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Polls: Clinton Solid in Kentucky; Oregon is Obama's in Tight Race

Two States Worlds Apart on Obama Popularity.

Hillary and Barack
Hillary and Barack

(BOSTON) - Two states. Two Democratic Primaries on the same night. And the differences in the contests are like night and day, according to a Suffolk University poll.

In Kentucky, Hillary Clinton (51 percent) led Barack Obama (25 percent) by 26 points, followed by John Edwards (6 percent) and "uncommitted" (5 percent), while 11 percent were undecided.

In Oregon, Obama (45 percent) led Clinton (41 percent) by 4 points, with 8 percent undecided and 6 percent refusing a response.

"With the nominating contest winding down, it's unusual - to say the least - to have two states' polls literally poles apart," said David Paleologos, director of the Political Research Center at Boston's Suffolk University. "And I don't think I've ever seen such a disparity in a presidential candidate's popularity from state to state."

The most dramatic difference was in Obama's personal popularity. In Kentucky, Obama was recording favorability similar to his rating in West Virginia, with a 43 percent favorable rating and a 43 percent unfavorable rating. (In West Virginia, Obama had 44 percent favorable and 41 percent unfavorable ratings and lost by 41 points to Clinton.) Yet Obama's popularity soars in Oregon, where 73 percent view him favorably and 15 percent unfavorably.

"Usually when a candidate has a high favorability, it trends high nationally, with limited variations regionally. Here, when you get to states like Kentucky and West Virginia, there's a kind of political inelasticity or unwillingness to replicate Obama's popularity elsewhere."

Both Beaver and Bluegrass voters predict that Obama will be the next president. In Kentucky, 41 percent of Democratic voters said Obama would be the next president, followed by Republican John McCain (25 percent), Clinton (13 percent), and 20 percent undecided. In Oregon, 59 percent said Obama, 11 percent indicated Clinton, 9 percent chose McCain, and 20 percent were undecided.

Kentucky voters, asked which candidate was more electable against McCain, chose Clinton (46 percent) over Obama (39 percent). In Oregon, the numbers more than reversed, with 52 percent answering Obama and 28 percent, Clinton.

Kentucky and Oregon expressed differing degrees of loyalty.

Asked what they would do if their first choice for the Democratic nomination lost, 41 percent of Kentucky Democratic voters said they would still vote for the Democratic nominee; 28 percent said they would jump parties and vote for McCain; 4 percent would vote for independent candidate Ralph Nader; and 24 percent were undecided.

By contrast, Oregon Democratic loyalty ran very strong. Fifty-nine percent of respondents said they would still vote for the Democratic nominee; 19 percent said they would vote for McCain; 5 percent would vote for Nader; and 13 percent were undecided.

The Suffolk University bellwethers of Montgomery County, Kentucky, and Marion County, Oregon, which were sister-tests to the statewide surveys, followed the same trend.

In Montgomery County, Clinton led Obama by 28 points, closely mirroring the statewide Kentucky poll (Clinton - 55 percent to Obama - 17 percent, followed by Kentucky ballot options "uncommitted," 5 percent and Edwards, 3 percent, with 14 percent undecided and 7 percent refused.

In Marion County, Obama led Clinton 44 percent to 42 percent, with 8 percent undecided and 6 percent refused. This confirms the single-digit close race in Oregon recorded by the statewide poll.

"Obama's early mail-in voting advantage may be the difference in this close race."

Since the bellwether predictor module was incorporated as a sister-test to the Suffolk statewide polling, no actual election result has run counter to the winners of the statewide poll and the bellwether, when both tests have agreed. When the two tests disagree, the bellwether test(s) have oftentimes been more accurate.

Both bellwether counties' election returns from both parties have been within 5 percent of the actual statewide Primary results in years where an incumbent U.S. president has not been on the ballot.

The Suffolk University polls were conducted May 17th - 18th, 2008. The margin of error on the statewide surveys of 600 is +/- 4.00 percent at a 95 percent level of confidence. All respondents from the statewide surveys were likely voters in the May 20 respective Democratic Presidential Primaries. Marginals and cross-tabulation data will be posted on the Suffolk University Political Research Center Web site - www.suffolk.edu/college/1450.html -- on May 19th.

The Suffolk University election predictor bellwether ID sister-tests (300 contacts, Montgomery County and 149 contacts, Marion County) were made May 18th. There was an equal probability of contacting and interviewing likely Democratic voters, provided that they identified themselves as very likely or somewhat likely to take a Democratic ballot on Tuesday. For more information, contact David Paleologos at 781-290-9310.

Source: Suffolk University




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Sue May 20, 2008 10:18 am (Pacific time)

Let's go all you Oregonians! Let's put the 1st woman in the White House! It's time for one and Hillary is our gal! She will fight for us just like she is doing in this campaign. Let's not let her down. WOMAN POWER 08'! GO HILLARY!


Maggie M May 20, 2008 8:27 am (Pacific time)

I told many friends years ago if people keep demonizing most anything it will backfire, and below is clearly the case. This increased viewing will no doubt have a significant effect on this election. Maybe it's just best to let sleeping dogs lie, and let events unfold naturally. "Presidential historian Sean Wilentz—who’s also a New Republic contributing editor, Bob Dylan enthusiast, and prominent Clinton backer—talked to MarketWatch about campaign coverage. And like many Clinton supporters these days, he didn't shower praise on CNN or MSNBC. [Wilentz] said the best coverage by far came from the Fox News Channel. Wilentz observed that Karl Rove, contributor to Fox News and architect of Bush's two successful presidential campaigns, among others, had sounded "very, very knowledgeable." "What it showed is that the reporting of politics doesn't have to be bad," Wilentz said. "If you respect your audience without a partisan imperative, then you can have some sophisticated reporting." Wilentz now joins Fox-loving Clintonites like Ed Rendell, Terry McAuliffe, and Lanny Davis."


Henry Ruark May 19, 2008 1:54 pm (Pacific time)

Sarah B et al: Yes-that's what reporters do, esp. if diligent, devoted and dedicated --and if you work in journalism very long, all are demanded or you get the h... out !! All too true for education, too, as I found out in equally painful circumstance, with both M.Ed OSU and 3-yr EdDabd at Indiana U. What's your preparation to be so demanding of "right to speak" or write ? Do you dare challenge any of the facts I have supplied ? If so, ID-self to Editor Tim for direct contact with much more detail and sources, and bring your own. if you have any. We can exchange both content and sources for a comparable check on realities. My journalistic record is right ou there for all to see, in Staff section. What's yours ? Lay it on the line here and now if you can can do so, since your comment challenges my integrity and my assigned role at S-N. Perhaps I should be thanking you for evidence of at least some impact, but that fact means nothing to me since role implies that it should, could and will --if I do things right !--surely occur. Long ago I lost any allure to seeing my by-line; after the first thousand or so, it wears thin, and what kicks in is fact people really read and then learn, and sometimes even THINK ! (either before or after they write comments !!) That's real compensation for any efforts here, thank you very much.


Sarah B May 19, 2008 12:30 pm (Pacific time)

Having read a number of posts from several stories Obama seems to have one main supporter on here posting over and over:Henry Ruark. I have heard the polls are much tighter here in Oregon than they were even a week ago. That shows me that people are paying attention to who does and does not have the answers. I personally applaud Hillary. She is everything a President should be: Smart, logical, calm in the middle of a firestorm, and someone who doesn't give up on the country she cares about. Hillary is not a quitter and that is a virtue I want in my President. Go Hillary!


Henry Ruark May 19, 2008 12:16 pm (Pacific time)

andersen/stan et al: What you state reflects heavy drive to manipulate Oregon vote from "outside sources" --clearly reflected right here in S-N in last few days. That reality should make all think-twice about WHY it is now so dangerously demanded on national basis by those still promoting candidacy collapsing of own weight on past far from perfect record as it becomes widely appreciated. Unless and until you live here and listen everywhere to most Oregonians, you cannot really know or possibly understand the depth and dangerous level of rejection now underway here. We need no c-baggers from outside sources to shape up our minds for us here...as you will soon see for sure.


Stan May 19, 2008 11:45 am (Pacific time)

Let's see how smart the oregon people are... if they go for obama they are pretty ignorant. only time will tell. Hillary is the only thinking man's choice...


andersen May 19, 2008 11:05 am (Pacific time)

Senator Clinton has the popular vote and the crucial swing states to win in November. Only 22% voted early in Oregon. The gap is narrowing perhaps because many Oregonians have paid attention even though the media and the pundits have tried to push Senator Clinton out. She prevails. Perhaps they don't want to vote for someone who voted FOR liquified natural gas facilities along the Oregon coastlline. That would be Obama. Senator Clinton voted against it. Oregonians are smart people, many are not buying the hype. This is not over unless and until all votes are counted in all 50 states. That is the Democratic way.

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