and you know it. So why dio you expect me to be a nice little sheep and fall into line with your BS then? A bit hypocritical on your part, to say the least, eh? LOL! As to breakdowns from one polling method to another different precincts tend to use different methods and even in areas where multiple methods might be employed certain demographics might prefer one method ver another. That is why Oregon is better. Only one method (mail in ballot) where a line is drawn... no chads (hanging or otherwise). No reason being homebound deprives one of their right to vote or poor voter turnout because election day proved to have inclement weather. The way of the future. But neocons hate it because where there is increased voter participation their BS gets less traction which is why it is next to impossible for republicans to win statewide office in Oregon. Yes there is Gordon Smith but he is about as moderate a republican as one gets without their switching party affiliation. Ah well...


Jefferson January 11, 2008 2:59 pm (Pacific time)

John, do they call this (exit polls)the "Brady effect?" I think we have a real conspiracy developing and I know who may help. Calling feldman, can you leave the year 2000 for a while and help these democratic people with this? Thanks bunches, little buddy...


John Lovejoy January 11, 2008 12:25 pm (Pacific time)

Assuming that the GOP would prefer Hillary Clinton be the nominee because they believe her easier to defeat, the following facts from New Hampshire are very troubling, indeed: Clinton Optical scan 91,717 52.95% Obama Optical scan 81,495 47.05% Clinton Hand-counted 20,889 47.05% Obama Hand-counted 23,509 52.95% "If you have faith that the Diebold equipment is accurate, you are left only with the supposition that many voters in New Hampshire lie to exit pollsters or are secret racists - and the ones who do so also vote on optical scan equipment." --Bruce O'Dell, a self-employed information technology consultant with more than twenty five years' experience. Here's the story: http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bruce_o__080110_obama_clinton_3a_remar.htm


Jefferson January 11, 2008 12:19 pm (Pacific time)

SDI I see you're striving for brevity, good for you! LOL


Henry Ruark January 11, 2008 11:47 am (Pacific time)

POM now seeks simplicity as seldom before, showing beginning realization that most here preparing tune-out or already using-same, since deeply offended by continuing malign attempt to dominate and of course to "obfuscate" by any means and with considerable malign intent clearly obvious in all-such. That ain't "debate", which commences with ID of each party and continues with constant careful consideration NOT to attack except via fact and without violent, venomous vituperation-multiplied.


Jefferson January 11, 2008 9:07 am (Pacific time)

Maybe Kerry can help?

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