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Dec-28-2008 02:28TweetFollow @OregonNews Group Urges Americans to Speak Out Against Planned Bush Blanket PardonsTim King Salem-News.comThe group says it is extremely important to block the pardons before they can happen.
(SALEM, Ore.) - A group called The People's Email Network, is urging Americans to do what they can to stop the Bush Administration from issuing pardons that will absolve Vice-President Dick Cheney and others from future retribution over alleged crimes committed during the presidency. They say a recent round of pardons from President Bush are just a sign of things to come. "Pay no attention to the handful of Christmas pardons granted by Bush. This is mere political window dressing to distract from the bumper crop of blanket absolutions, including one for himself, scheduled to be released just before midnight on Jan 19th," the group said. Cheney will be remembered for his implication that waterboarding is not torture, despite the fact that such practice can be prosecuted as a war crime in most civilized countries. Critics point to a recent interview with the Washington Times, during which Mr. Cheney said "I felt very good about what we did. I think it was the right thing to do." The People's Email Network said, "Cheney would not so arrogantly be bragging on TV about how he authorized torture if it were not so." I witnessed a result of the U.S. policy on treatment of Iraqi detainees last summer, it isn't the kind of thing any person would soon forget. (see: A Disturbing Night in Iraq: Witnessing the Abuse of 'Insurgent' Prisoners) Ten members of Congress have already gotten behind a resolution in Congress, House Resolution 1531, preemptively condemning the Presidential self-pardon. More Congressmen and women need to sponsor the resolution to get it off the ground. Concerned citizens have the right to contact their representative and make their feelings on the matter known. Sometimes contact with elected officials can bring surprising results. The Action Page To Stop The Bush Pardons is located at this link: usalone.com/hres1531.php. The group says each action page submitted "is another lump of coal in Cheney's stocking." "Some have speculated on the possibility of post inauguration impeachment, especially considering the fact that many insiders are waiting until then to spill the beans. Maybe they don't want to get bumped off in a suspicious plane crash like Mike Connell." (see: SF Gate: Cheney wielded the war to deceive) They say a self pardon at the very last minute would certainly be grounds for some kind of action, "perhaps even impeachment, if and only if Congress would react and take action immediately." "So we will still continue to distribute the impeachment message items until the very last minute as well," they added. The group says they hope to raise a renewed hue and cry "when the expected happens" on January 19th. "How hard could it be to get members of Congress to simply raise their hand and declare that a presidential self pardon, let alone pardon of his criminal co-conspirators, is maybe not such a good idea? If we are to draw the line anywhere, this is where is must be drawn." -----------------------------------------------------
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Henry Ruark December 29, 2008 3:36 pm (Pacific time)
T-Bad: No question Constitutional remedy should be applied --and that's been precisely the point of previous Op Eds for some time. Did you read any of those ?If not, suggest you do so. Re Reid/Pelosi, future mau surprise you et al. Re evasion by incoming, that's part of "imperial Presidency" of which we've surely had near-fatal fill already. Question for you: Impeach NOW, or Later, Or NEVER ? Where do YOU stand, given will to do as Founders clearly intended ?
Too Bad December 29, 2008 1:33 pm (Pacific time)
The Constitutional remedy is an Amendment! Yeah it's a real bummer for I would like to see Bush have some face time with some impartial prosecutors, but for probably different reasons than the radicals. We have these three separate powers, and the Executive Branch has the "power of pardon." If someone has a way of by-passing the constitution, then I imagine some others much beter educated in the law do also. So how come Reid and Pelosi are not putting this up for a vote? Maybe they understand how the constitution works? Maybe those currently in power and those coming in realize that they are also probable defendents in the future if they attempt to usurp the constitution like uneducated radicals would like to do?
Henry Ruark December 29, 2008 10:08 am (Pacific time)
T/B et al: You wrote: "The impeachment and even a possible criminal indictment are both dead in the water." Please cit any source except your own feeling for that flat declaration; national sources indicate otherwise. Re "letal jeopardy" accusation is only further proof that the Constitutional remedy must be applied, if we are to preserve any semblance of American "exceptionalism" and devotion to democratic declarations forming the entire basis of our governance history. "Unfortunate" is extremely light wording for escape of cabal/predators with obvious record for worst damages ever inflicted on our nation --and by those with sworn commitment to protect and defend the Constitution. If we allow them to ride away blithely into the sunshine, with saddlebags stuffed full of book-takings, we deserve the notorious place in history we will have earned --and the contempt of the rest of the civilized world.
Anonymous December 29, 2008 9:46 am (Pacific time)
And i wait for the day that i can complain as loudly about obama as certain groups and peolpes complain about bush. Godless Hippies!
unknown December 29, 2008 2:46 am (Pacific time)
I witnessed a result of the U.S. policy on treatment of Iraqi detainees last summer, it isn't the kind of thing any person would soon forget. I SAW THE VIDEOS FROM THE VICTIMS WHO GOT THEIR HEAD CUT OFF VERY SLOW BY THE TERRORISTS. I WILL NOT FORGET THE SCREAMS OF THE VICTIMS, EVER.
Too Bad December 28, 2008 5:57 pm (Pacific time)
It would require a constitutional amendment to vacate the pardon power of the president. Pretty unlikely that would happen, especially with a new administration coming in. The impeachment and even a possible criminal indictment are both dead in the water. I expect that when Eric Holder is up for AG confirmation this spring, many may be shocked at his part in some highly questionable pardons in the final days of Clinton. It's unfortunate that Bush will walk, but over half the senate and the house would also be in legal jeopardy. Perhaps 2011 will be a year that will see many impeachments.
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