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Ley September 23, 2012 10:34 am (Pacific time)

Some money quotes from Zizek a man who can hadrly be described as doctrinaire"However, 15,000 have already been fully approved, and 20,000 of the proposed housing units lie in settlements that Israel cannot expect to retain in any future peace deal with the Palestinians.The conclusion is obvious: while paying lip-service to the two-state solution, Israel is busy creating a situation on the ground that will render such a solution impossible. The dream underlying Israel's plans is encapsulated by a wall that separates a settler's town from the Palestinian town on a nearby West Bank hill. The Israeli side of the wall is painted with the image of the countryside beyond the wall – but without the Palestinian town, depicting just nature, grass and trees. Is this not ethnic cleansing at its purest, imagining the outside beyond the wall as empty, virginal and waiting to be settled?When peace-loving Israeli liberals present their conflict with Palestinians in neutral, symmetrical terms – admitting that there are extremists on both sides who reject peace – one should ask a simple question: what goes on in the Middle East when nothing is happening there at the direct politico-military level (ie, when there are no tensions, attacks or negotiations)? What goes on is the slow work of taking the land from the Palestinians on the West Bank: the gradual strangling of the Palestinian economy, the parcelling up of their land, the building of new settlements, the pressure on Palestinian farmers to make them abandon their land (which goes from crop-burning and religious desecration to targeted killings) – all this supported by a Kafkaesque network of legal regulations."Zizeks gets us back, thankfully, to what by now should be painfully obvious. It is the dispossesion of the Palestinians and the occupation which is, in fact, the root of the ongoing conflict something which is articulated too by Combatants for Peace, described by you as the real anti war movement, when they join with Palestinian villagers protesting the slicing up and theft of Palestinians land. Can Slavo get an aye for you Terry?

Israjew September 11, 2012 2:47 am (Pacific time)

The person who wrote this article is a jackass.
Yes, Gilad... you should know all about Jews running the world banks, being a Jew yourself. You probably foment the popular belief that we drink the blood of Christian baby's and use Arab blood in our Hamantashin. Yes, we are all "tribal" vampires and anyone who disagrees with your warped sense of reality must be sucking up to the "tribe".
You are a disgusting excuse for a human being.

Editor: People who are so obscene in their notes are defenders of actions and behaviors that can't be defended.

Alexander September 10, 2012 11:31 pm (Pacific time)

Sorry I posted twice, didn't think the first time went through.

Heard of Deir Yassin (correct spelling) but there is no "Museum of Jewish Tolerance" there. You are saying that this is a sarcastic reference to Yad Vashem, which (a) is surely such subtle sarcasm as to mislead most readers and (b) underscores my point about the writer's black-and-white over-simplification and own intolerance. There is indeed some irony that Yad Vashem is near Deir Yassin, but the world is full of ironies isn't it? Some of them gross and some of them sad. America, the Land of the Free, was partly built with slave labor and the conquest of other, previously-free peoples. How many BSDites in Salem rallying for Kalapuya land and resource rights? Thought so.

Editor: Yeah well at least we abolished slavery, light years ahead of you guys on that. The thing is that Gilad is the one with tolerance, you are missing what the whole thing is about. Equal rights for equal people Alexander, surely deep in your heart you must agree.

Alexander September 10, 2012 10:51 pm (Pacific time)

"Museum of Jewish Tolerance"...? Gilad, there is no such thing, and your use of the fake museum to create false and disingenuous irony makes you sound like the one who needs a visit to such a museum. As someone with roots in the Land of Israel, you of all people should know how complex the situation is there, but you cavalierly (and sarcastically) jump on the facile BSD bandwagon ... why? Self-hating Jew? Is that why you've run about as far away from the holyland as you can?

Editor: I think he is referring to the museum that is opposite from Dier Yassin, ever heard of the place?

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