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911 as an inside job now beyond doubt (UPDATED June 7, 2012)

911: It either knowingly happened at the level of the White House, or the highest levels of the government were wilfully blind.

(Calgary, Alberta) - Is the future of America worth a few hours of your time? I’m sure you would be willing to spend a day or half a day at a seminar to improve your job performance or your job prospects. Will you give your country as much?

The 911Truth movement is not receiving much respect or acknowledgement from the mainstream media. I will present evidence here, that you’ve probably never encountered before, as you took in and uncritically accepted the official government story. If you will invest a few hours and watch the internet videos at the end of this piece, you can decide for yourself.

Over the last week or so, I have watched several documentaries produced by different people and have come away completely shocked. The evidence suggesting some sort of official complicity is overwhelming.


After a week of informative comments, I have come to a further conclusion which I have placed at the end, just before the comments.)

What the so-called 911Truth movement is challenging

Was Abraham Lincoln right? "You can fool some of the people all of the time. You can fool all of the people some of the time. But you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

In the case of 911, no matter what doubts people might harbour privately, the vast majority of Americans still believe in the integrity of the federal government. It's a bedrock belief that, once cracks begin to appear, threatens American culture itself. From that point of view, the 911Truthers are legitimately unpatriotic. That can't be helped.

Ronald Reagan once suggested that the most nine most feared words in the English language were: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." With 911, those words take on a new and ominous meaning.

Has your government lied to you about 911?

One question to resolve is: Has your government ever lied to you and, as a result, your fellow citizens have innocently died?

The answer to that is an unequivocal yes. Two particularly egregious examples are, one, the fictitious Gulf of Tonkin incident of August 4, 1964 which resulted in the passage by Congress of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which gave President Johnson the authority to assist any Southeast Asian country whose government was considered to be jeopardized by "communist aggression". The resolution served as Johnson's legal justification for deploying U.S. conventional forces and the commencement of open warfare against North Vietnam. That war resulted in 58,000 American casualties.

The second example was the invasion of Iraq in 1991 in response to Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait. The American people, at the time, was split as to whether the U.S. should invade until a young woman, claiming to be a nurse who had worked at the Kuwait City Hospital, testified to atrocities conducted by Iraqi soldiers that they took babies out of incubators and threw them onto the cement floors to die. She saw this with her own eyes. This kind of emotional testimony increased the public’s support for a land war in Iraq, and the invasion was on.

But, a Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) investigative team learned that the young woman was, in fact, a member of the Kuwaiti royal family and the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the U.S. She had been trained in acting by the multinational PR firm Hill and Knowlton which was part of a joint White House/Kuwaiti operation. After finding no evidence to support those alleged atrocities, Amnesty International issued a retraction. That didn’t stop President George H. W. Bush from continuing to repeat the incubator allegations on television.

Building 7

I’ll begin with a little quiz. Have you ever heard of Building 7? It was part of the WTC complex and it collapsed at free fall speed at 520pm on 911. It was a 47 story building and had not been hit by a plane. There were minor fires on fewer than a half dozen floors. If you had read the official 911 Commission report, you’d still be in the dark because the Commission said nothing, nada, zip, zero about Building 7. That tells you how comprehensive a job the Commission did. (LOL)

Next ask your friends and acquaintances if they know anything about Building 7. You may be unpleasantly surprised at the lack of public knowledge.

Another interesting thing about Building 7 is that both CNN and the BBC reported that it had collapsed, a full half hour before it actually came down. In fact, when the BBC reporter was reporting its collapse, Building 7 could be seen still standing behind her!

The 911 Commission’s report dealt with Building 7 by completely ignoring it.

There was comparatively minor damage to Building 7 from the collapse of the two towers. The damage to the other buildings, 3, 4, 5 and 6 was immeasurably greater, yet they all remained standing. Building 7 came down in 6.5 seconds—a rate of about 7 floors per second.

Who paid for 911?

A modern mantra, apparently originating in the Woodward/Bernstein investigation of Watergate, is: "Follow the money." In the case of 911, the money was not followed.

General Mahmoud Ahmed, director of Pakistan’s ISI, instructed Ahmad Umar Sayed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker. No inquiry was ever made into why the ISI ordered that money sent. The 911 Commission concluded in their report that the financing of the attacks was “of little practical significance”.

President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were both asked to appear at the Commission. Inexplicably, they decided to appear together and set their own rules. They were not under oath; WTC family members, the public and the press were denied attendance, no recording of any kind was allowed and the Commission notes from the three hour appearance were subject to White House censorship.

At a news conference President Bush was asked, “Don’t you think the families deserve to have a transcript or to be able to see…” He was interrupted by Bush who said: “You asked the same question yesterday and you’ll get the same answer.” In other words, no answer.

Suspicious? You decide.

The Twin Towers

Frank A. DeMartini, Manager, WTC Construction and Project Management said:

This [tower] was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time [the late 1960s]. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door. This intense grid and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that netting and it really does nothing to the screen netting.”

In order for the towers to collapse, 47 steel columns at the core, 236 exterior columns, and thousands of steel trusses, all had to fail at the same time. Never in the history of construction, has a steel building ever collapsed due to fire.

The WTC towers and Building 7, in fact, were the only steel structure buildings in the history of construction to ever collapse.

  • Oct 17 2004, Caracas, Venezuela 26 floors of a 56 story building burned for 17 hours
  • May 1988 First Interstate Bank, Los Angeles, 73 stories tall, burned for 3.5 hours
  • September 9/11 WTC 5 burned for 6 hours
  • Feb 12 2005, Windsor Tower in Madrid, 29 floors burned for 24 hours
  • Feb 23, 1991 One Meridian Plaza, Philadelphia 38 floors, 8 floors burned for 18 hours
  • Feb 13, 1975 a fire broke out on the 11th floor of WTC1 and spread through an inner service core down to the ninth and up to the 14th floors burning for three hours

None of those buildings collapsed or even came close to collapsing

If the WTC towers collapsed as a result of "normal" events, several other mysteries must be explained:

  1. A minute and 20 seconds before the collapse large amounts of white smoke began pouring from the base of the south tower
  2. The collapse happened faster than by gravity itself
  3. Firefighters and eye witnesses all reported explosions at various times
  4. CNN and BBC reported that Building 7 had collapsed before it actually did and in the BBC case, the building could be seen behind the reporter as she spoke

Advance work?

Electronic security for WTC and Dulles Airport (also involved in 911) was supplied by a company called Securacom. Wirt D. Walker III, a Bush cousin, was the CEO and George W. Bush’s younger brother Marvin P. was a principle of the company.

This introduces another unexplained aspect.

Scott Forbes was the senior database specialist for Fiduciary Trust in 2001. For nearly an entire weekend, there was a building power down.

We were notified three weeks in advance of the power down by the Port Authority. It was relatively short notice to plan to shut down all of our banking systems. It was a big deal, it was unprecedented. We had a data center on the 97th floor. During that weekend of the power down meant that there was no security. The doors were all open basically. And all the security video cameras were all off. There were guys in overalls carrying huge tool boxes and reels of cables and walking around the building on that weekend.” They were ostensibly upgrading the internet cables.

Forbes reported this unusual activity to the 911 Commission but was ignored.

Steel recovered from the site was shipped overseas, eliminating any possibility of independent investigation. All the trucks used to haul away from ground zero were equipped with GPS units so that everyone could be tracked. One driver took an extra long lunch hour and was subsequently fired.

Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran says “The 911 Commission was a cover up” leading to the obvious question—what were they covering up?

It’s indisputable: 911 was certainly a conspiracy, but not of Al Queda. If you believe it happened as officially reported, then you owe it to yourself to address and investigate the incredible coincidences and contradictions.

When planes crash

When planes crash, the news coverage is dominated by images of the crash scene with debris scattered over large areas. In the case of the Pentagon, everything at the site disappeared. No seats, no luggage, no bodies. Even the two Rolls Royce, six-ton engines made of steel and titanium alloy, “disappeared.”

Videos from more than 80 security cameras in the area were immediately confiscated by the FBI, and the Department of Justice has never released them. The fact that a 757 crashed into the Pentagon remains an unproven, article of faith. Afterward the entire area was covered with dirt and gravel, making any forensic study impossible.

All that was left of the Shanksville crash was a gouge in the earth and a bunch of broken trees.

At Shanksville, Somerset County Coroner Wally Miller said: “It looked like somebody just dropped a bunch of metal out of the sky.” There was apparently a second debris site six to eight miles away. Both support the hypothesis that Flight 93 was actually shot down by a missile.

Osama Bin Laden: Guilty?

In a video allegedly found in Afghanistan Bin Laden admitted responsibility for the attack. But, says Arabist Dr. Abdel El M. Husseini: “I have carefully examined the Pentagon’s translation. This translation is very problematic. At the most important places where it is held to prove the guilt of Bin Laden, it is not identical with the Arabic.”

Gernot Rotter, Prof of Islamic and Arabic Studies at the Asia-Africa Institute at the University of Hamburg goes further: “The American translators who listened to the tapes and transcribed them apparently wrote a lot of things in that they wanted to hear but that cannot be heard on the tape no matter how many times you listen to it.”

WTC anomalies

1. William Rodriguez, a twenty-year WTC employee and the last person to walk out of the building alive, reported later that seconds before the first plane hit, there was an explosion in the basement, between the B2 and B3 levels. Commenters on news reports said that there appeared to be more smoke coming from the basement than from the upper floors.

2. If an FAA controller has any suspicion that a plane has been hijacked, he immediately notifies his superior and if the issue cannot be resolved within about a minute, NORAD is to be alerted and fighters scrambled to find out what is going on. In past experiences, intercepts or their equivalent have been made within about ten minutes; on 911, 80 minutes went by before fighters were even airborne.

There were apparently “war games” going on at the same time and NORAD was dealing with as many as 22 different “hijacks” and were apparently unable to separate the war game exercises from the real hijacks.

The U.S. has the most powerful, costly and technically sophisticated military machine in the world. And yet…

The year before (2000) NORAD had 67 intercepts with 100% accuracy. On 911, they had four failures in one day.

Cynthia McKinney, member, House Armed Services Committee asks: “How is it that on four separate occasions on one day, a trillion dollar military and intelligence infrastructure could fail.”

3. The free-fall rate of collapse of the WTC was about 10 floors per second. The building actually disintegrated. What hit the ground was steel and thousands of tons of gravel and fine dust. Building 7 came down at the rate of about six and a half floors per second.

4. For more than six weeks after 911, pools of molten metal hotter than 2OOO degrees F were found at WTC 1 and 2 and Building 7. That is 200 degrees hotter than jet fuel would burn under ideal conditions. None of this was addressed in the 911 report.

5. In 2005, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) released its 10,000 page report on WTC 1 and 2. The actual collapses themselves were not addressed in the report.

6. In 2008, the NIST report on Building 7 was released. They did not analyze a single piece of steel or examine a controlled demolition hypothesis. Instead, they built a computer model on the assumption of a “fire induced” collapse. The parameters used were not released, making it impossible for anyone else to do any kind of critical follow up.

The report admitted that there was a period of free-fall for 2.25 seconds (eight floors), but they gave no explanation of how this would be possible since their progressive collapse theory was based on systemic collisions and triggered failures.

7. There are links, friendships and business dealings between the Bush and bin Laden families that go back to at least the 1970s.

When George W. Bush started his first oil company, two of his financial backers were Osama Bin Laden and Bin Laden's brother in law.


Thomas von Essen, New York Fire Chief at the time, decided soon after 911 to gather as much anecdotal evidence as he could before memories faded or changed over time. He had 503 people interviewed—fire fighters and EMT personnel—all who had been on site that day. When completed, he had about 12 thousand pages.

When Graeme MacQueen, Founding director, Centre for Peace Studies, McMaster University, Hamilton, Canada learned about this material, he found that it had been largely ignored, so he decided to read it himself and draw his own conclusions.

Out of the 503 accounts he found ten who argued in support of the official story—about two percent. Conversely, 118 people reported explosions in the towers before or as they came down. MacQueen concludes:

Those who have suggested this was an inside job have a much stronger case than those who are trying to support the official narrative of the 19 hijackers.”


Danish chemistry professor Niels Harritt conducted a study of 911 and concluded: “The evidence for controlled demolition is overwhelming.”

David Ray Griffen, author of The New Pearl Harbor concluded that: “911 was a false flag operation intended to authorize the doctrines and funds for a new level of imperial mobilization.”

Historian Webster Tarpley says: “The entire U.S. ruling class, ruling elite, comes to see terrorism as the preferred means, indeed the only means, to provide social cohesion, to provide an enemy image for the society, to keep it together. According to neocon theory from Karl Schmidt you have to have an enemy image in order to have a society. It’s a very dangerous thing because now it means that the entire social order, the political parties, intellectual life, politics in general, [are] all based on a monstrous myth.”

Ted Gunderson, former FBI chief of LA, Dallas and Memphis operations: “Anti-terror legislation…takes away many of our constitutional rights and civil liberties.” Habeas corpus for Americans basically ended in 2006—a legal right that had existed since the nation’s founding.

New York Times columnist Andrew Rosenthal writes:

Those who buy into the line that we have to surrender some of our liberties and some of our democratic values to combat terrorism, and believe they are safe from the abuse of power because they are not Muslims, would do well to remember that the government has singled out other minority groups in the past, and may single out new groups in the future. Once, it was enough to be of Japanese descent to earn you transport to an internment camp.”

Update--New suspects

The idea that the U.S. government was somehow behind 911, strikes many people as incredible, although given the American government's record of lies: Gulf of Tonkin, Watergate, Iraq... it certainly makes the thoughtful citizen wonder.

My Salem-News colleague Allan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at the US Army War College has an even more penetrating theory: He argues that "It is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation."

If true, this explains a few mysteries: Why the Bush administration was so secretive--Bush/Cheney testified in private, not under oath and no transcript was made public. It would also explain so many shadowy men working in the towers in the weeks before 911 (I think, in particular, of Steve Forbes story which was completely ignored by the 911 Commission).

A Mossad connection would cast a new light on the "inside job" scenario. It was not an inside job per se, but rather some on the inside did know and have kept silent over the years.

We also know that in the days when air traffic was shut down across North America, not everyone was grounded. The Bin Ladens and most of their family members and associates were flown out of the country. One objection to the 911Truth movement is that what of the alleged perpetrators who are theoretically still among us. Why has no one spoken up--intentionally or by accident?

On the contrary, if it was the Mossad, they would not be among us, but would instead, have been spirited out of the country in the days of the airport lockdown.

Even the citizens of Israel would be in the dark and not know anything more than their American counterparts. As Alan Sabrosky concludes: "If Americans ever know that Israel did this, they are going to scrub them off the earth.”


Infiltration of the left (9 minutes):

911 Media coverup (9 minutes):

Jesse Ventura on 911 (9 minutes):

Graeme MacQueen 1 (10 minutes):

Graeme MacQueen 2 (10 minutes):

Untitled 2012 documentary (23 minutes):

Zeitgeist (starts 40 minutes in):

911 Mysteries (90 minutes):

Loose Change (2 hrs 9 mins):

Born and raised in Calgary, Alberta, Daniel Johnson as a teenager aspired to be a writer. Always a voracious reader, he reads more books in a month than many people read in a lifetime. He also reads 100+ online articles per week. He knew early that in order to be a writer, you have to be a reader.

He has always been concerned about fairness in the world and the plight of the underprivileged/underdog.

As a professional writer he sold his first paid article in 1974 and, while employed at other jobs, started selling a few pieces in assorted places.

Over the next 15 years, Daniel eked out a living as a writer doing, among other things, national writing and both radio and TV broadcasting for the CBC, Maclean’s (the national newsmagazine) and a wide variety of smaller publications. Interweaved throughout this period was soul-killing corporate and public relations writing.

It was through the 1960s and 1970s that he got his university experience. In his first year at the University of Calgary, he majored in psychology/mathematics; in his second year he switched to physics/mathematics. He then learned of an independent study program at the University of Lethbridge where he attended the next two years, studying philosophy and economics. In the end he attended university over nine years (four full time) but never qualified for a degree because he didn't have the right number of courses in any particular field.

In 1990 he published his first (and so far, only) book: Practical History: A guide to Will and Ariel Durant’s “The Story of Civilization” (Polymath Press, Calgary)

Newly appointed as the Deputy Executive Editor in August 2011, he has been writing exclusively for since March 2009 and, as of summer 2011, has published more than 160 stories.

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unbiased March 7, 2013 11:13 pm (Pacific time)

Those who refuse to question the gaping holes in the official 9/11 story, whether the overall story be true or not, and the obvious inconsistencies in Larry Silversteins revelations, whether he is trying to state the truth or not, do not deserve the liberty that they do not fight for. Also those who do not seek the truth, be it different from the official narrative or not, are part of the problem, as opposed to part of the solution, and at the same time are possibly doing the many victims of 9/11 a disservice by possibly allowing the deaths of these people to be in vain.

Anonymous March 7, 2013 3:16 pm (Pacific time)

anan; Nano-thermite explosives (estimated at over 10-tons) at the World trade center ... Nano-thermite explosives were gathered from the WTC.

Anonymous September 11, 2012 2:41 pm (Pacific time)

There are some people that simply will never believe their lord and savior (government) could be part of this...You could show evidence until the cows come home. But for those that are not sure but curious, I have a website you can see hundreds of articles. I am not a fan of the webmaster, but he is scroll down and on the left you will see 911. Click on it.

Anonymous September 11, 2012 2:36 pm (Pacific time)

You only have to know two things. One is that according to the official story, a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs. It is hard to image a more far-fetched story–except for the second thing you need to know: The humiliating failure of US National Security did not result in immediate demands from the President of the United States, from Congress, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and from the media for an investigation of how such improbable total failure could have occurred. No one was held accountable for the greatest failure of national security in world history. Instead, the White House dragged its feet for a year resisting any investigation until the persistent demands from 9/11 families for accountability forced President George W. Bush to appoint a political commission, devoid of any experts, to hold a pretend investigation. Paul Craig Roberts - former secretary of state under the Reagan Admin. Link to full article here:

Alburys Mum July 7, 2012 11:14 pm (Pacific time)

albury smith shill ( aka ass ) is an unqualified, anonymous troll, a demonstrable liar, who spends his life trolling any website that refers to 911 truth, posting his unsolicited absurd misinformation, disinformation and obfuscations on every page possible, tirelessly and repetitively.. all the while pretending to be some sort of final arbiter, on all things 911 who, while remaining anonymous, continually slanders qualified experts

the official version of events is nothing more than mere allegations. there has never been any credible evidence offered to support any of it. as a matter of fact, their own *evidence* actually proves 100% the official version of events can not be true, as a little investigation into the murray street engine shows...

It doesnt matter how or what was used to bring building 7 down, or if it took ten seconds or thirty. The fact that building 7 fell at freefall acceleration for ~2.5 seconds, as acknowledged begrudgingly by NIST, IS evidence that explosives were used as it is IMPOSSIBLE for all the structural support necessary for freefall acceleration to be achieved to be removed instantaneously and simultaneously without some form of controlled demolition.

as he well knows, and as he is unable to prove otherwise beyond any reasonable doubt, not just because he is an anonymous unqualified troll, but because the laws of physics applied just as much on 9-11 as they do today. any legitimate psychiatrist would therefore regard alburys position as insane.

further evidence of his chutzpah can be witnessed via a simple internet search for "albury smith 9 11" - his pitiful efforts are quite amusing as he stuggles against an overwhelming growing majority of people who after looking into a few facts, find it not unreasonable for family members of the victims to be calling for a proper independent transparent unfettered investigation with subpoena power, as called for, by an overwhelming, continually growing, majority of the worlds population, a fact verifiable by past and recent polls.

funny how albury pretends to be offended by "stalkers" when for the last few years, thats all hes done...albury currently trolling hard at these sites..

No evidence of god, dragons, unicorns, leprechauns, mermaids, or bodies from flight 93!

Martin cC. June 9, 2012 8:29 pm (Pacific time)

I fear for the intelligence of anyone that believes this "conspiracy theory" crap and thier descendants. I will however continue to pray for you all.

Martin cC. June 9, 2012 8:27 pm (Pacific time)

I fear for the intelligence of anyone that believes this "conspiracy theory" crap and thier descendants. I will however continue to pray for you all.

eddie zawaski June 8, 2012 12:08 pm (Pacific time)


Thanks for having the courage to bring up the issue of a possible Mossad connection at the end of your article. I know how difficult and dangerous it is in the USA to bring up anything even remotely critical of Israel and any of its agencies. Mossad and all the other so-called intelligence agencies are, in fact, engaged not in intelligence gathering, but in destabilization of governments. A huge destabilizing event like 911 points directly to the machinations of one or a number of these agencies. Despite the fact that there is overwhelming evidence that the US Mafia assassinated JFK at the behest of the CIA, most people in America still cling to the official story. Similarly, the implausible official version of the twin towers collapse will be enshrined forever as truth no matter how much evidence can be marshaled against the real culprits. We know, for example, that the US government faked an attack by Mexico on US soil in order to invade its neighbor and strip it of more than a third of its territory. We also know that the USS Maine was sabotaged by US agents in Havana harbor simply to provide an excuse to go to war against a crumbling Spain and steal the last remnants of its empire. Despite the absolute veracity of these two ruses for war, Americans continue to believe the old official story that we were attacked and went to war in self-defense. If you don't believe me, look it up in any textbook distributed to children in Texas.

Thanks, Eddie. 

Daniel Johnson June 8, 2012 12:05 pm (Pacific time)

To REB (you know who you are):

"Wilfully" and" willfully" are both correct; the first the British/Canadian spelling (see OED), the second the American. As an ethnocentric American, I wouldn't expect you to know that and am not surprised that, as an American, you shoot your mouth off before checking the accuracy of your comment.

See my "American Joke" of a couple of years ago:

Albury Smith June 8, 2012 9:28 am (Pacific time)

I see a path of evolution to 9/11 that makes a lot more sense than alternative scenarios unsupported by any motive or evidence, Tim King. It includes a 1996 fatwa:

that clearly establishes motive and intent, two suicide bombings of US embassies in Africa in 1998, the suicide attack on the USS Cole in Aden Harbor in 2000, the overwhelming evidence linking al Qaeda to the 9/11 suicide attacks themselves, and subsequent statements about them by al Qaeda operatives.


Anonymous June 8, 2012 6:34 am (Pacific time)

Ralph the world watched the 911 attack, which was pretty clear that it was well planned and carried out by Islamic terrorists. The 911 commission simply provided an outline of preceeding events. It was well-documented that the terrorists began their training and planning shortly after they tried to destroy one of the Towers in 1993. The resulting avalanche of empirical data that followed the attack reinforced what billions around the world observed. The JFK assasinination and the 911 attack are not even remotely similar. Conspiracy theorists can find a conspiracy in most anything, and the DSM has much diagnostic material on this personalty disorder.

No matter what the DSM says, there are conspiracies! Is 911 one such? There are legitimate points of view. 

Anonymous June 7, 2012 9:50 pm (Pacific time)

Bla bla bla, it's getting old.

Tim King June 7, 2012 9:15 pm (Pacific time)

I have to say that the Mossad connection seems more than plausible, I do not see another path of evolution to this brutal crime that makes more sense. 

Anonymous June 7, 2012 7:35 pm (Pacific time)

Hey Daniel, I have a god one for you, just came in my email today. Its a 5 minute quick video explaining 911 quickly and the best I have heard in awhile. Keep in mind, I knew about 911 before it happened, so I dont get too excited about new evidence, but this is a good one. p.s. thanks for posting, seems I am banned here for the most part, and all I do is research avidly, no agenda but truth etc. I am a pretty good guy is the link, 5 minutes: enjoy. Its even somewhat entertaining. James Corbett did great!

Excellent contribution. Thanks. 

Anonymous June 7, 2012 2:05 pm (Pacific time)

OTTAWA (The Borowitz Report) – The Canadian coast guard was on alert today, preparing for what it fears could be a massive invasion of boat people from Wisconsin. Conor McGlindon, commander of the Royal Canadian Mounted Coast Guard (RCMCG), said that satellite photos had revealed a “substantial flotilla” in the making, as Wisconsinites prepared to flee their state for their neighbor to the North. “Word has gotten around that we have policemen, firemen, and basic school lunches up here,” Mr. McGlindon said. “You can’t blame these boat people for seeking a better life. But we are under orders to intercept them.” In Canada, officials fear that refugees from Wisconsin will brave the treacherous journey across Lake Superior in the hopes of giving birth to so-called “anchor babies” on Canadian soil. Mr. McGlindon offered reporters a look at satellite photos showing the boat people larding their vessels with wheels of premium cheddar cheese, possibly in the hopes of bribing Canadian officials on Superior’s northern shore. “We are telling all of our men that under no circumstances should they accept offerings of cheese,” he said. ”These boat people are desperate and they will try anything.” Reports of the looming refugee crisis coincided with the release of a new poll showing that Gov. Scott Walker is now the most hated man in Wisconsin, narrowly edging Brett Favre. Speaking at the state capitol, Gov. Walker seemed philosophical about his legacy: “I’m not worried how history will remember me, because if I have my way there won’t be any history teachers.”

Ralph E. Stone June 7, 2012 6:49 am (Pacific time)

Remember the ten-month investigation by the Warren Commission, 1963–1964, which concluded that the President was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone and that Jack Ruby acted alone when he killed Oswald before he could stand trial. This is the official version of JFK's assassination and no official body is going to change these conclusions no matter what the conspiracy theorists believe. It is much the same with 9/11. We now have an official version and no official body will touch it again no matter how many conspiracy theories are put forth. But conspiracy theories do make interesting discussions because they mix the credible with the outrageous until the general public dismisses the whole subject entirely. This is how disinformation works.

Anonymous June 7, 2012 6:53 am (Pacific time)

Walker won because he represented the taxpayer, while his opponent represented the groups whose livelihoods depend on bilking the taxpayer. Please note as per bi-partisan surveys 45% of union members are conservatives. In one year Walker took a state deficit of over 3 billion dollars to a surplus. He reduced the state unemployment rate and created more "net" jobs than the Obama Administration has in nearly four years. In fact Obama has a negative job growth. We now have less workers than when Jimmy Carter was president. So what you are seeing Daniel from Governor Walker are conservative policies, like Reagan's and JFK's that work. The Wisconsin voters are majority democrat, and Walker increased his victory several percentage points over his 2010 election. Please keep in mind it was the national unions who have started all this recall, and massive spending going back to last year during their supreme court election, an the Republican won handily. When the FEC (Federal Elections Commission) completes their political donation tallies, you will see that the unions dwarfed the so-called conservative donations. By the way, in 2008 Obama spent more money than any other candidate, and he was the top receiver from Wall Street Bankers. You see those large Hollywood fund raisers for Him by those billionaires? Not much said about that, nor the MSM positive vs negative stories on democrats. No conspiracies going on with the above Daniel, just slective memory/reporting. Oh, and in the future the Wisconsin legislature re-drew their political boundaries for their legislators, so November's elections there will be a shift of even more power going to the competent. In fact that has happened in 35 of our state legislatures since the 2010 elections. All politics are local, as they say. The Tea Party is still very powerful, and has morphed into other leadership power roles.

Anonymous June 6, 2012 7:47 pm (Pacific time)

Has anyone heard the opinion of Scott Waker on this conspiracy matter? I think it would be a good one to know in that he just set lit the fuse, by whipping the millions unions used to defeat him, in beginning the complete removal of public unions, or at least turn them all into the feckless form of the federal goverment unions. Sweet moments coming, just like Canada turning more and more conservative, America has now gotten on track to remove our domestic enemies...the recall election will go down in the record books as the night “the campaign to save America” began.

 Sweet! The final gasps of worldwide marxism, and all other radical ideologies that create absurd conspiracies, are about to die in a giant whimper even before November's election. Just watch.

It's the power of money which I don't think that you, Anonymous, have any access to. You're a dupe for the Koch brothers and their ilk. Walker raised $30.5 million, two thirds of it from outside the state. Barret only raised $3.9 million, about one quarter from outside the state. It's not actually a surprise that Walker survived.

How does it feel to be a sucker for the big money interests?

Check the whole story here:

Albury Smith June 6, 2012 9:41 am (Pacific time)

Please consider my comments here and move on with a little more honesty.

I have considered your comments and you are not, in my view, an arbiter of honesty. 

Albury Smith June 6, 2012 6:04 am (Pacific time)

My stalker has joined us. He thinks your article was about me, but perhaps he could help you answer some of my June 4, 2012 7:31 am questions.

I'm not here to answer your questions. As I noted earlier, I have already moved on. 

Albury Smith June 6, 2012 5:37 am (Pacific time)

After reading that link and my comments, are you supporting, uncritically, the nonsense you've presented here? It's a yes or no question. Steven Jones presented photos of WTC columns cut with an oxyacetylene torch during the cleanup as evidence of explosives, and claims that nanothermite was painted on the steel to cut it. Ever wonder why no one's ever shown how that works on video? Cutting torches leave gray slag; explosives blow away all loose debris, and nothing painted on a vertical steel surface would do anything but flash and fall off.

debunker June 6, 2012 12:09 am (Pacific time)

albury smith trolling

Thank you. 

debunker June 6, 2012 12:04 am (Pacific time)

this video defines the likes of albury smith et al;

Anonymous June 5, 2012 6:00 pm (Pacific time)

Dan, science has beaten you buddy. There are real reasons why congress and the media, and Hollywood, leave this conspiracy carnival sideshow alone.

But I haven't been beaten by Bush/Cheney. 

Albury Smith June 5, 2012 5:42 pm (Pacific time)

I've commented on much of the material you got from those links. The fact that you find Loose Change credible pretty much says it all:
Still hoping you'll address some of my comments.

I read your link. I've moved on to other current topics. On 911, my only question to you is: Are you supporting, uncritically, the official government version? It's a yes or no question. As for Loose Change, it's the work of Steven Jones I am supporting, not necessarily the balance of the video. I also support the work of Graeme MacQueen.  That ends this for me. 

Albury Smith June 5, 2012 3:40 pm (Pacific time)

If the details, i.e. the numerous inaccuracies I've pointed out in your statements here, are only a distraction, why bother to present them at all? Since you've cited Max Cleland, would you care to tell me what he's ever disagreed with in the final 9/11 Commission Report? Please be specific. Ditto for the others closely associated with it who were critical, including Kean, Hamilton, and Farmer.
If you have time, I'd also like to know more about that faster-than-by-gravity stuff.

Did you watch any of the videos to which I supplied links?

Seems to me that you're going after the messenger, here. I suggest that at a  minimum that you watch the two MacQueen videos--total 20 minutes. And Steven Jones. Where is he wrong? See in particular: 

Albury Smith June 5, 2012 4:33 am (Pacific time)

I'm open-minded. Please address some of the questions I've posted, and perhaps we can find areas of agreement.
I noticed that you also believe that a WTC building collapse "happened faster than by gravity itself." That's provably false*, since all 3 collapses were at considerably less than g, but what technology could possibly have made that occur? What would the times have been under the NIST hypotheses?

*The WTC 7 facade collapse took ~8.5 seconds, and the towers took 15+ and 22+ seconds respectively. Free fall time from 1368' is ~9.22 seconds, and from 610' is ~6.16 seconds.

There's only one question on which we can agree or disagree; the details are only a distraction. Is the government, or some part of the government (CIA or NSA, for example) lying to the American people? It's one thing to point back to previous examples, like the Gulf of Tonkin and the babies thrown from the incubators (lies made up from whole cloth) for the first Gulf War, but are there current examples? I argue that there are: Bush and Cheney testifying in secret and not under oath and Bush just dismissing any questions that the victims' families have a right to know what was said.  Bush and Cheney were initially opposed to the creation of the 911 Commission and wanted it kept within Congress alone until Congress overruled them. Why?

What it comes down to, in my view, is: Did 19 hijackers commandeer four planes and crash them into the twin towers, the Pentagon and a field near Shanksville, just as the government contends? This, from my reading of your comments, is what you are arguing. Note that Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, charging that there was a White House cover up. True or not, that the issue itself is raised is extremely problematic, tainting the whole procedure. Note further that the Commission itself was composed almost entirely of political hacks with any member having veto control over whatever he didn't want in the report. Finally, the White House had final say on anything in the entire report itself. Most suspicious is that there were no members of the general public included and, in particular, no members who had any specific expertise to contribute.

So you either(a) uncritically believe the government on what happened that day, or (b) the whole issue requires deeper examination. I'm with (b). The details at this point are a distraction. To put things more charitably: The government has not been candid or sufficiently forthcoming with the American people.

Albury Smith June 4, 2012 7:31 am (Pacific time)

Correct; dirt and gravel would NOT turn into an equivalent sea of mud. It's very common practice in conditions like that to haul in tri-axle loads of quarry product - usually 2 or 3A modified, or 2 or 3B crushed stone, and compact it to make a temporary access road for construction operations like the ones needed to clean up and rebuild the Pentagon. What on earth do you "think" they were hiding? I know it's way too much to ask that you actually READ NCSTAR 1, 1A, 1-9, and the 9/11 Commission Report, but is it unreasonable to expect you to use a little common sense?

It's also grossly dishonest to delete my comments, which are posted here again if you'd like to correct your "oversight":

Repeating lies does not make them true, nor does calling someone a "troll."

-If there's such a "lack of public knowledge" of WTC 7, why blow it up in the first place, and who did it?

-Why would any mention of WTC 7 be included in the 9/11 Commission Report, when no other damaged or destroyed NYC building was mentioned in it, and listing all of them wasn't in the scope of the report?

-What video did Box Boy use to get 6.5 seconds for WTC 7's entire facade collapse, since none I've seen shows the bottom floors?

-Have you ever tried timing the WTC 7 facade collapse yourself?

-Can you do it to the nearest 1/10 second from any available video?

-Please link me to a C/D contractor's web site where the expression "pull it" is used to refer to explosive demolition.

-In the Silverstein quote, the FDNY "made that decision to pull," so please explain why a city fire department would secretly blow up a burning building, and why the owner would publicly disclose it.

-If Barry Jennings heard demolition explosives in WTC 7 at ~10 AM, why were LS and the FDNY discussing at ~2:30 PM WHETHER to blow it up?

-Please explain why 12 different insurance companies, at least 4 of which are foreign-based, all paid the owner or lessee a total of $4.68 BILLION if he publicly admitted to destroying his insured property.

-Why do the ASCE, AIA, and RIBA totally ignore the 9/11 "truth movement"?

-Numerous steel-framed buildings and other structures have collapsed solely from fire, and I gave you some examples. Why does that make me a "troll"?

-Why do only 3 or 4 signatories to the "firefighters" for 9/11 "truth" even CLAIM to be present or former FDNY?

-When are you going to ask the airlines involved what happened to their planes and passengers on 9/11, and question some of the thousands of other on-site eyewitnesses to the wreckage and human remains at the Pentagon and Shanksville locations after the crashes? I'll give you more contact information if you'd like.


It has become eminently clear to me that we are in a state of terminal disagreement. What I suggest is that we honourably agree to disagree. 

Anonymous June 4, 2012 5:49 am (Pacific time)

The "layer of dirt and gravel" at the Pentagon crash site is called a temporary access road [duh]. It was put there to keep the lawn from being turned into a sea of mud by the trucks and other heavy equipment brought in to clean up the debris and rebuild.
What, pray tell, did you think [for lack of a better word] it was?

Dirt and gravel would not turn into an equivalent sea of mud? Duh. 

Albury Smith June 4, 2012 5:18 am (Pacific time)

Repeating lies does not make them true, nor does calling someone a "troll."

That statement alone makes you a troll. You think you have cornered the market on truth, and that anyone who disagrees with you is "repeating lies".

Anonymous June 3, 2012 7:59 pm (Pacific time)

Most Americans with some education, does not believe the "official" version of the 9/11 tragey anyway. The question is - and has been, if we cannot believe in our own goverment, how are we going to go after THEM. Most likely, they are still among us and congratulating themselves for a job well done. Instead of demanding the truth be told, we vote for the same system with all its "Security" departments in tact. Anyone, who watched Geo Bush's face, the minute he was told of the attack,should have realized, the was NOT surprised - actually, he looked stupid - kind of out of it.

Anonymous June 3, 2012 6:49 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel: my wife had her birthday one day before mothers day. I had to come up with something. I hate birthdays and holidays, but had to do something. I spent two days working on the mechanics and cleaning her minivan, its good as new now, but guess what? Yes, I bought her a horse. She has wanted one. This horse was a bit wild, never been ridden, but when I walked out to his corral, I sang "amazing grace" to him. He is now my best friend, altho the wife is a bit upset that he likes me more, but I can fix that.:-) Anyway, great job on exposing some truth, and going to end for tonite, leaving you with a song: :-) g'night all..keep searching truth.

Anonymous June 3, 2012 6:22 pm (Pacific time)

First responders and hundreds of witnesses are on record for observing the aircraft crash into the Pentagon. Then there are tapes from several air traffic control locations showing all four aircraft crashing. Now, I dare say, you appeal to those who simply have the conspiracy itch that needs scratching.

It's all exceedingly suspicious. Why did the FBI confiscate more than 80 videotapes of the event from the immediate neighborhood and, to this day, the Department of Justice has not released a single one? Then, after the event, the whole area around the scene was buried under a layer of dirt and gravel. What is the government hiding from everyone? 

Albury Smith June 3, 2012 5:26 pm (Pacific time)

Calling me a "troll" is nothing more than a cop-out. Why won't you address any of my comments?

I addressed all your comments in my article. You're offering nothing but the same old official whitewash. 

Anonymous June 3, 2012 3:58 pm (Pacific time)

To the latest "anonymous": Gage and his "truth movement" clowns had little to no effect on the NIST reports, except to point out trivia and make a nuisance of themselves, and totally lack the qualifications for serious forensic structural engineering work. The NIST WTC investigations resulted in 40 revisions to the 2009 and 2012 I-codes, and were conducted by people with these qualifications: Get back to me when Box Boy and his so-called "engineers" even get a mention on the ASCE web site, or when his "research" is cited on his own AIA site. They're ignored by the overwhelming majority of construction professionals:

Albury Smith June 3, 2012 3:42 pm (Pacific time)

What's your motivation for making up your own "facts," and then ignoring my comments about them? If you'd like to know where the remains of the Pentagon and Shanksville planes and passengers are, have you asked American and United Airlines, or any of the many eyewitnesses who were there? Many are listed at these links:

How many of those 100+ EMTs and firefighters reported hearing demolition charges that were connected to the collapses of any of the 3 hi-rises, or were they just quote mined by the 9/11 "truth" industry for the use of the word "explosion," which described loud sounds from BLEVEs, backdrafts, fuel vapor exploding in elevator shafts, debris falling through them all the way from the impact levels to the basements, tanks and transformers blowing up, and a number of other phenomena, most of which are commonly associated with major building fires? How many who even CLAIM to be FDNY are signatories to this petition:

or are FDNY members as indifferent as those 12 insurance companies who paid Silverstein $4.68 BILLION, despite losing 343 of their close friends, relatives, and colleagues, most of them in the collapses?

Read NCSTAR 1A and 1-9 if you'd like to know what caused the collapse of WTC 7, not the 9/11 Commission Report, which didn't mention WTCs 3, 4, 5, 6, Fiterman Hall, the Deutsche Bank Building, the WFC Buildings, 90 West Street, the Verizon Building, or any others damaged or destroyed in the attacks. I did not in any way suggest that they weren't part of the attack, but like WTC 7, they were not targeted by al Qaeda, and therefore were not mentioned in that report. If you ever actually got around to reading it, you might understand this a little better.

From your comments I've come to realize you're just a troll. Unless you have something to contribute, don't bother wasting your time with further comments. You're only convincing yourself and your fellow trolls.

Anonymous June 3, 2012 3:00 pm (Pacific time)

Thanks Daniel for bringing this topic up. It is ok that some want to use government documents to prove their point when some, such as us think the government/bankers/whatever were behind it, but its ok. If you reach even one person that has an open heart to truth, you did your job. Thanks again Daniel, and its great to watch you grow in your learnings. You and I have faught much, but for some reason, I had to stick in with ya. You kinda stuck in there with me also it seems. :-) Keep up the learning my friend. Dont stop, no matter if it hurts, 911 is just the beginning.. I read something from some guy in the 16th century,I cant remember his name right now, but he said, "if you want to know the truth, forget everything you have been taught"..Time for a new thought process maybe. I feel, as tho I have been lied to all my life, whether it be our education system, government, or church pastors, I have not heard the truth, and now I long for it. Keep up the research Daniel.

Anonymous June 3, 2012 2:34 pm (Pacific time)

The government websites that ALbury wants us to visit, are owned by the people who did it. NIST? lol. That is really funny. Gage made the NIST re-write their synopsis. All proven, and on video. And "so called engineers"? please tell me Albury, how much research you did on these engineers. None probably. These engineers/architects/scientists/pilots, are all seasoned veterans who care about their family, their kids, and humanity, and are willing to give up their status to bring truth. Please Albury, send a link that shows you are learned, or any background that you may have, (besides government websites), or prove to us that you have engineering background besides being able to go to the CIA owned google websites.

Albury Smith June 3, 2012 1:43 pm (Pacific time)

Your links are to standard 9/11 "truth movement" fare that's been thoroughly debunked countless times. You state in one comment following the article that "If you depended on the 911 Commission's report, you would never know that Building 7 had collapsed," but fail to mention that the 9/11 Commission's scope did not include listing all of the NYC buildings damaged or destroyed on 9/11, and that the towers are only in the report because they were (again) the target of an al Qaeda attack—this time with airliners instead of a truck bomb. That's a transparent straw man that adds nothing to anyone's understanding of the 9/11 attacks.

I'm trying to understand your motivation in writing what you do. People have the right (see the Jesse Ventura video) to disagree with the official government version. Why do you think it important to defend the indefensible--i.e., Bush/Cheney testifying not under oath with their testimony a state secret? A plane crashed today in Nigeria and there are bodies and wreckage all over. Where are the bodies and wreckage from Shanksville and the Pentagon? What about the continuous explosions heard by more than 100 EMTs and firefighters?

You write that  "the towers are only in the report because they were (again) the target of an al Qaeda attack". That suggests that Building 7 was not part of the attack. If not, why did it collapse when there were fires on only a few of the floors. To many, 911 is too much like Gulf of Tonkin redux. I, and I'm sure many other readers, would like to know what your objective is. 

Eddie zawaski June 3, 2012 12:45 pm (Pacific time)

Two thoughts on this....... It is unfortunate that some of evidence presented by a few of the conspiracy theorists is just a bit too far out to be believable. Such efforts serve to undermine the veracity of the vast body of evidence pointing to a deliberate plan to destroy the towers by some group closely connected with either the us government and or the CIA. I get the feling that some of these theorists may actually be plants sent in to disrupt attempts to find the truth by the very people who perpetrated the crime. In short, is Alex Jones on the Bilderberg Group payroll? My other question concerns the whistleblowers. There doesn't seem to be any. If, for example, the trade center towers were brought down by expertly placed and detonated thermite charges, where are the people who placed and detonated these charges? There must have been quite a few people involved in this and. It would be extremely difficult to keep them all silent over the intervening twelve years. I wonder if anyone has made any. Effort to find some of these. People and attempt to get a confession. Please, however, don't suggest that I go out to try to get confessions from thermite bombers as I fully realize that should I find one willing to talk it would be the last thing that either of us would ever do.

Albury Smith June 3, 2012 10:14 am (Pacific time)

Loose Change is just as foolish and dishonest as any of the other 9/11 "truth" industry sources, including Gage and his so-called "engineers." If you want serious answers from honest and competent people, research the NIST reports or go to the ASCE web site and search WTC collapse-related topics.
WTC 7 was built to PANYNJ standards, not federal or NYC standards, and it's highly unlikely that any hi-rise will ever be framed with that lack of redundancy again, largely because of some of the 40 code revisions which resulted from recommendations in NCSTAR 1 and 1A:
Silverstein cited the "terrible loss of life [in the tower collapses]," and "pull it" was his agreement with the FDNY caller to abandon the firefighting effort in WTC 7 because it was becoming unstable and dangerous as a result of the fires. If you think "pull it" is used at all in reference to explosive demolition, let alone "commonly," please feel free to post a link to any C/D contractor's web site where it's ever been used that way. He also said THEY [the FDNY] "made that decision," so you're libeling the FDNY, not Larry Silverstein.
All of his 12 insurance companies, at least 4 of which are foreign-based (Copenhagen, Zurich-2 companies, London) paid huge amounts in claims for his losses on 9/11, although they amounted to well under half of his replacement costs, lost cash flow, etc., and the final settlement was ~$4.68 BILLION total, so perhaps you'd like to explain why they paid him anything at all if he publicly admitted to defrauding them? They all contested his two planes=two incidents claim, so they weren't just feeling generous. Is it possible that they're just not as smart as you are, or don't insurance companies care about losses of hundreds of millions of dollars each?

There are too many unanswered questions and too much secrecy. All you're doing is disputing, not disproving. So, you don't like Loose Change. What of all the other videos produced by others, linked at the bottom of the article? 

Anonymous June 3, 2012 8:34 am (Pacific time)

In my opinion, "loose change" is not the best to research from. I suggest Albury look up "architects for 911 truth"..Not sure if Albury is an engineer, butAE911truth has hundreds of architects/engineers/scientists/etc. that have risked their entire career, and have even lost their high position jobs to get the truth out. Steven Jones lost his job at BYU. Also look up "pilots for 911 truth", hundreds of veteran pilots speak about the planes. Building 7 was a 47 story building a block long, built to federal standards to withstand earthquakes, and even a 727 (all government documented), and all it had were some office fires. Silverstein is on video saying "just pull it".. "pull it" is a term commonly used during a demolition. The facts are overwhelming, this was not done by 19 cavemen with cellphones. The only reason people will overlook the blantent facts, is because they are afraid. If their own government, who they thought were taking care of them all this time, did something this horrific, it scares the heck out of them, and their mind just wont see the truth..Sorta like the "stockholm syndrom" Look it up. Those who we tell to research? 95% of them wont, because they dont want to know the truth. To be honest, there are times when I wish I did not know the truth, and I would just be, (as Jackson Brown notes in his song),I'll be a happy idiot, struggling for the legal tender. Problem with that is, what is coming from these same people who did this, is going to be horrific, no matter what you believe. If you think trusting them is going to keep your current lifestyle, you are going to be highly disappointed. The police that protect the elite at protests, dont even know that those who they are protecting them, are not only going to steal their pension plans, but throw them to the dirt when they are done with them.

Anonymous June 3, 2012 6:57 am (Pacific time)

Pretty easy to alter video. There will never be witness proof to verify a conspiracy because they do not exist.

Albury Smith June 3, 2012 6:44 am (Pacific time)

The facade collapse of WTC 7 took ~8.5 seconds, and is impossible to determine to the nearest 1/10 second because of buildings in the foreground that block the view of the bottom floors, and later in the collapse because of dust clouds that also make it impossible to see when it stopped. 6.5 seconds is not a "fact"; it's a fabrication being presented by you as fact. You also failed to explain why WTC 7 was allegedly demolished with these imaginary, evidence-free explosives if so few people even know about it. Another of your "facts" is that "there has never been a steel building in history that has collapsed from fire." WTC 7 was the only HI-RISE that's ever collapsed solely from fire—for reasons that are fully explained in NCSTAR 1A and 1-9—but fireproofing of steel is mandated in building codes for a reason, and it's not uncommon for steel-framed buildings to collapse solely from fire:

Albury Smith June 3, 2012 5:04 am (Pacific time)

If there's such a "lack of public knowledge" of WTC 7, what was the point of secretly blowing it up, something that would have been impossible to do anyway? Timing collapses to divine their causes is pure lunacy, but how did this "researcher" come up with 6.5 seconds for WTC 7, right to the nearest 1/10 second, no less? The bottom floors aren't visible in any collapse video, but the facade obviously took closer to 8.5 seconds to come down, and the top 242' of the 610' building, i.e. the part that can actually be seen, was very accurately timed in 5.4 seconds. The only thing here that's "beyond doubt" is that Daniel Johnson is grossly dishonest.

I didn't time it or make it up. More than one source in the videos presented that fact. Others have invested thousands of hours in researching 911 and I merely summarized. Watch some of the videos, or if just one, say "Loose Change", then write back. 

f39pw June 1, 2012 5:42 pm (Pacific time)

God sees all, and in His time, will punish the wrongdoers if they do not repent and confess.

Anonymous June 1, 2012 11:36 am (Pacific time)

Too many unanswered questions and too many secrets.

Anonymous June 1, 2012 9:47 am (Pacific time)

Bilderberg group meeting update: they want Ron Paul dead. A couple years ago, they disliked him, but now they are very upset and want him dead. The inside info I get from bilderberg group over the last decade has been 100% accurate. They could get away with killing JFK, but if they kill Ron Paul, you will see civil war in the U.S. and the group knows this. They want Ron Paul, and his supporters dead. I kid you not.

Anonymous June 1, 2012 9:18 am (Pacific time)

Luke don't you mean Clinton? He was running things during the 1993 bombing of the Towers. He was president when the planning and training was going on by the hijackers. He controlled all the intelligence agencies, so why did he fail us by not stopping the attack? Is it because the second in command at the Justice Department, under Janet Reno, stopped these agencies from sharing info? Yeah, Clinton is the responsible party. He also has at 3 opportunities to kill Osama. Blaming Bush is pretty standard for those who cannot lead, thus even today a few minutes ago with unemployment ticking up, Obama was still blaming Bush.

Rob D May 31, 2012 8:28 pm (Pacific time)

When was the last time an insurence company paid a claim on an act of war? Yet the owner received 1 billion over the price paid for the building and wanted more.

Luke Easter May 31, 2012 8:20 pm (Pacific time)

If you admit it's an inside job then there's no reason for G.W. to attone for the dimwittedness of G.H. and Haliburton doesn't make billions in profits and... Well, you get the picture.

Anonymous May 31, 2012 2:10 pm (Pacific time)

Bilderberg meeting first day. 1. Continue dollar de-value and blame it on China.(hyper inflation coming). Push Greece/Spain for more austerity. 3. Preparing for an economic tragedy soon that will make 2008 look like a picnic. 4: bank runs. Iran and Syria will be discussed this weekend. You dont have to believe me, but when you see the dollar collapse in the near future, remember the above words. And then, remember this: If they can/will destroy the world thru banking, fukishima,(I would not go near fish/tuna that came from the pacific) BP, etc., but mostly thru banking, then they can easily pull off a 911. As mentioned, dont believe me now, just watch for it and remember this post. As the title says, its beyond no doubt that 911 was an inside job. And may I add, osama died in 2001. And, as I said many years ago, the police state, TSA etc. were not for muslim extremists, there are none really, it was for people such as myself that are awake, and will not be a slave to the evil bankers. Obama/Romney and all the rest are all bought and paid for by the bankers, and Ron Paul is our only chance.

Anonymous May 30, 2012 8:32 pm (Pacific time)

Here is a video from a former CIA operative that casts new perspective:

Anonymous May 30, 2012 4:16 pm (Pacific time)

Farrakhan is a CIA/Mossad asset. The same as osama bin laden, and al CIAda. They use these people to keep up the fear of terror, to give up our rights, and be afraid. Dear Lord, do some research anon!!!!!! Oh, and in all the excitement, I forgot to mention how much I appreciate Daniel writing this article. We have had our ups and downs, but this is an up! Thanks.

Anonymous May 30, 2012 4:11 pm (Pacific time)

Steven Jones is great. And Daniel, many of us found out that people, even those who do some research did not know about building 7. In fact, there is a documentary out there called "building what?". I have used building 7 as the smoking gun in many of my blogs. The reason for 911 is simple. The patriot act was written long before 911. They just needed some way to implement it. The plans to invade Iraq were before 911, they needed a way to implement it. Silverstein, who is a Bush buddy, bought the towers with insurance in case of a terror attack, and the towers needed 70 million dollars in taking the asbestos out. The facts that the government story is false is overwhelming. The reason poeple dont want to believe it is simple. It scares them. Many get their living off the government, and will not even think about biting the hands that feed them (all planned), and some, like my brother who saw his friends die in wars, cannot accept that the wars were for empire building and enslaving..not for our freedom. i know this talk is a bit foreign to many, but I just share what I have learned over the decades, and I have no agenda but trying to get truth out. The de-bunking stories about those who dont believe the official story, are a joke. They are made for people who cant handle the truth.. propaganda. For instance, I remember when the major de-bunk story came out high on the CIA owned google list. It was written by Popular Science, owned by none other than than Hearst, another Bush buddy. How convenient huh?

Anonymous May 30, 2012 3:02 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel there may be more layers to these 911 conspiracies. Possibly another force/power was manipulating us rubes? Here, from a religious leader who has

literally hundreds of thousands of followers, maybe over one million. "Allah Will ‘Bring Down’ America’s Skyscrapers: Horrific New Farrakhan Audio Praising

Sharia Law and Threatening ‘Death’ Unless ‘America Submits’...•Farrakhan erupts in fervent conclusion to nearly three-hour speech
•Speaks favorably of sharia law and seems highlights violent actions within it
•Says that if the U.S. bombs Iran, Allah will “take out” U.S. cities “with earthquakes”
•Farrakhan promises that Allah will “kill a lot” and bring calamity until “America submits” "


Allah doesn't sound very nice. I wonder why he's so miserable. 

Ralph E. Stone May 30, 2012 7:58 am (Pacific time)

Interesting article. I am not sure there is anything new. I remember in 2006, I heard a very compelling presentation by Steven Jones, a physics professor at BYU totally debunking the "official' version. You can probably find some of his interviews on Youtube. Jones was ultimately forced to retire from BYU because he pushed his views too hard and "embarrassed" the university.

Nothing really new unless a person has relied entirely on the msm for a point of view.As part of my searching I was amazed to learn that a lot of people know nothing about Building 7.

Anonymous May 30, 2012 6:26 am (Pacific time)

Daniel I admire your passion, and good luck with your mission here.

Thank you. 

Dark Night of the Soul May 29, 2012 10:36 pm (Pacific time)

Perhaps we need not be asking if it was inside job, but WHY and for what specific reason it was an inside job? And also, why..we have an open southern border where anyone and everyone can come across virtually undetected and yet United States citizens are being groped and scanned in air terminals like cattle, and our government has now announced that 30,000 surveillance drones will be flying over American cities and homes. And it is believed that soon, manned drones will be flying over American cities and homes. Feel safe yet?

Why did it happen? I'm with David Ray Griffith who said"911 was a false flag operation intended to authorize the doctrines and funds for a new level of imperial mobilization" 

Tim King May 29, 2012 9:42 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel, the video with Jesse Ventura is outstanding!

Anonymous May 29, 2012 8:45 pm (Pacific time)

I understand Anon at 1:13..when I saw it actually happen, and then a few weeks of research, I was sickened beyond belief for months. But then again, they bombed a peaceful place called Libya, paying al ciada (I thought alquada was our enemy)?, to rebel in Libya pretending to be protesters, so that the west could bomb them into oblivion, start a civil war, and take their resources. How about Bill Gates? Vaccinations that paralyzed 50,000...Its called Eugenics, they want us all dead. How about pharma drugs that kill 100, 00 people a year, but marijuana, which harms NO one, is illegal? Its because they run drugs and weapons, all proven. As mentioned, people best wake up to these evil friggin bankers who are trying to control the world, and make us slaves, or kill us. It is now PROVEN that their are indoctrination camps, police are being federalized, pastors from churches are being trained to teach their flock to obey the government etc. I could go on all day. Its here..and no country is immuned. Look what is happening in Quebec, MAJOR police state. You should research the U.N documents/writings in regards to Agenda 21, because Agenda 21 is happening NOW.

D. Fredricks May 29, 2012 8:36 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel, your tin foil is slipping.

Anonymous May 29, 2012 8:32 pm (Pacific time)

I knew it was going to happen two months before it happened.I did not know WHEN, but I knew it was coming. It was CIA and Mossad and possibly Saudi Arabia. The underwear bomber was set up by the CIA, the same as them all. People dont know that the west, including Canada/Australia/England, are all controlled by bankers/Rothchilds/Rockefellers/etc. If you think THIS is scary, wait until you learn the real truth what is going on. Those in control (not president of U.S., not the senate/congress), but psychopathic, pediphile bankers who want to either kill us or control us. Their words, not mine. The Bilderberg group is meeting this week. When I first started talking about the Bilderberg group 10 years ago, I was called "tin foil hat", then the mainstream had to finally admit it. Then they said, "its just a bunch of people getting together to talk" yeah right, they dictate world policy. I will write again when I get the usual inside info from their meeting. This is why salem-news should not ban my posts, I know quite a bit, and my accuracy rating is close to 100%. Be careful in regards to all the rumors..a missile hit the pentagon, or the planes were missiles etc. To be honest, I have very little info on exactly what happened, but it doesnt matter, I just know who did it. It was not 19 cavemen. You should view the video "endgame by alex jones". Its free, just youtube it. People best wake up.

Anonymous May 29, 2012 6:14 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel this is old news, literally everything you listed, and much more has been addressed by an assortment of professional debunkers. I appreciate the passion behind people who advocate a "re-evaluation" and must admit I found some of the ways that the different info was put together as quite clever, but please keep in mind that it is not the melting point of the various metals of the superstructure, but their "softening Point", which even at relatively low temperatures, load capacity can be reduced by 50% in a pretty quick time frame, depending on different variables. Keep in mind that there were intense and growing winds. As far as the 911 Commission report, there were many addendums provided, and many were not made public because of national security reasons. There are very strict laws that preclude various officials from discussing issues that deal with security concerns. And of course that is public knowledge, but still some people still use that as part of their conspiracy theory that people are being evasive, or lying by omission. With 535 members of congress, and some who really don't seem to be concerned about their views, you would think someone would introduce a bill to have another investigation? Not going to happen, because they are also privy to intelligence that will not be made public for many years, if not decades.

National security is just a euphemism for secrets to keep the sheep docile and in line. In one video I watched, a man at a hearing pointed out that the names of some doners was not classified so the committee member said he would supply the names, but he didn't have them with him and would supply them the next day. Well, lo and behold, the next day the Bush administration classified the list. of doners. 

Were you aware that both Bush and Chenety called Tom Daschele opposing a 911 commission, wanting to keep the investigation within Congress, which was more manageable? A year later Congress passed the 911 Commission bill and Bush had no choice but to sign it into law.

For every "answered" question about 911, there are dozens of unanswered questions, not even taking into account the contradictions and anomalies. 

Anonymous May 29, 2012 5:46 pm (Pacific time)

I'm not easily frightened, but this is a scary story.

Anonymous May 29, 2012 1:03 pm (Pacific time)

Daniel have you ever been in the military? If so did you specialize in both "Intellience and Counter-Intelligence Gathering/Interpretation"? Did you have a Top Secret Clearance, and not just one based on "The need to Know"? One can create literally any kind of scenario one wants to regarding the 911 scenario, which would include the use of professional engineers, in which many would provide any number of conclusions. Of course when one throws in the "softening Point" of the metals that were impacted by the crashes and the increasing heat temperatures, reasonable thinkers would then see the conspiracy theories fall away. Then we have had nearly 11 years go by, and we see rehash after rehash of conspiracy theories by people essentially not grounded in science, nor informed about what happened/reported by the 911 Commission...which determined that the planning and training of the 911 crimes happened under the Clinton Regime. Literally not one person of any credibility has come forward to say they were part of some conspiracy in this attack, not one. So how many hundreds, even thousands, of people would it have taken? Are the hundreds of Flight Controllers and their taped documentation all riminally involved? Were all those witnesses at the Pentagon involved. All those personnel who were below Bldg 7 who reported the foundation was crumbling and melting away lying? There are real reasons why certain info has not been made public, and those trained in counter-intelligence are keenly aware of that reality. Conspiracy theorists have their misguided beliefs, and most likely very little else, like a thinking process.

Except for the twin towers and building 7,there has never been a steel building in history that has collapsed from fire. And, have you ever seen pictures of a plane crash like the one at Shanksville that leaves almost nothing behind except a hole in the ground. If you depended on the 911 Commission's report, you would never know that Building 7 had collapsed. And explosions in the basement of the second tower before the plane hit. . Watch some of the videos. Might open your mind. And if it doesn't change your mind, then you'll have more information to bolster your current point of view. Or are you afraid?

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