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NFL Snubs Notion of Limbaugh Ownership

"The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it" - Rush Limbaugh

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(SALEM, Ore.) - With quotes like the one above, it isn't hard to imagine why the NFL is down in the mouth over Rush Limbaugh's idea to purchase the St. Louis Rams.

The idea hit the wall Tuesday when Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay vowed to vote against Limbaugh. Commissioner Roger Goodell echoed similar thoughts, noting that the conservative commentator's "divisive" comments are not something any NFL insiders would tolerate.

FOX News quoted Irsay saying, "I, myself, couldn't even consider voting for him."

"When there are comments that have been made that are inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive ... our words do damage, and it's something that we don't need."

I have never thought of professional sports as the hall of liberalism, a word Limbaugh uses to describe a broad section of Americans who disagree with his hard right politics. In fact a lot of serious sports fans I've known are rather apolitical and more worried about who is winning the next game than the next election. So why would this talk show political agitator bug the NFL guys so much?

There are plenty of Limbaugh fans who will tell you he's really "not as bad as so many people think" and they try to explain him as, if nothing else, "a really patriotic guy".

Personally, I do not believe that blindly rooting for unprovoked war equates to patriotism. I believe people who serve their country in uniform are an expression of patriotism by the sheer virtue of serving, but I don't see any uniform on Rush Limbaugh.

For his part, Limbaugh is clearly disappointed, and this member of the media faults "the media" which is quite interesting. As we all know the terminology is powerful, "The Media" sounds sinister when Limbaugh and his like say it, but in reality it is one of the largest examples of the precious and hard-earned American freedom that we all talk about so frequently.

I thought, to be fair, I'd hold my nose, so to speak, and open the Rush Limbaugh Website, rushlimbaugh.com, to see what the iconic far right spokesman had to say about the matter, so we could get information right out of the horse's mouth.

Well... the first thing I noticed was this terrible advertisement urging me to buy gold that hovered in front of my cursor, blocking the information on the actual Website. That is just about what I would expect, and that invasive awful force you to look at it advertising approach, which you will never ever see on Salem-News.com, completely typifies what this guy stands for.

I moved the mouse around and was able to read this headline about the NFL's position on Limbaugh, "State-run media scum smear Rush using fabricated quotes" which also seemed about right, that he would blame his well-earned hatred on a left-wing media plot. Sorry, but what a joke. Also, what is this about "state-run media"? Is PBS after him too? I don't know, his Website looks more like a damned pawn shop than a media information center, and I wouldn't dream of clicking on anything there, it is probably virus-ridden based on their ad platform, gross!

If legal repercussions existed for "The Media" when they air false information, Rush Limbaugh would be rotting in prison. I wonder if there has ever been a time when this guy was caught with his pants down, that he didn't lash out and blame reporters and news organizations for simply telling people about it.

Then I went back to his site and read this headline, "Obama wants Americans at each other's throats" and it occurred to me that if this king of hypocrites was Pinocchio, his nose would probably span the Atlantic by now.

This is a high time for the NFL in the opinion of many, proving that sports may be All-American, but divisive and polarizing politics that bash the poor are not.

It takes the approval of 24 of the League's 32 teams to become an owner.

Irsay is the first NFL rep to clearly state that he will reject a person who made a habit of "demonizing individuals." He also told FOX, "I met Rush only once. He seemed like a nice guy to me and all those kind of things." Then he added, "It's bigger than the NFL. As a nation, and as a world, we've got to watch our words and our thoughts. They can do damage."

For all things that are wrong in the world, every now and then, something inexplicably right takes place. This guy makes Americans hate one another, he doesn't seem very fond of minorities and he's hard on women who stand up for their rights, as well as being a constant enemy of the poor.

Whether he is practicing or not, Rush Limbaugh is a known drug addict. He travels to locations in the world that are often frequented by western men with bad intentions, and he frames his image around clouds of nasty stinky cigar smoke. That is no match for athletes and sports fans, in fact it goes completely against the grain.

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"Skipper" Osborne October 24, 2009 9:45 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel: You are right on target on this one, you are right! Thanks


Daniel October 21, 2009 10:43 pm (Pacific time)

Hay man you may look like a brother but your really the white mans puppet on the inside , to me thats whats oreo means . Not the 50s do wop group . To me the word Uncle Tom congers up images of a totally subservient yea boss I's a coming step and fetch it . You think calling someone conniving is more vile ? I might also add I had more than a few terse names for both Powell and condi when they went along with Bush policy , and that embarrassing UN speech , we really are not that far on this , only a matter of semantics . I think we both have more important thing to move forward on . Thanks for your prospective .


"Skipper" Osborne October 21, 2009 9:23 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel: No I would have to be pushed to call General Powell an oreo. I would have to be in a long conversation with him, and if I felt he was missing the plight of African Americans, I would still respectfully call him an oreo. I agree with you that the names you used were vile, but I disgree with you that oreo, Uncle Tom etc., are on ARE NOT ON PAR. Thanks


Daniel October 21, 2009 8:39 pm (Pacific time)

Ano- you keep changing your name, never respond to questions and agree with yourself with different ID's. You have absolutely no credibility so I will not respond to your race batting BS.


Anonymous October 21, 2009 5:54 pm (Pacific time)

I went to the FBI sourced link that the "Linked" poster provided. Nothing made up about that. You see a homicide rate for approx. 30 years that is pretty darned consistent. Murder is for real, there is no debate or second guessing for the victim. I have seen numerous polls over the years that show a significant difference on how blacks and whites assess different issues. I also saw this frequently in the military among enlisted personnel, but rarely among officers nor senior NCO's above E-7. If time allows I will see if I can find some sources that demonstrate these polorized viewpoints, but for some that would obviously be a waste of time.


Daniel October 21, 2009 3:44 pm (Pacific time)

Linked- as I recall Jackson was rebuked for his remark and was pretty much invisible during the remainder of the election cycle, his remark was caught on camera, and was not intended as a public statement as you infer. Linked, tell me what magic hat you pulled your scientific data about 90% vs 10%? Hmm a student of sociology and you compiled these numbers from watching the OJ trial??? Now thats real science! Was your source the late Dominic Dunn? Did you go to the glen Beck correspondence school of sociology? Your rant reminded me of an old twilight zone about a malicious crank caller who shrinks real small like his brain and his parrot eats him. Rod had a way of seeing the future. When caucasians speak negatively about other caucasians they usually attack other nationalities. Such as all the negative names people use for the polish, Italian, Russian, French, etc etc calling them a typical dumb this-greasy that-cheap so and so, drunken, lazy. Yes all of these terms can be very offensive according to the manor in which they are used. I might also add my personal observation is your observations seem very racist and one-sided.


Linked October 21, 2009 1:23 pm (Pacific time)

As a lifetime student of sociology I found it amusing when a poster used Skipper Osborne's own words about how using the phrase "typical black person" would relate to the use of other races in the same phrase as being racist, then showing how Obama did it several times. I don't see how slavery applies here. Whites were enslaved for thousands of years and rose up and literally stopped this horrible process. It is still going on big time in Africa and other places around the world. Was it racist when Jesse Jackson said he wanted to castrate Obama (on video), or when Bill Cosby said blacks needed to get off their backside and take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the white man? If you recall Cosby was castigated for making those comments, but not Jackson. If you really want to see a pattern of behavior that shows a couple of generations of behavior, not just sociological subjective inferences, go to the below FBI link and see an objectively constructed pattern that even maintains itself throughout the socio-economic spectrum. It became quite evident during the OJ murder trial that blacks and whites view many cultural issues just the opposite, and 90% to 10% opposite is pretty much the norm. I would not call this racist, it is what it is, but when violence is such an extreme reality, then in time it won't make any difference on how we have such different perspectives. Cosby had it right in his above reference. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/oracetab.htm


Daniel October 20, 2009 9:30 pm (Pacific time)

skipper I never implied there was not vast discrimination , I am quite familiar with this sad and tragic history . I was responding to your statement that Blacks were not allowed to go to public school till 1954 . This statement gives the impression that ALL Blacks in America did not have adequate education till after 1954 , this is not true . My point is there have been many highly educated AA in the USA from before the time of the civil war to today . Doctors , lawyers , educators are all part of the African American heritage . Your blanket statement gives the impression to those who have never had extensive dealing with AA that all older AA never had a good education and therefore are academically inferior to whites , I am sure this was not your intension . You have totally misunderstood my point ! Skip the vile names I used as an example of labeling people are on par with uncle tom and oreo, both those names are quite personal and very offensive and could expand to fisticuffs for some . I mean really if you were introduced to General Powell would you address him as uncle Tom or General Oreo . Skipper I stand by NOT labeling people thanks .


"Skipper"Osborne October 20, 2009 8:32 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel, Daniel, Daniel: You disappointed me man. In the Syllabus of SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, Brown v. Board of Education, 347 U.S. 483 (1954) (USSC+), 347 U.S. 483, Argued December 9, 1952, Reargued December 8, 1953, Decided May 17, 1954, APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF KANSAS. Here is the last two paragraphs written by then Chief Justice Warren: Because these are class actions, because of the wide applicability of this decision, and because of the great variety of local conditions, the formulation of decrees in these cases presents problems of considerable complexity. On reargument, the consideration of appropriate relief was necessarily subordinated to the primary question -- the constitutionality of segregation in public education. We have now announced that such segregation is a denial of the equal protection of the laws. In order that we may have the full assistance of the parties in formulating decrees, the cases will be restored to the docket, and the parties are requested to present further argument on Questions 4 and 5 previously propounded by the Court for the reargument this Term The Attorney General of the United States is again invited to participate. The Attorneys General of the states requiring or permitting segregation in public education will also be permitted to appear as amici curiae upon request to do so by September 15, 1954, and submission of briefs by October 1, 1954. It is so ordered. * Together with No. 2, Briggs et al. v. Elliott et al., on appeal from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of South Carolina, argued December 9-10, 1952, reargued December 7-8, 1953; No. 4, Davis et al. v. County School Board of Prince Edward County, Virginia, et al. , on appeal from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, argued December 10, 1952, reargued December 7-8, 1953, and No. 10, Gebhart et al. v. Belton et al., on certiorari to the Supreme Court of Delaware, argued December 11, 1952, reargued December 9, 1953: THEREFORE DANIEL, IF BLACKS HAD EQUAL ACCESS TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THEN WHY DID THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT 'MAKE THIS CASE UP?' WHO IS MAKING ALL BLACKS OVER 60 LOOK UNEDUCATED? YOU, MY FRIEND. Daniel please pay close attention to the 1954 dates. Also Daniel, I refered to the people using their NATIONALITIES, you used thier DEROGATORY NAMES, I did not do that, it is unacceptable to me. The names that I refered to my African American conservaties, are the names that are not, 'deragatory': Whites can even say that to an African American and there will be no 'fitacuffs:" Whereas, the words you used could cause(more likely) a fight to insue, I stand by their labels. Thanks Daniel.


Daniel October 20, 2009 12:37 pm (Pacific time)

Skipper the bush administration was filled with many operatives from all races . I see no point in singling them out as the uncle tom , the conniving jew , the dirty dago etc etc . Vile name calling only separates people . Powells voice was moderate compared to Rumsfield , who I do not call a nazi . I have never heard President Obama use vile names to describe his opponents , he strives to be a uniter because he represents all U.S. americans . Your statement about blacks not being able to attend public school until 1954 is not totally true and makes all blacks over 60 look uneducated . What is true is in parts of the deep south they had separate and often very inferior public education for people of color . The schools I went to in New York in the 50s were integrated and had a superior standard to most all white schools in the south or here in Oregon . You may be giving some people the erroneous impression all black people in America were uneducated in the 1950s . There were many highly educated AA in America in the 1950s and long before , as you well know . I also agree more than disagree with you on most all your postings thank you .


Chris Butler October 20, 2009 12:53 pm (Pacific time)

Skipper Osborne as you know life is a two-way street when it comes to pointing out differences. Below is an excerpt from US News and Report that points out a statement that reinforces your analysis regarding a "typical [race] person." After Obama got some heat for the below statement (go to link) he immediately attempted to offer another interpretation that failed to alter the primary reaction of most people. He also described (Pennsylvania) rural white people as "clinging to their religion, guns and who have antipathy towards immigrants." Pretty insulting racial stereotype don't you think? These statements were made around the time he gave his Philadelphia speech on race. What would have happened had Hillary Clinton, or any white person made a similar statement but referencing black people? I don't know if a person who calls anyone a "typical whatever" is a racist or not, but it appears some do and they seem to be quite unyielding in that conclusion, what say you? "Obama is drawing a new round of criticism for his comments on a Philadelphia radio sports program yesterday in which he said his grandmother is a "typical white person" who has fears about black men. He was attempting to explain a portion of his speech on race earlier this week—specifically, the statement that his white grandmother gets nervous when a black man approaches her on the street." Please note Jesse Jackson also made reference to his relief while walking one evening that the person behind him was not black but white.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/news-desk/2008/03/21/obama-typical-white-person-comment-delights-clinton-aides.html

Editor: The statement Obama made is true, what about that part of it?  You're funny, you are seriously reaching for straws on this one.  It doesn't matter if things were reversed, black people didn't own and enslave white people at any time in recent history.  We're talking just a few generations.  Obama's statements are not racist, but yours are by the virtue of what you discuss.  


"Skipper" Osborne October 19, 2009 11:25 pm (Pacific time)

Sam H: Racism is the exaggeration of inherent racial differences, and prejudice in favor of certain races. The wisecrack by Rush that referred to someone being a "typical black person." Limbaughs' statement fit the definition of a racist comment, I and the majority of African Americans view that as a racist comment. If I say 'a typical Jew,' 'a typical Italian,' a typical German' or 'a typical White.' Hell, what is 'typical?' In all the contexts that I have used 'a typical' in, they are 'subliminal messages of exaggeration of a race,' with negative inherent racial differnces with prejudice in favor of a certain race: and that certain race, is the race of the one, doing the talking. Thank you Sam.


"Skipper" Osborne October 19, 2009 10:59 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel: General Powell came along because he was getting a piece of the power and thought he would have a voice and influence; and he did not get totally what he wanted and 'after' he got out of office Gen. Powell had to make amends to the Black community . I did not denigrate the successful Afriacn Americans by calling them uncle toms and oreos, "they are" and they have done a disservice to the African American community and all of Americans because they did not take a stand for what was right for the people policy wise: they only wanted to serve their self intrests, power, money, and prestige . so why else would you be totally displeased with most of there actions under the President Bush administration? They are not honorable people in my book and a whold bunch of other folks books, irregardless of their conservative beliefs. They were Presidents' Bush and Vice. President Cheney puppets, and they did not bring moderate voices to an extreme administration; they helped create and carry out 'the extreme policies' of, and for 'an extreme administration.' I agree with a lot of what you have said in your other comments. Thank you.


"Skipper" Osborne October 19, 2009 10:37 pm (Pacific time)

Brother Conservative: I do believe that the President Regan,and the President Bushes' where the kings of wealth redistribution policies, why do you want to delude yourself? Are we to take you serious in the rest of your comments? How unobjective you are. My wife and I had the opportunity to go to the inauguration of President Obama. My relationship with Rev. Sharpton and Rev. Jackson is a little stronger than most people know; I sat at the table at one of the Official Inaugural Balls with Rev. Jackson, Rev. Sharpton, Mr. Joesph Lowry, Mr. Chris Tucker, Mr. Earl G. Graves Sr. and his wife. Seated at the table behind me was Archbishop Desmond Tutu. Why do I mentioned this, I know these individuals just a little more than most people, and believe me Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton have more important things to do than to pick on poor old Limbaugh. Brother Conservative, you stated 'As so-called black leaders they should be putting their time and effort in dealing with the human tragedies in the urban community: crime and failing schools... Why is not apparant to you that "REV. JACKSON OR REV. SHARPTON DID NOT CAUSE THE HUMAN TRAGEDIES IN THE URBAN COMMUNITIES OR THE CRIME AND FAILING SCHOOLS? WHITE BIGOTRY, RACISM AND YES, BLACK ON BLACK CRIME DID. Need I remind you on your school piece that Blacks were not allowed to go to public schools until 1954, and when they were Whites tried to keep them out. Then why was busing Black children to all White schools necessary? I answer that for you, there was not equal access to educational materials; remember "Separte is Not Equal, Brown v. Board of Education?' Now, who cause this malady Blacks or Whites? Brother Conservative you should be working with 'The left-wing jihad' to better America.


Daniel October 19, 2009 1:17 pm (Pacific time)

Jackson's lawyers were greatly helped by the fact Michael was totally innocent , as the total jury found ! It seems a crime this great chartable person was dragged thru the mud by a vindictive DA , and a greater crime that even tho found TOTALLY INNOCENT he still is viewed as guilty by the ignorant . Sam what was Rushes comment in reference to , about being a typical black person . Was he referring to musical talent or athletic prowess or something negative or criminal ?


Sam H October 19, 2009 12:49 pm (Pacific time)

Jackson was no doubt a great giver to charities and lawyers, and the latter were real good with juries, obviously much better than Roman Polanski's attorneys. To the poster Skip Osborne I heard Rush made a wisecrack that referred to someone being a "typical black person." Would you consider that racist? You know you hear people compared to others all the time but as an African American is that racist? Thanks. I'm curious how that is viewed by the black community for future reference.


Daniel October 18, 2009 6:58 pm (Pacific time)

Ano one more note about charity , Michael Jackson gave hundreds of millions to over 39 charities . Rush who makes over 25 million per year gives a few million , tax writeoff , to three . He also makes a big show of his contrubutions , unlike Jackson .


Me October 18, 2009 6:39 pm (Pacific time)

This comment was deleted and all future comments by this racist moron will be flushed also.  So Russ, all of your blathering that you wasted your time writing, isn't it kind of useless?  You're a nobody and we are consistently growing.  We are unique as it gets and we're gaining ground.  Your traditional conservative/racist views and raunchy shots at myself and others here must have taken a long time to write, with all of your glaring ignorance and hatefulness, I give you a year or two tops, then you are going to implode with frustration.  It's fun to think about, but the real truth is that you need help, bigtime.  We're the journalists, you're the pissed off peon.  Got that?


Daniel October 18, 2009 4:58 pm (Pacific time)

TIM and Bonnie you should have all posters log in and register ONE name . This will cut back on the hate-mongers , political operatives and malicious children and save you time screening out these bozos . One Name , real or not , and no anonymous or ever changing names .

Tim King: Daniel, I agree with you and it is coming, if you notice today the ads on the right are floating, nice work from Matt behind that.  We will get to the point where people use names, great advice, thanks!


Daniel October 18, 2009 3:34 pm (Pacific time)

Ano your statement about charity from the conservatives totally ignores the Bill Gates and. Warren Buffet MULTI BILLION DOLLAR fund . Both Bill and Warren are moderate to liberal in their politics . I think you may be spending too much time watching FOX news , please try to get your facts straight !


Daniel October 18, 2009 3:20 pm (Pacific time)

Ano its true I do not watch fox new often , I checked the google news links, out of 1224 links two were for a Fox affiliate in Louisiana , their story was slanted toward the JP and against the aclu . I checked the fox news site there was two stories both from the AP , nothing originating from fox news . Ano can you send me a link for the story that was written by FOX news , not just an AP reprint . Will Rush be covering the story ? You assume everyone who watches FOX agrees with its content , this may not be the case . This is a major story at cnn , foxes news site is dominated by balloon boy , and I do not refer to RUSH .


Daniel October 18, 2009 1:42 pm (Pacific time)

Russ you bring up a great point about voter intimidation , something that has been going on for years , sometimes using state police as in Florida . Its good you are addressing this problem , also the tax exempt status of all the conservative tele -preachers , who have been advising people on how to vote for years . You should also add the rigged diebold voting machines and the overly long voter wait times in poor democratic areas to the list .


Anonymous October 18, 2009 1:36 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel I heard about that Justice of Peace story while watching FOX News. So if you don't watch FOX how can you make that statement which is inaccurate? Never mind I know the answer. By the way the Fox News website also has a more detailed story on it. Maybe you should go research the demographics of just who watches FOX, you may be quite surprised. Also some of their top news people, check out what party their political donations go to. When I know someone is lieing to me or they fail to correct mistakes of significant news errors, or do not cover significant stories (I sample news sources all over the place!) then I'm gone as a viewer/reader.

Check out the story by Gene Lyons in Salon Oct 15 "Fox News isn't even pretending anymore" at http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/10/15/fox_news/ Daniel Johnson


Daniel October 18, 2009 1:18 pm (Pacific time)

Skipper altho I am mostly in agreement with you I have to take exception with you regarding Gen Powell and Condi Rice . You give way to much power to Bush as a slave master ! Was Powell used by Bush , yes , but the good General came along because he was getting a piece of the power and thought he would have a voice and influence . To denigrate successful AA by calling them uncle toms and oreos does a disservice to them and there supporters . To be sure I was totally displeased with most of there actions under the bush administration but I believe them to be honorable people with conservative beliefs , not Bush puppets . Both brought moderate voices to an extreme administration .


Brother Conservative October 18, 2009 9:31 am (Pacific time)

The left-wing jihad against Rush Limbaugh is un-fair and un-American. Rush is being targeted simply because he is a conservative and a leading critic of President Obama’s wealth redistribution policies.  With conservative blood in the water, it’s predictable to see the “race card duo” – Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton – circling the victim. Since the election of the first black president, they have been searching for some white meat to feed on and Rush just happens to be a juicy target. Whipping up unjustified black anger is their specialty. Frankly, I see their effort as “get whitie” – an inherent racist act. It’s outrageous that the “race card duo” are worried about Rush buying a football team following a graphic example of black on black gang violence in Chicago – Jackson’s home town. As so-called black leaders they should be putting their time and effort in dealing with the human tragedies in the urban community: crime and failing schools and not a conservative exercising his right to play in the free market. 

Editor: First of all, this is a commenter with zero integrity, an obviously profound racist who constantly uses different names.  We will not include your Web links, and seriously the only reason I approve your modified post is for entertainment purposes.  I am sorry that your life is dominated by bigotry, maybe it isn't your fault  People don't get to decide whether or not they will be born intelligent, and for you it just didn't work out.  I do suggest you go back to Fox because I don't plan to approve any more of your sad silly little comments.  Oh, and get a life, will you? 


Russ October 18, 2009 9:14 am (Pacific time)

Skipper are you saying that any black person who disagrees with say Jesse Jackson, Sharpton or any one on the left would be considered an Uncle Tom or a race traitor like the black personalities you mentioned below? Skipper I used that below statement about Limbaughs producer/sidekick as an example of the diversity of opinions found in all races. There is an abundant of empirical evidence that this is a fact of life. You could do some indepth research to verify that, but just looking at local, state or national election results makes it much easier to see the diversity. What is a concern Skipper, is when people threaten those who have different views, would you agree? Also when we have those organizations that are IRS registered as "tax free" entities, having them endorse and fund political candidates/activities is also illegal. Otherwise if they engage in that behavior as per the law they lose their tax free status and in some cases must pay a fine. You agree with that law? I have both black friends and black acquaintences and we agree and disagree on a wide variety of things ranging from the weather, sports, politics, movies, music, whatever, but I have never lebeled them in any negative way when their views are different than mine, I just assume that all rational intelligent people will come around and see that my views are always spot on correct.


Daniel October 18, 2009 7:25 am (Pacific time)

There is a news story about a Justice of the peace who refuses to marry an interracial couple . CBS , CNN, ABC , NBC all are carry the story , and hundreds of newspapers , fox news is not . Are we going to see RUSH explore this injustice , I think not . There is one fox affiliate in Louisiana with a short story trying to give the Justices view . Fox is not racist just as the Judge claims he is not racist , he lets people of color use the same bathroom as whites .


"Skipper" Osborne October 17, 2009 7:05 pm (Pacific time)

Russ...your statement 'I saw an interview with his producer/sidekick, a black man, and he called the accusations absurd.' Whoaaaa did my blood boil! A lot of Whites think that 'just because a Black person' is supportive of a conservative White that justifies the conservative every comment. Nothing can be further from the truth; these Blacks are considered the 'Uncle Toms,' Aunt Jemima's,' and 'Oreo's! And their voices are not well received or heard adhered to in the African American community: (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele, Limbaugh's producer/Black side kick, Gen. Collin Powell, Former Sec. of State Codolezza Rice, KEN BLACKWELL Gubernatorial Candidate,Ohio and LYNN SWANN NFL Hall of Famer Gubernatorial Candidate, Pennsylvania just to name a few, oh, one more term for them 'Step and Fetchit.'


"Skipper" Osborne October 17, 2009 6:34 pm (Pacific time)

Reluctant Hero...Hitler had over 30 million supporters, so sher numbers made 'his ideology truth?' Same goes for Limbaugh. You all will not prevail because the majority of your ideology is based on 'more lies,' 'scare tactics,' and 'misinformation.'


"Skipper" Osborne October 17, 2009 6:12 pm (Pacific time)

B Cooper...Are you telling us that just because Mr. Limbaugh did not do a video/ audio segment, that there is nothing on this planet 'written' that is subcribed to Limbaugh? You and others are kidding yourselves. 'Most people' will only do a video/audio that is only helpful and convenient for them, and their listeners. Of the Top 10 Racist Rush Limbaugh Quotes will you please show me the one/s that is/are lies? I agree with your statement 'Just because one criticise an individual and that person is of the opposite race, that does not make them a racist.' But for Limbaugh's continued "exaggeration of inherent racial differences, and his prejudice in favor of certain races" is the definition of "racism" and this is what Limbaugh has done and is continuing to do. The Rev. Jesse Jackson and his well known statements about "Hymies" and "Hymie Town" was definately a racial comment; but that does not make Rev. Jackson a racist. to my knowledge, Rev. Jackson has made only that 'one audio/video statemnt:' Not like Limbaugh who does it ofteeeeen!' In reference to the rapper Jay Z, who owns a piece of the New Jersey Nets and not just this rapper's hateful lyrics about white people, but what he said during the presidential swearing-in period last January of Obama, and the anti-white comments he made during the different ceremonial galas; I strongly disagree with him. I have approximately 1,200 CD's and rapper Jay Z is not one of them because of his racist ideological lyrics. This part of your message should be directed to the "White and Black masses" that support Jay Z, they are supporting him and perpetuating anti-White sentiment by buying Jay Z's CD's. On the other hand a lot of 'the players' said they will not play for Limbaugh, and a lot of 'rich White men' said that Limbaugh is lacking in (my paraphrasing) "CULTURALLY COMPETENT SKILLS TO BE A PRO-FOOTBALL TEAM OWNER:" the Top 10 Racist Rush Limbaugh Quotes are not rumors they are fact, I did not lose the debate.


October 17, 2009 5:03 pm (Pacific time)

Tim and Henry... I will be honored to be part of Salem-News writing staff. I Thank the both of you for the kind words and encouragement. Tim give me a call and let's get together to talk about the particulars.

Tim King: Thanks Skip, that is excellent!  I know I had your number, will check... look forward to talking, and can you shoot me an email? tim@salem-news.com


Anonymous October 17, 2009 8:39 am (Pacific time)

Editor where is your evidence that Rush Limbaugh is against the poor or minorities? I hear this from people on the left but never any proof that that is true. Just take Limbaugh's charity giving, you will find not just from conservative millionaires, but all conservatives, rich and poor, their donations are far beyond the left's. Limbaugh raises millions and donates millions to veterans (and survivors) and other groups. Show me how this kind of giving is designed to harm the poor and minorities? It is true that Limbaugh is against affirmative action, which has warped to a quota system, and has spawned con industries like diversity training and the like. But on every state vote that dealt with affirmative action it passed overwhelmingly to discontinue it. This is when black radical leaders started to develop hate campaigns against conservatives. Just like illegal immigration, the voters are getting fed up with how those who work for us are ignoring our will. Just look at the voter fraud by ACORN. Had it not been for conservatives they would still be out there with our tax money engaging in election fraud. This country is still made up by a majority of those who hold conservative values. A revolution is brewing and the outcome was actually accomplished in 1783.


Reluctant Hero October 16, 2009 6:38 pm (Pacific time)

Limbaugh sure has his detractors, but his supporters, as per the Washington Post are greater than 20 million, maybe even over 30 million. Those numbers just represent his listening audience so one can only guess how large his spere of influence really is. Heck most people in simpatico with Limbaugh are at work paying the taxes to support the blue states and cities that only spend the wealth not make it. Maybe that is why many of your visitors don't donate to this site, they are not working or they only are good at spending OPM (other peoples money). Limbaugh's audience is made up of people of all races, educational backgrounds and every other kind of demographic one can conjure up. Is there a non-politican that has a larger following? Maybe now that Governor Sarah Palin is a private citizen she may out do Limbaugh. Time will tell. THE FACTS AS RELATED TO THE ABOVE ARTICLE WERE IN ERROR. It is human nature to dislike those that hold opposing views, but Limbaugh is just a voice that represents tens of millions of like-minded. They are not going away and as you see future elections unfold you will witness the growing strength of these millions. Deal with it, for the radicals had the chance but have blown it, or rather Obama's policies have been rejected, which even a blind person could see. I say peace, but we know how to deal in self-defense, which one could say, rumble, but in a self-defense fashion, we will prevail, regardless. Watch the future votes and see the evidence pile up.

Editor: Rush Limbaugh is experiencing a setback, he does have a right under the First Amendment to freedom of speech, but he is against Americans at large, he is against the poor, he is against minorities, he is against pretty much everything he can be in order to match his right wing rhetoric.  The thing people need to appreciate is that the old guard is out and the new guard is in, and guys like Limbaugh; who parade around in their renaissance of 1950's white bread thinking, actually do far more harm than anything else.  Limbaugh is against the poor, Salem-News.com is for the poor, how could we possibly see it any differently?  


Ed October 16, 2009 11:20 am (Pacific time)

I wasn’t super offended by this, the whole black quarterback/coach thing has been going on for years in sports, but the quote was so offensive that Retired General Wesley Clarke said: There can be no excuse for such statements. http://minx.cc/?post=242563


Michael October 16, 2009 11:17 am (Pacific time)

NFL Hypocrisy on Rush  By Jeffrey Lord on 10.14.09 @ 12:29PM  There's more here than meets the eye on this business with Rush and the NFL.   The blatant hypocrisy of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and Indianapolis Colts owner James Irsay would boggle the mind if one hadn't seen so much of this kind of nonsense.  We all know the drill by now. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson get to crusade for civil rights while being on the record anti-Semites. No problem. Feminists of all manner are apolplectic about Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill but silent as lambs about Bill Clinton and Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick etc. etc. No problem. Democrats lecture Republicans about race but built their political party on racial issues -- from support of slavery to segregation to lynching to racial quotas. No big deal. The New York Times editorial board lectures the 48% minority New Haven Fire Department that it doesn't have enough minority representation -- and out of 17 editorial board members 15 out of the 17 are lily white. No problem.  Now you can add the NFL to this list of hypocrites. For the Commissioner and the owner of the Indianopolis Colts to be lecturing Rush Limbaugh -- or anyone -- about controversy when in fact they are slipping big bucks to the most controversial politicians in the land -- in Irsay's case both John Edwards and George W. Bush! -- is laughable. And on race? This is a man who, if these hypocrites paid the slightest attention, is possessed of friends, employees and guest hosts of his program who are -- gasp -- black!!!! Will the NFL be contacting these people for a discussion of Rush and race? So let's rumble, if that's the desire. If so-called journalists -- liberals masquerading as sports reporters -- are determined to repeat made-up quotes -- also known as deliberate lies -- about Rush Limbaugh and airily purvey them as truths, if the NFL itself is going to pretend it is pure as the driven snow when in fact the Commissioner himself and a team owner are financially enabling the most divisive and controversial politicians in the land, then its time to look into the political activities of every owner and player in the league.

Editor: Rumble? What exactly does that mean Michael, some kind of veiled threat?  There is no question that some diehards are going to stick for this moron Rush Limbaugh, but to suggest that he isn't a bigot is a bad joke.  He, and obviously you, are cut from a cloth that nobody likes anymore, and they were only duped into liking it in the first place because your hero Limbaugh empowers his flock through fear and hate.  I love being able to review his actions here, and I am no sports reporter, I am a news reporter, and this is news from a much bigger picture than just sports.  And whether you or others like it or not, there are more of us than it would seem, and we are growing in number.  The days of Americans being poisoned by the likes of Limbaugh will probably never end, but we can crank up the pressure on him, that's for sure.


Henry Ruark October 16, 2009 10:17 am (Pacific time)

"Skipper, If I haven't mentioned this before, I would be so honored to add you to our writing staff, you are greatly appreciated in these parts sir and I would be happy if this sounded good, thanks! Tim" May I strongly second the motion Tim makes here ? We need all the driving, detailed analysis built on testable fact that we can get...and you continue to supply some when needed, sir. Let's have moreanddeeper, esp. on such situational morons as mentioned here in more excruciating, revealing detail than found elsewhere. The destruction of our "experiment in democracy" is well underway, hastened and harried and hugely hurting many millions by this kind, level, type and pattern of dollar pursuit despite what it clearly now does do to all of us.


Cooper October 15, 2009 6:20 pm (Pacific time)

HUFFPO PULLS FAKE LIMBAUGH QUOTES. Not sure if anyone has picked this up yet, but the editors at the Huffington Post have pulled the fake Limbaugh "slavery" quotes from a 2006 Jack Huberman article. Huberman's book was one of the original sources for the fake quotes, apparently picking them up from the wikipedia entry where they first appeared. A note at the beginning of the article now states: "Editor's Note: An earlier version of this post contained quotes attributed to Rush Limbaugh, which Limbaugh has since denied making. As is our policy when a fact in a blog post is called into question, we gave its author 24 hours to substantiate the quote. Since he has not been able to do so, the quotes have been deleted from the post." So Huberman wasn't able to back it up, they pulled the quotes. That's fair enough, I guess. I wonder if the rest of the "fact-check" media will be honest enough to follow their online lead. Recall they "fact-checked Saturday Nights Live's satire skit on Obama from last weekend. Fact-checking satire, unbelievable. What is unfortunate for those not fond of Limbaugh is that he has millions of listeners and this will backfire and just make him much stronger. I frankly don't think he will sue anyone because his fan base has become quite energized, so they'll be giving grief to the NFL and others who fabricated the lies. Truely unfortunate situation.


B Cooper October 15, 2009 1:16 pm (Pacific time)

Skipper have you got any links to video/audio sources? Limbaugh has literally had every public word he has said recorded, so maybe if we have some actual recorded comments it may dispell the notion that this is just an attack on his political viewpoints and not because of a racist ideology. Just because one critizizes an individual and that person is of the opposite race, that does not make them a racist. How about Jesse Jackson and his well known statements about "Hymies" and "Hymie Town?" Then let's look at the rapper Jay Z, who owns a piece of the New Jersey Nets and not just this rapper's hateful lyrics about white people, but what he said during the presidential swearing-in period last January of Obama, and the anti-white comments he made during the different ceremonial galas? Just google search on him and the video/audio bites are all over. None on Limbaugh, none. Should they have Jay Z sell his ownership? Or anyone that has made untoward statements about others that have a team ownership? There are a lot of rumors out there that become urban legend but have no basis in fact. You would think by now there would be actual video/audio links and there are none. This is a smear campaign unless some evidence starts surfacing. When we take people we dislike and fabricate rumors or fail to verify rumors, then we have lost the debate. I have seen many written out allegations at different websites out there, but no evidence.


"Skipper" Osborne October 15, 2009 7:15 am (Pacific time)

Good, Rush Limbaugh has been dropped by his partners.


October 14, 2009 11:49 pm (Pacific time)

To all the conservatives out there that are crying for proof of Rush Limbaugh's racist rehtoric. Here are the top ten racist comments compiled by Casey Gane-McCalla: It has come to my attention that some people are questioning the legitimacy of these quotes so I have decided to source them. Every quote was found in a book or reputable website.
Here’s Our Top 10 Racist Rush Limbaugh Quotes
1. I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.
Source
Okay Rush, slavery was not a good thing for the millions of African Americans who were enslaved, raped and beaten. The streets weren’t at all safe for African Americans. Slavery not a bad thing? Someone should put Rush on a plantation for him to see how great it is. Keep on fear and race mongering Rush, you might get to Goebbels status.
2. You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.
Source
Martin Luther King is a national hero, not a black hero. Everybody in the United States celebrates his birthday, children are taught to look up to him as a hero in school. He’s earned the respect and admiration of the world and you believe the man who killed him was a hero? This is beyond racist. This is evil, mean spirited, subhuman. Praising the assassin of one of our great American heroes is beyond the scope of regular racism.
3. Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?
Source
No but I’ve noticed that all racist bigots think like Rush Limbaugh. Comparing a respected black politician and minister to common criminals is Jim Crow racism. Maybe all black people look alike to him, but I’ve never seen a picture of a wanted criminal that looks like Jesse Jackson. A serial killer that looks like Rush Limbaugh on the other hand.
John Wayne Gacy.
4. Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.
Source
The communist connection is an old way of dealing with black leaders. They used it on Martin Luther King, they’re using it on Barack Obama and Limbaugh used it on Nelson Mandela. By siding with the racist apartheid regime over a world-wide symbol of peace and freedom, Limbaugh has shown he’s a global racist.
5. Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.
Source
Limbaugh is once again fear mongering and race baiting by associating professional black athletes with criminals and gangmembers. He continues the fear mongering association of good, decent, hard working African Americans as criminals.
6. The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.
Source
Now Limbaugh is saying that an organization with a storied tradition of representing the positive black people for change in their communities are criminals and rioters. An organization that has been represented by intelligent professional African Americans, that has played a part in the Civil Rights movement and continues to be an intelligent, concerned voice for the African American community is degraded to common criminals. There you go Rush. Keep racism alive!!!!
7. They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?
Source
Decent human beings care Rush. Someone out of that 12% is the 00President of the United States. Not caring about black people? Even George Bush wouldn’t admit to that.
8. Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller).
Source
Okay Rush that’s classy. The old African bone in the nose stereotype. Wasn’t funny when the racist white school kids called the black kids that and it’s definitely not funny when a grown man with audience of millions of easily influenced dittoheads says it either.
9. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.
Source
I wasn’t super offended by this, the whole black quarterback/coach thing has been going on for years in sports, but the quote was so offensive that Retired General Wesley Clarke said:
There can be no excuse for such statements. Mr. Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he wants, but ABC and ESPN have no obligation to sponsor such hateful and ignorant speech. Mr. Limbaugh should be fired immediately. When a respected, retired general condemns the statement of a sportscaster, you know he’s gone too far.
10. Limbaugh attacks on Obama. Limbaugh has called Obama a ‘halfrican American’ has said that Obama was not black but Arab because Kenya is an Arab region, even though Arabs are less than one percent of Kenya. Since mainstream America has become more accepting of African-Americans, Limbaugh has decided to play against its new racial fears, Arabs and Muslims. Despite the fact Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law school, Limbaugh has called him an ‘affirmative action candidate.’ Limbaugh even has repeatedly played a song on his radio show ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ using an antiquated Jim Crow era term for black a man who many Americans are supporting for president. Way to go Rush.
So Rush Limbaugh has managed to make racist attacks on four of the most admired and respected people of African descent in the past one hundred years, in Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, Colin Powell and Barack Obama. He has called for the assassin of Martin Luther King to be given a medal, and said slavery was a good thing. He has claimed that Joe the Plumber, who isn’t even a plumber is more important in this election than Colin Powell, a decorated military veteran who has served honorably in three administrations. How can the Republican party stand by this man and let their candidates appear on his show? Rush Limbaugh’s comments are so racist, they’re funny, in a Borat, Archie Bunker kind of way. What is not funny is the millions of dittoheads who listen to him, who take in and re-spout all the racist rhetoric that he spits. Limbaugh’s statements are echoed in the racist, angry Palin/McCain supporters who shout ‘kill him,’ ‘terrorist,’ ‘communist,’ ‘traitor,’ ’socialist’ and ‘off with his head.
My niece's friend Nicole just came in and I told her what I was doing she replied: "Just because I am rich, and a pedophile I can open up a day care?" Not only that Limbaugh has a 'Oxycontin' problem, what kind of example is that for football players?

Skipper,

If I haven't mentioned this before, I would be so honored to add you to our writing staff,  you are greatly appreciated in these parts sir and I would be happy if this sounded good, thanks!

Tim

 


Alex October 14, 2009 5:19 pm (Pacific time)

They ought to let somebody buy that team.  They Rams are so bad it is embarrassing.  The NFL certainly takes in enough scum bags as players, why get picky on the ownership?


Joe Walburn October 14, 2009 4:03 pm (Pacific time)

Geez Tim, are the editors going to whine about every pro-Rush comment? Pretty sad, not to mention the hypicrosy of it all.

Tim King: No Joe, that is not the case.  But just the same way Rush controls the phone calls, we control the comments.  If we have something to say we will say it and we aren't "whining" any more than you are, OK?


Russ October 14, 2009 6:18 pm (Pacific time)

Editor Rush Limbaugh is not my man, but I believe in fair play. Since several well known personalities made serious allegations about him making racist comments they have not provided any evidence. The media has picked it up and concentrated on this individual over other more relevant news. Now it appears he has been dropped from the group that was bidding on buying the RAMs, thus if Limbaugh wanted this to happen or not he has a prim. fac. case for damages. Even though he is a public personality that precludes certain types of lawsuits, not anymore, because he has a damage beef. I guess if he does sue, that means there is no corresponding evidence on him and some people may be coming forward offering apologies is my guess. It's not right to make up things, and I believe they are made up because of the way the internet and cable news research abilitiy exists, no one has a sound bite or video of him making the racist comments he was said to have made. I saw an interview with his producer/sidekick, a black man, and he called the accusations absurd. The 1st Amendment has both protections and consequences. Regardless of anyone's political viewpoints, we do NOT have the right to shut one down if we don't like there's, especially when you harm someone from making a living.

Editor: Interesting points Russ, thanks for your comments.


Daniel October 14, 2009 2:18 pm (Pacific time)

The fact is american football is similar to a gladiator sport with multiple injuries every season . It also seems strange the owners , OWN the players , that sounds kind of like owning a race horse . Soccer is a much better sport and has a huge audience worldwide . High school football is lots of lifetime injuries for a few seasons of glory and no money . Sports should make one healthy not crippled ! America would be far better off if people participated in some type of healthy physical activity with friends and family instead of being glued to the tube watching the game . Of course this is a free country so people should be allowed to make their own choices , even tho the choices are shoved into your brain by the mass media . As for RUSH , he looks the type to die from colon cancer in a few years , so let him enjoy his brief time as the center of attention .


Russ October 14, 2009 12:20 pm (Pacific time)

I don't have the time to listen to talk radio, but over the years as per exchanges with people who do listen, told me that as people like Rush Limbaugh are constantly attacked, they simply get stronger as their fans rally around them and new listeners are drawn in out of curiosity. On the other hand, liberal radio hosts, and television also I guess, do not attract as large audiences as the conservatives. So are there more conservatives out there than liberals? I must admit that when I hear people like Al Sharpton calling others racists, that it just gets pretty absurd when it comes from him. You know since Limbaugh has the bucks, we might start seeing some lawsuits coming on, especially if the statements made about him are false, which I heard no one has any actual sound bites or video to back up some of the so-called racist comments by him. Anyone have any links out there? We go down a pretty scary road when people just make up stuff or repeat rumors without evidence.

Editor: Wow, nice subtle defense of your man there Russ.  With all the crap he spews about people on a regular basis, I suggest he takes it easy on going after people.  I don't think there are any lies being issued, I would bet it is very likely that he said all of the things they are reporting and he simply wishes they didn't have the information.  This guy has been a divisive scourge in our society and what goes around, comes around.  Maybe that is what is taking place.  


Osotan; October 14, 2009 7:12 am (Pacific time)

Rush is a class act isn't he. What a reputable spokesman for..,???,I heard a recent brain scan showed no synaptic activity.

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