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Rebecca January 30, 2012 5:38 pm (Pacific time)

Dear Coral, Your story hit home with me. I also lost my children to my mental and sexually abusive ex husband, but in Utah. 12yrs later, my daughter aged out and has been with me ever since. My son turned 18 today but unfortunately is in states custody because of abuse that happened in my ex husbands home. I've done everything in my power to protect my children over the years and lost my visits because of that. I went two and a half years without seeing my kids. I don't know how you've managed, it about killed me not to be with them. It seems as soon as I accepted losing custody then they made it so I couldn't see them. That I could never accept. Now my fight is with this state, and my ex who continues to tell the state I don't deserve unsupervised visits with my son.. I know they will keep my son because he is a special needs child. I just wish we could move on with our lives once and for all, That is all I've ever wanted.... God bless you for sharing your story. Take care. Here's my email: Rebeccarh73@yahoo.com I'm also on facebook


Charlene June 14, 2010 12:41 pm (Pacific time)

justice is not much better in Florida. My child was not taken from me but my injunction against domestic violence was denied, in spite of the evidence. I was raped, physically assaulted, and emotionally/mentally abused for years. My abuser forced me to become pregnant and he proceeded to abuse our child. I finally escaped but I cannot hide due to his property rights towards our son. I also asked to relocate for our safety and so I could start a new, better life. The judge denied my request. I am legally bound to my abuser because he succeeded in impregnating me against my wishes. This is sick, it is wrong, it has to change.


Stone August 23, 2009 2:20 am (Pacific time)

Dear Coral, I wish I could say that I have never heard of any thing that compares to the horrors you have and continue to suffer at the hands of your ex-husband, the controlling B*****D! But I would like to share something my grandmother used to quote to me when times were at there worst 'what you do to the least of mine, you do to me'! and 'whatever harm you cause another will come back on you ten-fold'! Coral those who harm you harm themselves more, they just don't know it yet! The Lord they supposedly worship, is not the Divine Lord God, The Redeemer and the Supreme Lord of Justice for whom all must come before. Your ex should be down on his knee's begging yours and the Lord God's forgiveness now, Come the day of Judgement, it will be too late. also, you are a survivor, HE made you one. Keep up the fight, your reward is coming. Bless and keep you safe.


Coral Anika Theill July 20, 2009 8:27 am (Pacific time)

NEWS ALERT AND UPDATE: Good Morning America and Citizens around the world: When I think my wealthy ex husband, Mr. Marty Warner of Independence, Oregon, has gone to the limit of the definition of obscene and sadistic, he out does himself once again. I am afraid to think of what he will do that could be more low than what he is doing to me today. I have learned a great deal about psychopaths and narcissistic individuals in my research these past many years, especially at one website called: http://sanctuaryfortheabused.com Besides decades of spiritual and ritual abuse, physical and mental abuse, rape and then taking my children from me as a form of punishing me when I divorced him for safety reasons, these past 14 years he has legally stalked and abused me further. He sued me while I have been homeless and disabled, for more child support and brainwashing my children to hate me. Oregon Courts continue to support his abuse. There are few laws to protect women seeking safety. My ex goes one step further today, and his Christian friends, family and church members continue to support him. ***My brother, Donald Alan Hall, was killed in a tragic plane crash in Mammoth Lake, California, July 8th. His girlfriend was also killed too. I learned about this tragedy on July 10th through an email by my brother's former girlfriend. I cared about my brother deeply his entire life. He was my baby brother. His memorial service is this morning at Covenant Christian Community Church, 2630 E. 18th St, The Dalles, Oregon, at 11:00 am. Pastor David will be reading a eulogy I wrote for my brother's service. I cannot legally attend my brother's service. My ex husband, Mr. Marty Warner, will be attending the service, along with my children, who I lost through seeking safety and a divorce 13 years ago. I have lived under a protection program from my ex for 11 years now, because of domestic violence, rape and threats. It would be unsafe and unwise to be at my brother's funeral because for obvious reasons, but the fact that my 2 minor children, who are 14 and 17, will be there, creates legal problems for me. It would be illegal for me to attend my brother's service today. Mr. Warner has custody and I have no visitation privileges, due to the fact I have no monies or attorney and wish no contact with their father. I would be arrested and be in "contempt of court" to be in the vicinity of my children. I have not seen my children for 13 years, after being a nuturing and loving mother for 20 years. Seventy five percent of women seeking safety in America today lose their children in family courts to their abuser. http://batteredmotherscustodyconference.com My father, Bobby Ray Hall, who died 25 years ago, I am sure is rolling in his grave today, knowing his daughter cannot attend her brother's funeral. My brother and I were as close as twins, sharing joy, sorrow and tragedies throughout most of our life. Sadly, my brother adopted an extreme form of legalistic fundamental Christianity (he was a born again, spirit filled Christian like my ex) as his religion in his twenties and choose to shun me 6 years ago until now, when I was living out of my car, disabled and destitute. I truly lost my brother 6 years ago. It made me sad that he would not acknowledge me as a fellow human being, but I learned to respect and accept his choice. Christian friends of mine, attempted to confront him about this, but to no avail. I have had no family, due to their support of my abuser, my ex. I missed Don greatly these past years and have always loved him and always will (before he was a Christian and after). I never thought I would live to see a day like today. I am saddened and grieved at the news of my brother's death. If my ex and children were not there at his service, I could have the choice to attend. My ex did not know my brother and my children have only had contact with him a few times in the past 14 years. My brother has attended my daughter's weddings, I have not been invited or welcome. Oprah Winfrey continues to state that "America is the safest place for women in the world." Her statement is false per my experiences these past many decades. This day and event may be unprecedented. I don't know if this has happened before. I cannot digest fully, the events of today as there is nothing built in my psyche to process this. I attended my father's funeral and gave the eulogy. That was healing for me. The individuals who attend my brother's funeral today and are allowed to talk to and see my children will need to ask themselves, someday this question. "Why are they allowed to attend, and his sister was not." I was extremely close to my brother for 46 of his 52 years. I have many questions today and I hope I live into some answers. Writing is a "healing crisis" for me, so I will be using my experiences to date to write news articles for domestic violence month in October. My friends and mentors say, "Coral, something has got to shift, it can't go on this way." After the news of my brother's death last week, I received another blow. My wealthy ex husband was awarded my disability check, due to the fact that I owe him back child support as he sued me when I was homeless, destitute and disabled for double the amount of monies than I could earn. My ex and many of his Christians friends and supporters remind me of the saying, "If you can't be a good example, you will just have to be a horrible warning." I am having these quotes read at my brother's service today as I believe my brother would appreciate these words. HEAVEN A sage asked the Creator to show him Hell. In it were people on both sides of a long table, seated in front of a big pot of stew. Each person had a spoon with a very long handle, such that they could not get any food for themselves. They were perpetually starving. Then he saw Heaven. Same set-up, but the people were feeding each other. ******* "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." - Maya Angelou I wish Don's and his girlfriend's family and friends peace and comfort during this most difficult time. Respectfully, Coral Anika Theill Author, Advocate and Mother of Lost Children "Comfort the disturbed, disturb the comfortable"


Louise May 15, 2009 4:59 am (Pacific time)

It makes me ill to read about abused mothers whose abusers further assault them by using custody against them. Coral is an example of what an extension of an abuser the legal system can be. What enrages me most is that the abusers don't really care about the children; taking them is a way to cause more pain to the mothers; women they have already hurt so much. I encourage mothers in the same situation to visit the site of Lundy Bancroft, author of "Why Does He Do That?: Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men" - particularly his page on Child Custody Justice - here's the url: http://www.lundybancroft.com/child-custody-justice.html To you mums whose abusers took your children - you have my utmost compassion. xxxxxx


Coral Anika Theill July 4, 2008 6:40 am (Pacific time)

July 4, 2008 "Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others." ---William Allen White I long to be emancipated from my abusive ex husband, Mr. Marty Warner and Oregon's judicial system that has fully supported him to this day. I want the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."


anonymouns June 11, 2008 8:21 pm (Pacific time)

coral are prayers are with you you were a great mentor to me when i was young we sang songs while hiking you were always a great lady be strong this is a very wrong situation that cant go on any longer im family


anoymous June 11, 2008 8:11 pm (Pacific time)

Someday we can all hope that Justice will be heard but it sure feels like that time has passed. We sought but never found Justice in Oregon. I would hope more people would get aggravated and write, call or get involved. It is hard when just a few people are the ones trying to affect change. We found the legal system has many ways to silence those trying to stand up and with no one in power willing to investigate it is overwhelming.


Finally Free June 1, 2008 11:42 am (Pacific time)

I, too have been victimized by ex'es who got away with the unimaginable horrors committed against me. Both of my sons are also victims of brain washing and I have no content with them because of it. My redemption came through God and a few good people but I have a long way to go in some areas. Bringing truth from the back burner up front and center through writing about it has been a redemptive work for myself and others still imprisoned by these legal terrorists who call themselves husbands, fathers, and all around 'good guys'. In Heaven's Court, Justice WILL be heard!


Anonymous April 30, 2008 9:35 am (Pacific time)

I heard about an underground railroad for battered/abused women and children several years ago. I wonder if they are still around.


A Battered Mother April 14, 2008 9:36 pm (Pacific time)

The re-victimization of battered women and children by our family court system rises to the level of the need for an underground railroad.


A Battered Mother in California Who April 12, 2008 1:58 pm (Pacific time)

Everyday I wake up in a nightmare in which I am bound and gagged and prevented from protecting my beloved child from his/her abusive father - by the family court system whose job it is to ensure his/her "best interests."


anonymous April 10, 2008 8:36 pm (Pacific time)

Keep up the good fight Coral and may God be with you.


fed up in oregon February 25, 2008 9:16 pm (Pacific time)

I ran google searches on Abuse, Corruption and limited them to Polk County Oregon. Your story seems to be the normal mode of operation. I sat for a couple hours going from one site to another and reading the same type of story from one person after another. The names are different the crux of the matter is you are one of many facing this. Yet there seems to be no way to stop it. The Attorney General in most states would investigate or the FBI would. These are not options in Oregon. My heart goes out to you and my prayers are with you. The bible says in the end times people would stand in the street and cry for Justice but Justice would be far off.


tossthebumout January 11, 2008 7:16 am (Pacific time)

I hope someday an investigation into Polk County will ensue. It doesn't appear anything ever changes. Our stalker once again was arrested for a felon in possession of a weapon this last week. He shot it off in city limits to scare the people. Although he is on parole for this same crime he only did 6 days and was released. Some criminals are just treated special in Oregon no matter what they do.


fed up in oregon December 29, 2007 8:39 am (Pacific time)

There is another woman named Melanie LeBaron that is also having problems with Polk County. She has several posts online about her situation. I know there are many who have been treated very poorly by the legal system and law enforcement in Polk County. It is suprising they are allowed to continue with no investigations, no recourse, not even a slap on the hand. My family had our lives ruined at the hands of DA Fisher because we made the fatal mistake of begging for help from him and the sheriff. Where do you go when you need help in Polk County? Not to those that are elected to protect you that is for sure. It is sickening.


Anonymous December 19, 2007 9:52 pm (Pacific time)

I saw the letter to the Governor and the Attorney General. I sincerely hope that they respond but please do not hold your breath for them. Several in our community wrote to them both asking for help and they refused to acknowledge or respond. It was regarding Polk County Sheriffs and DA Fisher and what was happening here. By the non response it was taken that they just don't care about the people. Your case is one of many with the same type of situation, it is common in Oregon. Polk County is known as one of the worst state wide. It is very sad that the state could care less. Hopefully because of your book they will at least acknowledge you which is more than most people can get from them. Be extremely careful though the retaliation may be horrendous. It would be nice if Oregon would either do something with its overseeing agencies to make them do their jobs or get rid of them all. They are worthless organizations, people put in complaints that no one will investigate when a judge embarasses witnesses by telling lies in an open full court room about the witness, has court with the prosecutor after the defendant (and Attorney) have left the court and make decisions on cases. It is unconceivable that judges would not follow the law and would legislate from the bench fully ignoring their duties as a judge to uphold law not make up their own. Polk County is in serious need of a full investigation into the entire county and what is happening here. The sad part is no one has listened or gotten involved to make that happen. It is unbelievable that in this day people live in fear of the elected officials in their state, with no one to turn to because the federal government won't respond, the state Governor and Attorney General won't respond so where do you go? Of course they all run unopposed so they will continue to be elected. This year Fisher has opposition - Go Stan Butterfield for DA!!! Good luck to you. All of us that have had to put up with the courts, DA and others will be cheering you on! Maybe you will get somewhere - we all hope. Thank you for speaking out and thanks to Tim King for writing your article. Most of the press refused to write anything about Polk County for fear of retaliation. You go Mr. King and Coral, be the people's hero.


Kerry Ince December 11, 2007 11:35 am (Pacific time)

Coral, I am so sorry for your abuse. I am one of the many mothers who have lost my little girl to an abuser through the corrupt Texas court systems. I don't know how they think that any of these children will make any kind of adult being taught and raised by these types of people. It really makes me sick.


Jennifer in FL December 5, 2007 8:10 pm (Pacific time)

Coral please keep your head up and remain strong. Your story along with many of the others I have heard since being thrust into this world by my abuser, have given me the strength to keep fighting for my child. She is a beautiful 6 year old. She is learning to read in school. She is also learning that lying and cheating and being mean are not what nice people do. Nice people help others, they do not lie, and they do not cheat. Most importantly you do not purposely hurt others. Sadly her father cannot, nor will he ever, teach her that lesson. So in closing Coral, remain strong. Keep sharing with the world so those out there like me can battle our demons and maybe one day one of us will be heard. We can save our children from an unimaginable hell.


Bison Boy December 5, 2007 1:25 pm (Pacific time)

She's not the only one. I know another woman who has suffered a very similar abuse at the hands of her former boyfriend. The Marion County DA has done absolutely nothing to address her rape complaint - they even refused to take her initial report. Her family court experience is less extreme than that in this story, but along similar lines. I have names, dates, and access to some supporting documentation, and I would love to see her rapist brought to justice. If the reporter is interested in her story, please contact me at beartruth@softhome.net and I can arrange something.


Neal Feldman November 29, 2007 9:43 pm (Pacific time)

The 'family courts' and their jackbooted thug arm Gestapo CPS are completely corrupt and rotten to the core. Any good they do is countered 100-1000 times by the harm/evil/wrong that they do. These agencies and extra-hydicial 'court' system should be abolished. But there are so many loony nitwits supporting all this 'for the children'. They want to make me hork all over them. Ah well...


J. Wright November 29, 2007 12:06 pm (Pacific time)

I have followed Coral's story for the past two years and this same story is repeated in so many states in our country, nothing short of a Federal intervention is warranted. Coral, thank you for giving a voice to those of us who have remained unheard. Your courage gives me strength.


Tim King November 28, 2007 2:47 pm (Pacific time)

I personally called the Governor's Office and the Attorney General's Office today to advise them of the existence of this extremely important piece from Coral.

Both Ted Kulongoski and Hardy Myers are good men with big hearts, I have interviewed each of them many times and I have spent time with the Governor flying over disastrous wildfires, we've even spent time together in the war theater of Afghanistan where Oregon troops were serving. I trust that people in their respective offices will alert them to this special plea from Coral. It is ridiculous that anyone in this state allowed this to go on at all, but it is not out of line to think that it can still be straightened out.

There is a rumor that this story is being examined for a documentary as well, and a movie. I hope the powers to be do the right thing and make justice prevail before it becomes an embarrassment for all Oregonians.


Matt Johnson November 28, 2007 9:47 am (Pacific time)

Coral, This is an amazingly sad story that no woman in any decent society should have to suffer. Indecency seems prominent in Polk County, Oregon. Mr. Warner needs to be fully investigated, and I have a feeling you will see this happen.


Jan Kurth November 28, 2007 8:45 am (Pacific time)

Coral, You have amazing courage. I got my daughter back from a chronically unemployed abuser. But it took 11 long years. Fortunately, he is now on the state's maltreatment and abuse list, after a CPS investigation. But why did it take this long?


Gene Deutscher November 28, 2007 7:30 am (Pacific time)

Is ethical leadership in the vocabularly of the Governor's office and the office of the Attorney General ?

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