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Aug-14-2009 00:56TweetFollow @OregonNews A Young Mom Castrates Her Child Instead of Circumcising HimM. H. Navoiseau-Bertaux for Salem-News.comAmerican collective circumcising madness is responsible.
(PARIS, France) - The circumcision polemic has recently come to an extreme point in Houston (Texas). Indeed, on the next morning of an argument with her husband about circumcising their baby or not, a young and pretty mother has castrated her baby. This caricature of circumcision is the most ferocious lesson that can be given to the collective circumcising madness that has been raging for decades in the United States. (see: Prosecutors say parents argued before mutilation - By BRIAN ROGERS Houston Chronicle) Indeed, the only way to explain Katherine Nadal's desperate gesture is to understand that the young mom's troubled mind has merely mingled the whole sex and the foreskin. Psychoanalysis teaches that this is a typical form of unconscious reasoning, commonly called madness. Freud calls it "condensation"; Lacan, pointing out that it is a purely mental and linguistic process, calls it "metonymy". The metonymy at work in this case is: the whole instead of the part. The young mum is of course irresponsible. American collective circumcising madness is responsible. The American Medical Association must immediately pronounce the abolition of circumcision. Previous Salem-News.com articles relating to circumcision:
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Michael McArthur December 20, 2016 10:07 pm (Pacific time)
To be fair and honest, I would rather be castrated than circumcised!! For one, castration would hurt less, and secondly, it would be less psychologically dammaging!!
Lesbian beater June 23, 2012 5:40 am (Pacific time)
To all the man hating lesbians who think a woman lopping off the gentitals of only their male children, i think you need to be shot in the face and left for crows to peck at your unseeing staring eyes.
Dan June 12, 2012 12:27 pm (Pacific time)
Ohh, I see...it should be ok for a mom to abort and kill her child, but it should be morally and legally wrong to circumcise her son? IDIOTS
Dennis June 12, 2012 12:25 pm (Pacific time)
It wasn't so called "circumcision madness", she was on drugs when she did this you morons.
Wallace April 21, 2012 6:05 am (Pacific time)
Phallectomized or Penectomized are better words to describe what happened. Castration usually refers to cutting off one's testicles. This boy had his penis cut off.
Keith January 12, 2012 11:00 am (Pacific time)
The cutting of any part of the genitalia of a child is illegal in the USA, and most civilised countries. Girls are protected, but the mutilation of boys never results in prosecution. That is because the authorities are too gutless to uphold the laws.
Judy Long January 8, 2012 9:06 am (Pacific time)
I read where a mom wanted to castrate her son at age 2,, the church did it at age 10, sounds like a good idea to me, the more you castrate the little ones the better,,will not be as much crime, they will be gentle little boys,,and not so mean..
August 15, 2011 6:10 pm (Pacific time)
cut off her vagina
Sigismond (Michel-Hervé Naviseau-Be August 30, 2009 8:42 am (Pacific time)
The big problem in this affair is that the court did not even nominate a psychiatrist expert. There are laws that prevent sending a mad person into jail. This is not justice, it's mere jailing without examination.
amen ronald oberollenzer August 25, 2009 10:42 am (Pacific time)
"No law exists in the US of A that allows anyone to willfully inflict unnecessary, medically not indicated pain, suffering, damage, injury, mutilation or other harm to a child. Every child is equally protected by US-LAW without legal exemption. ...ACT THE LAW!!! PROTECT HUMANITY." ... THIS ACT IS OUTLAWED ... it is pathetic to act as if it were legal. amen http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=AwBCElbVkuY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfVN6vEpKss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma8WEXDspnA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwm4P6gg1EY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlUZ2eN2vGoMehr lesen
Anonymous August 23, 2009 7:18 am (Pacific time)
Mrs Nadal did not do it, the dog did, demonstration is simple: if she had done it, she would have been mad and wanted to castrate as a symbolic crazy vengeance in the argument against her mate. But the baby's hip was also injured; only the dog can have done this.
Michelle August 21, 2009 2:09 pm (Pacific time)
These parents wouldn't be fighting over an arbitrary penis reduction surgery if it weren't integrated into our culture. MGM should be banned! Criminalize infant circumcision. Boys aren't born stupid! They're not born needing genital surgery either! Are you really saying all boys are defected at birth therefor needs a penis reduction at birth? You mean to tell me that boys are too stupid to know basic hygiene for their own sex organs?
Michelle August 20, 2009 11:20 pm (Pacific time)
I want to repeat this, "It is high time to outlaw circumcision, in the whole world." - Michel-Hervé Naviseau
Sigismond (Michel-Hervé Naviseau-Be August 20, 2009 4:20 am (Pacific time)
Mrs. Jennifer Coias, 08.18.09, 17:20, on facebook, brought new evidence in the Houston castration case we'll certainly hear about again since appeal has been made. Five weeks after her baby's birth, Mrs. Nadal was down in deep post-partum depression, a fact attested by her taking pain-killers (methadone notably, which is supposed to prevent from addiction) rather than being “high” on drugs, as unjustly reproached. Mrs Nadal has been condemned on the highly unbelievable and unproven assumption that she would have castrated her child, which she has constantly denied. She logically “showed no remorse at the 99 year sentence” as a prosecution-minded journalist emphasized, insinuating she would be a monster. Nevertheless, since no blood or DNA was found on either sharp instruments in the house or the dachshund, this pure hypothesis is doubtful. There was no blood on the keen-teeth hunter simply because it had greedily licked his chops and paws. Anyway, in this extreme supposition, Mrs. Nadal was insane, not guilty of extraordinary hateful vengeance against her companion with whom, besides, she had an argument, not a knife fight. It appeared, at the sentencing, that hatred in the couple did not come from Mrs Nadal but from her high on hatred companion who, as she shouted: “I didn’t hurt him.”, screamed at her in response: “You abused him while he was still in the womb!” (http://www.newser.com/tag/687/1/texas.html). Another example of men's hatred in this trial came from the prosecution: “At closing arguments, the district attorney showed a picture of the smiling child and told the jury, "This kid has so many problems coming toward him in the future. She took his identity, folks. And she either flushed it or threw it in the trash can somewhere." ” (http://www.newser.com/story/67170/texas-mom-gets-99-years-for-cutting-off-sons-genitals.html) But we have learnt that, in the ambulance to the hospital, her only concern was the future of her baby: “Zalesnik was shown his report notes in which he wrote that Nadal had asked in the ambulance, "Is my baby going to live?" ” (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/localandid=6961392andrss=rss-ktrk-article-6961392) “Oncken also said after Holden was attacked, Nadal was more focused on how long her son's surgery was going to take”. (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/localandid=6961392andrss=rss-ktrk-article-6961392) But prosecutor Oncken insidiously meant that Mrs Nadal only wanted to be free as soon as possible. America is decidedly mad of circumcision: how can a state court of justice condemn first without proof and second, judge an obviously insane person without psychiatric expertise. This can only be due to deep post circumcision traumatic disorder, unconsciously affecting women as well as men. It is high time to outlaw circumcision, in the whole world.
Sigismond (Michel-Hervé Naviseau-Be August 20, 2009 2:42 am (Pacific time)
Here we are! There was no psychiatric expert in a likely but not surely past-partum-depression case! Is this justice?! Which country are we in?! - A developped country???
Anonymous August 18, 2009 8:53 am (Pacific time)
"it was a wound from a sharp metal object" one expert said so, the other one said it can be the dog. This is not a proof. Wouldn't the best proof be to render his mother to the baby? He should make the proof, shouldn't he?
Sigismond (Michel-Hervé Naviseau-Be August 18, 2009 7:50 am (Pacific time)
A baby, his mother and the dog take a nap but waking up is a nightmare: the baby has been castrated. The jury declared the mother guilty seemingly for two reasons: she is a drug-addict and, the day before, had argued against her husband who did not want the baby circumcised. But the strongest charge against Mrs Nadal has remained untold: America's circumcising guilt has found a ready-made scapegoat in her and her defenders have been unable to speak out against the heavy weight of the collective circumcising paedo-criminality. However, two proofs speak against the dog: dachshunds are a species of hunting dogs, the baby's genitals have not been found and the family's pet may well have carefully licked his lips and paws away from every trace of blood. Therefore, it is likely that his gross way of realizing the so wanted by his mistress circumcision found millions of defenders. In any country but the United States of America, Mrs. Nadal would be discharged for total lack of proof.
Sigismond (Michel-Hervé Naviseau-Be August 18, 2009 4:07 am (Pacific time)
QUESTIONS TO MR THE PROSECUTOR 1) Did Katherine Nadal ate the missing genitals of her baby or did she gave them to the dog? 2) In the last case, didn't the dog greedily licked his lips and paws of all the delicious, fresh and warm baby's blood, a lion's meal? 3) Didn't you carefully wash your hands of the two preceding questions merely because you prefer jailing a woman than a dog? 4) Would you have the same dog guard your own baby? 5) Do you think that you may have made the jury feel guilty by excess of eloquence? 6) May I suggest that your next request be Katherine Nadal's discharge for total lack of proof? Justice without proof is mere delirium.
Arielski August 17, 2009 7:53 pm (Pacific time)
Katherine Nadal, the baby's mother, was not confused, unless you consider her huge intake of cocaine, methadone and tranquilizers a cause of "confusion. The baby's penis and scrotum were both amputated. Nadal claimed "the dog did it". While the baby was in the ER getting half of his blood volume replaced by transfusion, Nadal asked "how long is this going to take", then went out to a bar to await the medical report. This "Young and pretty mother" is a monster who was sentenced today to 99 years in prison.
"Skipper" Osborne August 17, 2009 9:13 am (Pacific time)
We must distinguish between "male" and "female:" FEMALE CIRCUMCISION SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, THAT IS MUTILATION OF THE VIGINA!" Male circumcision has been practiced since ancient Egyptian times, and it is proven for males, their is no hinderance to the neonatal function. Wikapedia states, "The World Health Organization (WHO; 2007), the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS; 2007), and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC; 2008) state that evidence indicates male circumcision significantly reduces the risk of HIV acquisition by men during penile-vaginal sex, but also state that circumcision only provides minimal protection and should not replace other interventions to prevent transmission of HIV. Folks, the main focus of Navoiseau-Bertauxs' article: IS CASTERATION, "PLEASE" LET US DISCUSS C-A-S-T-E-R-A-T-I-O-N!
Sigismond (Michel-Hervé Naviseau-Be August 17, 2009 8:48 am (Pacific time)
God created man, the devil created the foreskin...!
Sigismond (Michel-Hervé Naviseau-Be August 17, 2009 8:45 am (Pacific time)
I've been assuming that the mum did castrate her child but I do not believe a word of it; the dog did it. It's a species of hunting dogs; moreover, since the reason why the dog was not incriminated is that no blood was found upon it, it may very well have carefully licked his jaws and paws of all trace of blood.
Dave August 16, 2009 8:39 pm (Pacific time)
If circumcision were illegal and was not done in the U.S., the mom and dad would never have argued about it. While they may have argued about something else, and while the mom might have hurt her son in some other way, she would never have thought to completely remove all his sex organs for revenge, if circumcision were not in her head as being "normal." Indeed, circumcision should be outlawed. It is abnormal and a psycho-sexual abberation. It removes healthy, normal, protective, and sexually important tissue. www.cirp.org, www.circumstitions.com, www.nocirc.org, www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org, www.sexasnatureintendedit.com.
Tarja Eva Karhu August 16, 2009 5:19 pm (Pacific time)
I'm really at loss for words...poor baby...
Mike H. August 15, 2009 1:34 pm (Pacific time)
WTF, am I the only one not losing my mind? Why would circumcision need to be abolished? Circumcision madness? Castration is not okay, circumcision though, is really no big deal.
Jane August 15, 2009 8:17 am (Pacific time)
Circumcision is genital mutiliation.
Sigismond August 15, 2009 1:47 am (Pacific time)
Let's wait for what the American psychiatric experts will say. I seriously doubt they would disapprove my position. However, there is one point I didn't speak about: this case illustrates the terrible harm caused by addiction. Of course addiction in itself renders mad but, in this case, addiction is reinforced by collective crazyness, unique in the world but for similar, though religious crazyness.
brittany August 14, 2009 12:31 pm (Pacific time)
you can't possibly be serious? there is a name for everything , isn't there? Collective What? There are plenty of sick people in the world, and a "label" to fit everyone.
"Skipper" Osborne August 14, 2009 10:10 am (Pacific time)
Navoiseau-Bertaux, your article was miss-guided; you wrote more on "circumcision" vs. "CASTRATION." Anyone who tries to put some kind of "psychosis" on this Katherine Nadal is pure nuts. Mrs. Nadal should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law: BECAUSE SHE CASTRATED HER SON OUT OF VINDICTIVENESS AGAINS HER HUSBAND! Young and pretty mother should not get in the way of what the child had/is going through, and her presecution. I thought I would never say this: Children Services Division should be involved in this case, like yesterday!
Jack August 14, 2009 6:36 am (Pacific time)
Wow, although this is such a horrible story, it is very good to hear the final point; "American Medical Association must immediately pronounce the abolition of circumcision." This is so overdue. This circumcision madness must stop. The insanity of the US position is highlighted by the psople deciding on whether to now promote this (yes instead of abolishing it, it may be recomended) have no knowlede of the errogenous and protective nature of this tissue. They do not consider that the parts amputated conatin the main male pleasure zones (about 20,000 fine touch and stretch nerve sensors). It is like color blind people advocating taking color sight form a baby. They don't know and they don't care.
. August 14, 2009 6:32 am (Pacific time)
....the frick'n witch needs to be burned at the stake!
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