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France escorts January 2, 2013 2:19 pm (Pacific time)

www.salem-news.com is a one of the more impressive blogs I've seen. Thanks so much for keeping the internet classy for a change. Youve got style, class, bravado. I mean it. Please keep it up because without the internet is definitely lacking in intelligence.

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Paris escort January 2, 2013 1:32 pm (Pacific time)

There is clearly a bunch to identify about this. I assume you made some good points in features also.

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justforlolz June 30, 2012 7:38 am (Pacific time)

albury smith shill ( aka ass ) is an unqualified, anonymous troll, a demonstrable liar, who spends his life trolling any website that refers to 911 truth, posting his unsolicited absurd misinformation, disinformation and obfuscations on every page possible, tirelessly and repetitively.. all the while pretending to be some sort of final arbiter, on all things 911 who, while remaining anonymous, continually slanders qualified experts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fUT7XgLiTY

the official version of events is nothing more than mere allegations. there has never been any credible evidence offered to support any of it. as a matter of fact, their own *evidence* actually proves 100% the official version of events can not be true, as a little investigation into the murray street engine shows... http://ckpi.typepad.com/christopher_king/2009/09/murray-street-engine.html

It doesnt matter how or what was used to bring building 7 down, or if it took ten seconds or thirty. The fact that building 7 fell at freefall acceleration for ~2.5 seconds, as acknowledged begrudgingly by NIST, IS evidence that explosives were used as it is IMPOSSIBLE for all the structural support necessary for freefall acceleration to be achieved to be removed instantaneously and simultaneously without some form of controlled demolition. http://rememberbuilding7.org/

as he well knows, and as he is unable to prove otherwise beyond any reasonable doubt, not just because he is an anonymous unqualified troll, but because the laws of physics applied just as much on 9-11 as they do today. any legitimate psychiatrist would therefore regard alburys position as insane. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/09/psychologists-mental-health-questioning-911-sane.html

further evidence of his chutzpah can be witnessed via a simple internet search for "albury smith 9 11" - his pitiful efforts are quite amusing as he stuggles against an overwhelming growing majority of people who after looking into a few facts, find it not unreasonable for family members of the victims to be calling for a proper independent transparent unfettered investigation with subpoena power, as called for, by an overwhelming, continually growing, majority of the worlds population, a fact verifiable by past and recent polls. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/09/911-and-the-war-on-terror-polls-show-what-people-really-believe-10-years-later.html


albury currently going flat out at these sites lol..

http://www.wmnf.org/news_stories/911-debate-do-we-know-the-truth
http://911truthedmonton.blogspot.com/2012/06/looking-back-2011-fringe-festival.html
http://theupliftingcrane.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/professionals-for-911-truth-2/
http://www.straight.com/article-697721/vancouver/911-truthers-event-follows-victory
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/06/04/do-we-need-another-911-conspiracy-theory/comment-page-1/?wpmp_switcher=mobile
http://commonground.ca/2012/06/911-bamboozle/
http://thedailynewsonline.com/opinion/article_4d828b2a-b186-11e1-8114-001a4bcf887a.html
http://govtslaves.info/former-head-of-star-wars-program-says-cheney-main-911-suspect/


just for lolz... type "gormless shill" into google...

the answer is priceless.

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Informed Citizen April 21, 2012 7:54 pm (Pacific time)

Response to Albury Smith RE Building 7 He knows full well the 47 storied 81 vertically columned steel framed high rise WTC7 took 6.5 + seconds to come straight down into its own footprint during its FINAL global collapse phase, described by eyewitness reports as ‘In the manner of Controlled Demolition”. He also knows 2.25 seconds of that was at FREE FALL speed and has to rely on the ‘new phenomenon’ magic bolt hypothesis of Pinocchio Sunder, leader of creatioNIST Agnotology, to explain the complete removal of the 81 vertical columns all at once to allow observed NO RESISTANT FREE FALL. The hypothesis is coming apart. We already know NIST WTC7 “Normal Office Furnishings Fires’ is a computer program. A construct. An ‘animation’. Un-tested and secret, not based on forensic study nor eyewitness testimony. We know that in this untested theory ‘critical collapse initiation’ began with fires already out on ONE floor [12] somehow heating 4 major beams enough to axially expand them in ONE direction, without SAG, breaking 3/4? shear studs@22? centers,’walking’ the massive girder between columns 44 and 79 off its ONE seat, thus, in NIST La La, creating a ‘cascade collapse’ somehow spreading within split seconds throughout the super strong infrastructure http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/19/realestate/commercial-property-salomon-solution-building-within-building-cost-200-million.html and dropping it at FREE FALL, all concrete pulverized to nanothermate ridden DUST, 6.5seconds + later. We know that no steel framed high rise has EVER fallen in such manner due to fire. We KNOW that serious experts contested the breaking of shear studs http://uwaterloo911.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/david-proe-and-ianthomas-wtc7-comments.pdf and that NIST engineers themselves doubted the methods being used compiling the report http://uwaterloo911.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/fire-engineering-fmr-nist-cheif-challenges-niosh-wtc-report.pdf We know that major fire studies by Cardington institute with fires burning hotter and much longer produced NO such differential stresses breaking the shear studs. Yet NIST said that’s what happened. An NISTs ENTIRE theory rests upon those shear stud breaks. Recent studies presented http://www.911blogger.com/news/2012-03-10/tangled-webs-nist-and-wtc7#comment-256007 based on study of WTC7 plans have utterly refuted the possibility of the axial expansion as presented by NIST, showing the strength of connection at column 79 seat and the skewed parameters of modeling data preclude seat failure. [NIST equations done on UNrestrained steel][Plates securing both sides of vertical girder flange to column,TWO lines of shear studs on internal girders], a presentation adding to the excellent work done by AE911truth researchers and definitive WTC7 ‘Mysterious Collapse’ book by D R Griffin, which identifies just HOW the differential stresses were CREATED in the model to crack the critical shear stud NCSTAR1-9:352 “No thermal Expansion or material degradation was considered for the concrete slab, as the slab was not heated in this analysis. Author - rogermorris http://wemustknow.net/2012/04/we-are-all-conspiracy-theorists-now-the-mainstreaming-of-911-truth/

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shill stalker March 23, 2012 8:41 pm (Pacific time)

as evidenced by his inordinate amount of official spin regurgitation, ( a quick google for albury smith 911 will show a history of his commenting on every blog concerning 911, posting the same lies, distortions and obfuscations ad nauseam, 24/7 ) this shows that he is either paid to do this or has severe mental disabilities, as pointed out by most everyone who has the misfortune to have ever crossed paths with the unflushable turd, and is as obvious as is the explosive destruction of the 3 towers that day.

the only people who would argue against a transparent, unfettered independent investigation into the events of 911 are those with a vested interest in supressing the truth.

frankly, to hope that albury would voluntarily disclose such things as his real name and qualifications, to add just the slightest credence to anything he says, is as likely as there will ever be credible proof beyond all reasonable doubt that bin laden was killed in may of 2011.

ie; NONE

there is irefutable evidence that the events of 911 did not happen as we are being told,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazdG3-ZETM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iND-b8Q3jc

but despite that, and despite not being asked, albury will continue to offer his unqualified, anonymous opinion, as if he is the final arbiter of truth, in relation to ANYTHING to do with 911. a self proclaimed expert..

its so pathetic, if it wasnt for the fact that on the backs of the lies of that fateful day, hundreds of thousands of innocent men women and children have been killed, civil and constitutional rights have been shredded, and the world has been subjected to a never ending war of terror, it would be funny.


This video puts to rest ALL of alburys arguments and shows exactly why 911 needs a proper investigation.
Professor Daniele Ganser (Switzerland) - 10 Years After 9/11 The Official Account Does Not Add Up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fUT7XgLiTY

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allblurry snit November 3, 2011 1:01 am (Pacific time)

911 official story proven to be a lie here http://www.show-the-house.com/id107.html

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Albury Smith September 18, 2011 6:17 am (Pacific time)

Gee, I hope you'll get us some taped interviews with all of the "living" hijackers; you'll make a fortune selling them to the media. You just added the CBOE, SEC, and NORAD to the "conspiracy," but what are a few more among all of the thousands? No standby fighter was "pulled out of" the NYC/DC area on 9/11, and all 4 of them were armed and ready. The 2 F-15s from Otis took off just as AA 11 hit the North Tower, and did not have time to stop UA 175, nor did they have a shoot-down order at that point. I'd suggest reading Touching History, by Lynn Spencer, if you're at all interested in the facts concerning our military response to the first suicide hijackings in US history. It might also be a good idea to watch tower collapse videos and look at the floor plans of the cores above the 78th floor sky lobbies, as well as elevator diagrams. There were only 3 express elevators in the top zone, and a handful of local ones, and few of them were even near a core column. Of the columns even remotely accessible from working elevator shafts, some were severed by planes, and some were badly damaged, so explosives were either redundant or would have been knocked off at impact. The cores didn't collapse first or the towers would have imploded instead of ejecting debris outward, and ~40 stories of core framing still stood for 15 or more seconds after each collapse ended, so it's pretty obvious that your "theory" needs some work. If all of these columns were cut by explosives, why was no evidence of it found in the debris? Do cutter charge signatures look like factory ends with plates and bolt holes, or like mechanical breaks? Let's just add ~40,000 different people who were at GZ at one time or another for ~8 months to the "conspiracy" too, along with the SEC, CBOE, NORAD, NIST, the FDNY, NYPD, FBI, FEMA, Larry Silverstein, Bugs Bunny, GeeDubya, two major US airlines, Wile E. Coyote, etc., since not one of them reported a suspicious-looking end on a column or other piece of structural steel.

Editor: You're a tireless little machine aren't you Albury?  I know there are endless resources to finance your campaign, of course... but to be on your knees pounding your fist into the ground trying to convince people that even a fraction of the IMPOSSIBLE government version of the story is true, is a waste of time.  Nobody believes it, they know they were had, they just lack the specifics and my team and I, including Anthony Lawson and Anthony Hall, are war ahead of the curve.  We have laid out precisely on multiple occasions the long list of problems that the Bush version would need to mysteriously have taken place.  Are you suggesting that Bush is a magician?  If not, I have no idea how or why you would think your junk science and that of the overpaid lackies and cronies, holds any water.  

In conclusion, I searched the name 'Albury Smith' and the only thing the name is associated with is trolling for 911 stories online. 

Mike Zimmer with MWC News - Media with Conscience wrote:

If you Google Albury Smith 9/11 you will see an interesting pattern of postings. Albury is a very ambitious poster, with, at the least, an idée fixe. A lot of us who pay attention to 9/11 have our own ideas on his motivation.

By the way, it is pointless to attempt to counter his disinformation with fact if you are hoping to persuade him of anything - many scores have tried. However, you may wish to alert other readers to his vacuous views. I expect him to come back and respond on this on this, if he is still running true to form. I won't bother with a reply, I have better things to do".

 So I think we now know what we need to know about this poster, his role in the world is not unexpected, however those of us who evaluate, approve and disapprove comments with real living people, at least have the ability to reduce the effectiveness of his propaganda here.  As Mike says above, the individual has no interest in the truth, and therefore we have no interest in carrying any more words from the individual. 

 

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Albury Smith September 17, 2011 3:42 pm (Pacific time)

Orio Palmer, an FDNY firefighter, reached the lowest of the upper South Tower floors which had fires, and radioed from an emergency stairwell on 78, a sky lobby floor with much fewer combustibles than any office area. Those fires and fatalities were the result of local elevator cars, jet fuel, and flaming debris hitting landings there and blowing off elevator doors, and it happened on the 44th (sky lobby) and in the lower levels too. The impact was at floor 81, and the main fires were on and above the 80th. Can you guys get any more dishonest? 236 of the 283 columns in each tower were in plain sight, and secretly blowing them up would have been completely impossible except in your imagination. Hani Hanjour couldn't do a triple toe loop/triple Salchow either, but he trained in Boeing cockpit simulators and received a commercial pilot certificate from the FAA in April, 1999, so he had a really odd hobby, since he wasn't working as a pilot. He could and did steer a Boeing wide-bodied twin in perfect weather conditions into a huge target. Be sure to tell American Airlines that their 757 "really" didn't crash there, because I'm not interested in indulging "no-plane" insanity. http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary You'd deny involvement too if you were in the open and the US military wanted you dead or alive, and bin Laden did it once in the week after the attacks. He bragged about it frequently after he reached what he thought was safety in Pakistan, and I know of no one except your "truth movement" that's clueless enough to think that he wasn't behind 9/11, the 2 US embassy bombings, and the Cole attack, all of which were suicide terrorist attacks. Who claimed that the SEALs got the wrong guy on May 2, 2011? Pakistan? Saudi Arabia? His family? Al-Zawahiri's family? Any of the world's media? Must be great being smarter than everyone, huh?

Editor: Mr. bin Laden bragged frequently?  Where is your proof of this?  Don't tell me, 'Bush said he did" right?  There are such terrible stories so profoundly clear that explain how the buildings had strange people in the elevator shafts for weeks prior to 9/11.  There were the full building closures that were never explained, yet explain so much in retrospect.  It must be interesting to try to push this crap on a gullible and patriotic public, that is what you exploit and rely on.  There was never a threat from the Middle east, it is the Middle east that is threatened eternally by the west.  Name a single modern conflict where a Mid east country damaged a western nation, name it... come on.  I know, there aren't any. 

There was a dirty push to take Iran's president out in '53 and that was a CIA/SAS maneuver.  That was strictly to ensure the 'Anglo Iranian Oil Company' (BP Today) would be able to keep ripping off the Iranians.  Then the puppet string 'Shah' was installed by the west and by 1979, the people of Iran were sick of being screwed by the west over oil, and then we had the onset of the Islamic Revolution.  The Soviets denied the Afghans the right to worship under the Communist system, the west controlled the purse strings of Iran, and the people grew tired of it.  Even then, it wasn't about the USA.   When the Iranians kidnapped Americans it was because they were sick of us dominating their country.  They let the Black guy and women go, saying "you have enough problems in the USA" and they never killed anyone.  Then, the USA financed the Iraqi invasion of Iran, all over the stupid hostage crisis.  Funny, payback is a bitch isn't it? 

I can go to the very root of the problems we are experiencing and the problem is western domination, murder of human beings, and a strong desire to control and rip off the darker skin people.  I wish it wasn't so simple.  There has never been a desire or a capability of any country in the Middle east to hurt the US and if these 'terrorists' were who you say they are, they would start forest fires, they would plant bombs, terrorize people; but alas there are only a handful of media inspired terrorists in all of history here and half of those we do hear about were set up by the FBI and tricked into doing the terrorism because t he fucking FBI agents tell them it is their religions duty, not the iman's.  And on that note, I'm not saying there aren't tons of problematic people from the Middle east, but those that are truly contrary to our beliefs are the Wahhabists, and they are the allies of the United States in Saudi Arabia, which strips the Bush argument from all validity anyway.

 The terrorists who attacked this country on 11 Sept. 2011 are not who the government describes, most of those men aren't even dead today.  Those reading this, the single best thing you can watch is 'Loose Change' and pay particular attention to how no USAF planes responded on 9/11.  They had all been pulled out of the area prior to the event.  The US capitol city was totally defenseless on 9/11 so we should be glad something worse did not take place.  Also note the smoking gun on this and those are the 'put options' on the affected airlines..

Truth is we aren't even scratching the surface of the vast inconsistencies that took place on that day, and this comment guy with his back to the wall "the government is not lying" thing is silly.     

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Douglas Benson September 17, 2011 8:26 am (Pacific time)

I dont care if terrorists fly ten planes into buildings ,ITS NOT WORTH GIVING UP OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS FOR IMAGINED SECURITY. EVER!

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Albury Smith September 17, 2011 5:36 am (Pacific time)

"No-planers" are the bottom of the "truth movement" barrel, and I'm addressing one who's never read the NIST reports either. Jet fuel and office fires don't melt steel, and no NIST collapse hypothesis involves the melting of steel, so you've just posted a straw man. There is a "way" that ~9000 gallons of flaming fuel will start fires like this:

http://www.debunking911.com/Fire.jpg

and steel loses more than 80% of its yield strength in temperatures very common in normal office fires. The hypothetical plane crash you're referring to was actually of a heavier 707, not a 727, but was certainly not at 440 or 540 mph with enough fuel for a transcontinental flight. 707s and 767s are reasonably comparable in mass, but planes lost in fog or battling other weather conditions are not going to impart the KE that the hijacked airliners did. 236 of the 283 columns in each tower were in plain sight, and it takes a real stretch of the imagination to see any signs of your fireproof explosives on them. Do you even have a perp and plausible motive for this malarkey?

Editor: The NY firefighters relayed via radio that the fire was nearly out when the first building imploded and fell to the ground.  Numerous credible witnesses felt the blasts, they are even on video.  Also, it is well documented that the alleged 'terrorists' were totally incapable of flying these aircraft so precisely.  In the case of the Pentagon, alleged terrorist pilot Hani Hanjou, who was deemed a very poor pilot by his instructor in Florida, could never have made Flight 77 do what it allegedly did.  So, the 'no-planers' in regard to NY are a joke, trying to cause a futile distraction and relying on fellow academia to follow suit out of respect, which is also comical.  However what hit the Pentagon was almost certainly not an airplane at all and not a 757.  BTW, I have a friend who scraps these planes in Asia and he says what would he required to melt the titanium engine casings is a temperature far in excess of any fires on the ground.  You have to love that little 16 foot hole that was punched through the walls also, it is amazing that anyone would believe a 757 struck it.  You ask if I have a perp, that is one of the fast reactions, and to state that a scenario is impossible, is not to claim some Sherlock Holmes capability with billion dollar clandestine plans.  No, I can't say who did it, but I can follow the money trail to Blackwater and Haliburton and a list like that and see the outcome.      

Bin Laden denied it ONCE in a September 17, 2001 tape, and most of us would deny it a lot more than that in the following decade if we were being hunted by the US military, as would our relatives and colleagues, if they had the access to the media that Osama bin Laden's did. We also weren't in any mood to beg the Taliban, which had been harboring the slug since he left Sudan in 1996, to turn him over. He gave us 9/11 to get us into Afghanistan, and was disappointed that the embassy bombings and Cole attack hadn't done it sooner, so I don't think we needed another invitation. These are not denials:

Editor: If only you were right, things would be so much simpler and easier to accept.  The point is that bin Laden denied it, and Bush denied that in the context he represented the matter in.  Bush never once said, "bin Laden denied this act" did he?  Remind me if he did, but I don't believe it happened.  I also don't think it is hard for an obviously intelligent person like yourself to have your own doubts Albury, you just have to allow yourself to indulge them.  I would rather not have to discuss any of this, but I believe we were had and the intention was to start the current wars and that Bush believed it would be a financially 'profitable' venture and for many it has been.  Of course the world itself is damned screwed because of the actions of the USA, but you know, we only live for a little while anyway right?  I believe without any question that bin Laden was killed during the insane cave attacks at Tora Bora in '91.  That allowed him to rise from the ashes as the man you describe him to be, one that he never was, what a sham.    

http://www.mideastweb.org/osamabinladen2.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qloshSGAJ1s

http://ee.1asphost.com/raehatualmisk/19.html

and the only ones denying that we got the right guy on May 2 are in your "truth movement," not in any major media worldwide. Al Qaeda didn't deny it either, and responded with threats of more attacks. Guess they don't need you to defend them, huh?

 Editor: By 'al Qaeda' do you mean the group set up by the spooks to fund the Mujahideen war against the Soviet Union during the Afghan Civil War?  That is where that name came from.  Who is their leader by the way?  What... you can't name a leader?  I suppose that is because fictional groups created by western politicians and their media stooges are hard to sell.  Taliban- I've been too close to those guys, standing right on an ANA base with soldiers pointing to guys in black turbans who are actually on the base taking care of some kind of business.  Taliban are serious religious extremist fighters who were going at this thing before 9/11 and on that note, we were circulating petitions back in the late 90's trying to get people not to buy Union 76 gas because they were paying for the Taliban oil pipeline, the Taliban, the guys who visited George W. Bush in Texas when he was the governor.    

btw, still waiting for even one substantive response to anything I said in my first post about Box Boy's absurdities.

Editor: I'm not here to follow your lead and suppositions, I'm on the page I'm on with this and you, you are reading the wrong book entirely.  Talk to me about the Popular Mechanics article Mr. Debunker, tell me about that official first round of truth debunking that failed miserably, went down in flames.  

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Albury Smith September 16, 2011 5:49 pm (Pacific time)

While you're "loking" for the truth, Anon, please feel free to explain why Richard Gage's crap is nowhere to be found on the ASCE or AIA web sites, and there are numerous articles and discussions of the NIST findings and recommendations on the ASCE site.
You've already rejected the qualifications of these people:
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/team_members.cfm
and they're as good as it gets, so why would mine matter? Yours are obvious from the fact that you believe charlatans and crackpots like Gage and his "engineers." What lunacy...

Editor: OK Albury, you have to be insulting so here we go.  You are a government stooge, do you think you deserve some acclaim for that you sheep?  Only an idiot would believe anything you claim to be true.  Try looking up a few basic things, I have gone down this road for years and years.  There is no possible way the planes could have started a fire that would have brought those buildings down, it has never happened in history and many buildings have burned far worse.  Any person who has actually studied this issue knows those buildings were specifically designed to withstand a direct hit from a 727, ever read that part?  Now, jet fuel (and I spent a three year enlistment in the Marines refueling fighter jets and helicopters, far more than most individuals with a dog in this fight, only burns at a small fraction of the temperature required to melt steel, let alone buildings designed with a center core the way the Trade Towers were.  Those buildings were imploded, it is fully corroborated, and all of your government suits combined can not do anything about this.  

Moreover, the fact that bin Laden was the named culprit when he specifically denied involvement and that is not per me, that is per CNN and every other news group in the world.  It was an official statement.  Then the Taliban offered to turn him over, also per all major media, and Bush had no interest, and that is because bin Laden had absolutely nothing to do with this madness.  He was dying of kidney failure in 2001, there is no way he made it past the cave bombings at Tora Bora, and I have been to Afghanistan, I have been in bin Laden's camp that he used as a base to fight the Russians from.  So you have jack squat to say, all of the 'official government version' is a load of absolute sickening disgusting crap and the shills and trolls like you are ridiculous.  

My favorite part is the Pentagon, the infamous Popular Mechanics article, where one govt suit 'spokesman' says there is no wreckage because the plane "turned into something like water' on impact, which is malarkey, and then in the same article, another official bush 'suit' says he 'held parts of the crews body arts and uniforms in his hands'.  Now, that is a hell of a thing, that one guy says the plane melted, and the other says he was walking around picking up body parts, they are full of horse shit and so is anyone who believes anything to do with the 'official' version.  People are simple minded all too often, unable to see past the fog.   

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Anonymous September 16, 2011 9:30 am (Pacific time)

Albury Smith..what is your engineering and architectural background? AE911truth has thousands of architect and engineers with PHD's etc. It is not Richard Gage, it is thousands of architects and engineers from all over the world. There is also Pilots for 911 truth. The list goes on and on and on. I checked your links, and every one of them either is old, (NIST CHANGED their wording on building 7, because of AE911 truth exposed them) or your links are not verifiable etc. The true evidence FAR outweighs these useless links you sent. Editor: dont even bother trying to explain. Millions are finding the truth and the numbers are growing. Albury is a dieing breed. Everyone knows Albury is a schill, or one of those "our government would never allow something like this" people. You cannot convince them, dont waste your time on these people. There are MANY actually loking for truth, you will reach those people and that is what counts. Not the few diehards, forget about them. Their job is to distract. And it worked, because I just spent 15 minutes going thru the worthless links he sent. Dont fall for it.

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Albury Smith September 15, 2011 3:30 pm (Pacific time)

I didn't see a rebuttal of anything I stated, or an answer to any question I asked. I'm gratified to see that you posted it, however.
How much do you get paid to support junk science and nonsense?

Editor: Albury, that is a fair request, I will try to walk through this later.  We are fairly open to those who disagree with us, just so long as we keep it above the board, we can use this comment section to debate points.

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Albury Smith September 15, 2011 2:43 pm (Pacific time)

I think it's time to investigate some of the bizarre and absurd claims made by Richard Gage, not the three WTC hi-rise collapses on 9/11, since they've already been thoroughly investigated by much more qualified, competent, and honest people. The NIST scientists and engineers were only able to time the top 18 stories, or 242', of the collapse of WTC 7's facade, and determined that it took 5.4 seconds, yet Gage and others in the 9/11 "truth movement" claim that the entire 610' collapse only took ~6.5 seconds. Did the other 368' fall in just over 1 second? How is he even able to give us a time to the nearest 1/10 of a second for the entire collapse when NIST couldn't because buildings in the foreground blocked the view of video cameras?
How can he claim that the towers nearly free fell when the loose, airborne debris from their upper stories was obviously falling much faster than the collapse zones, and began hitting the ground while at least 40 stories in each one were still intact? The North Tower was only down to the height of WTC 7 when debris from the upper stories first hit the ground. Was g miraculously increased on 9/11? They fell in ~15 and ~22 seconds respectively, nowhere near the ~9.25 seconds that free fall would have taken:

http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/40/qLShZOvxVe4

yet he begins every presentation with his near free-fall claim. He's also claimed that the dust clouds from the collapses were "pyroclastic," but there are no reports of anyone's skin being instantly peeled off, and he's claimed that the fires in WTC 7 were minor, totally contradicting these NYC eyewitnesses:

http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/accountsofwtc7damage
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/eyewitnessaccountsofthewithdrawalfromwtc

How could his claim that 400,000 yards of concrete were turned to fine powder be true, when there was less than 100,000 yards of concrete above grade in both towers combined? Does he know how to turn 400,000 yards of concrete to fine powder with explosives without leveling NYC?
Has he ever seen a controlled demolition that left molten metal in the debris for months? Has he ever seen one that didn't leave even one explosively-cut column in the debris? Since he claims that explosives were planted in the core columns to start the collapses, and that it was done from elevator shafts, has he even looked a floor plan of the cores above the 78th floor sky lobby? There were only 6 regular elevators above there, plus a freight and 2 express elevators, and they were only near 6 of the 47 core columns. Several of those were in the paths of the planes, and the perimeter columns collapsed first, so he's not even making sense, especially considering the fact that 30 or more stories of core framing stood 15-25 seconds after each tower's main collapse was over.
We should investigate the nonsense coming from Richard Gage, as well as his "engineers."

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3834688andpostcount=12

Editor: How much do you get paid to write this stuff and who is it that cuts the check?  Just know this, we KNOW the Bush administration constructed the story, I just like to know who out there is actually able to believe such a non-scientific claim as put forth by the so-called investigators.  We can really open this up Albury Smith, you are definitely a day late and a dollar short.

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Matt Johnson September 15, 2011 1:35 am (Pacific time)

Go to the source, you can never lose. Those airport white shirts are all real people capable of ingesting truth, and adding information to the deal by providing written background is a fantastic idea, because if there is one group that needs to pass time, and needs good reading material, well you get the point. Nice report Mr. King.

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