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Jun-11-2010 11:30TweetFollow @OregonNews Arizona's Illegal Immigration ProblemErsun Warnke Salem-News.com Business/Economy ReporterThe history of illegal immigration and illegal war in the South-Western states is an interesting and informative one.
(EUGENE, Ore.) - Arizona Senate Bill 1070 has gained the State a great deal of attention recently. Typically, no one would care about the pronouncements of the so called government of that backwater hell hole, but the sheer Nazism of the law was enough to perk even international interest. The normally subdued Economist led with the headline “Hysterical Nativism.” I had the dubious pleasure of living in Phoenix for a bit during the boom years of the Bush era. At the time, downtown Phoenix was a wasteland. The Circle K kept an armed guard at the door around the clock; cab drivers wouldn’t go there after dark; and the police only moved in packs, frequently supported by helicopters. Arizona has been a police state for some time now. They are just now getting around to codifying it. Look up Joe Arpaio if you want any evidence on this. [Arpaio’s more notorious acts include framing a bar owner who publicly criticized him on an assault charge, and then trying to frame him with a falsified positive test for methamphetamine while he was incarcerated, according to the Phoenix New Times] Chief among Arizona’s problems, and the problems of Phoenix in particular, are greed and stupidity. The greed has to do with ripping off billions upon billions of dollars from the American taxpayers, by way of a whole lot of bad loans, in order to build an enormous city in the middle of a desert. The stupidity has to do with finding millions of people desperate enough to buy into that fraud. The other aspect of greed in Arizona has to do with the traffic in drugs, guns, and immigrant labor. I guarantee that if you look at any major businessman or politician in Arizona, you won’t have to connect many dots before you connect them to money from one of these illegal trades. The only exceptions might be a few who were making so much money off of real estate scams that they didn’t even bother with drugs. The same could of course be said of Texas and Florida (I wonder what those two States have in common?), but Arizona is certainly in the running for having the most brazenly criminal political and business community. Where else did the Senior Senator get his start in politics by marrying into a mafia family? One that got started distributing illegal drugs - alcohol during the prohibition - none the less. There is a blackly comedic Dante-esque quality to the drug traffic in Arizona. The same wholesalers import and distribute cocaine, methamphetamine, and heroin (probably not so much now thanks to Afghanistan). They then divide these drugs up into different targeted markets. Powdered cocaine for the rich whites, methamphetamine for the poor whites, and crack and heroin for the mostly black and brown street consumers. In the parlance of corporate consultants, this is called profit maximization through market segmentation and product differentiation. In practice, this means that the thriving neo-Nazi gangs in Phoenix, which are financed with the proceeds from methamphetamine sales, are salesmen working for a different division of the same corporation that employs their racially impure antagonists. The fact that their managers are Hispanic doesn’t seem to bother these people too much. Apparently apocalyptic race war and the ultimate Aryan victory can wait when there’s some meth to be sold. I mention the drug market in Arizona because it isn’t really possible to understand how political corruption works without understanding how the drug trade works. The wonderful thing about having something be “illegal” is that you don’t have to pay taxes on any of your income, and consequently, you don’t have to account for any of the money derived from this illegal activity. Having drugs “illegal” also exempts manufacturers and distributors from product liability laws and consumer lawsuits, without which it would be impossible to run a wholesale drug distribution corporation of any significant scale. The final essential aspect of drug prohibition is that it puts the government in a position to give certain distributors monopolies, and monopoly profits, by selectively enforcing drug laws. All of this comes full circle when the organizations that import and distribute drugs accumulate large piles of unaccountable cash, which they are then free to distribute to anybody who can continue to guarantee their monopoly status. The drug business is not huge compared to other corporate giants, but it is probably worth a few billions of dollars in profits per year. The major perk of this money is that it is totally free from accounting, oversight, and taxation. On a side note, hedge funds are exempt from the reporting requirement on financial transactions over $10,000 dollars. Obviously no drug dealer would want to earn 20-30% annual returns investing in fraudulent financial schemes run out of front companies in the Cayman Islands that pay no taxes and have no financial reporting requirements. Does some of this money wind up funding mercenary armies fighting illegal wars? Who knows. Hard to say. It isn’t on paper anywhere, and the people who could testify to it are either dead or working for Fox News. May as well close the book on that one. If so, that was all in the past. Now we have reputable mercenaries, working for companies like DynCorp and Blackwater, who are leading the fight against illegal drugs. In fact, DynCorp was so successful in Columbia (If by success you mean increasing cocaine and heroin production) that they were contracted to move their highly successful operations to Afghanistan, where results have been even more impressive. Illegal drugs, illegal wars, and illegal immigration. Arizona does ‘em all, and they have a rich historical legacy in this department. Arizona, like Texas, New Mexico, and California, used to be Mexico. The illegal immigrants in Texas were mostly Southern slaveholders. They moved West to Texas, and beyond, after depleting and overpopulating the land that they originally stole from the natives farther East. Conveniently, your average whiskey tango Texas or Arizona resident doesn’t know a history book from their ass, and probably couldn’t read it even if they did. Little details like who is really an illegal immigrant tend to slip by them. Who needs books when you got guns? Indeed. The Mexican-American war was fought between 1846 and 1848. It began, more-or-less, as a result of Southern slaveholders in Texas revolting against the Mexican government. At the time, Abraham Lincoln gave a speech in which he sarcastically debunked President James Polk’s supposed grounds for war, which were that: “the Mexican Government not only refused to receive him, [the envoy of the United States,] or listen to his propositions, but, after a long-continued series of menaces, has at last invaded our territory and shed the blood of our fellow-citizens on our own soil.” Lincoln introduced the “spot resolutions,” in which he asked that Polk answer the following questions, among others: “1st. Whether the spot on which the blood of our citizens was shed, as in his messages declared, was or was not within the territory of Spain, at least after the treaty of 1819, until the Mexican revolution.” President Polk responded to the criticisms of his illegal aggressive war against Mexico by accusing his opponents of treason, saying that: “A more effective means could not have been devised to encourage the enemy and protract the war than to advocate and adhere to their cause, and thus give them ‘aid and comfort.’” On January 3, 1848, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a resolution censuring President Polk, and declaring the Mexican-American war to be unnecessary and unconstitutional. Abraham Lincoln further elaborated on President Polk’s war claims, saying that his style of argument was reminiscent of the “half insane excitement of a fevered dream,” and declaring that Polk “talked like an insane man.” Lincoln strongly opposed allowing Presidents to declare war at will, viewing this as an essential function of Congress for good reason. Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose — and you allow him to make war at pleasure. The history of illegal immigration and illegal war in the South-Western states is an interesting and informative one. It should not be forgotten that the criminals in high places in Arizona and Texas are the descendents and inheritors of a legacy and tradition of thievery, slavery, warfare and criminality. These traitors masquerading as patriots declared war against their fellow citizens once, and it was only with great hardship and loss of life that their rebellion was suppressed. Arizona has an illegal immigrant problem. It is true that these illegal immigrants are involved in or profit from the illegal drug trade, investment fraud, illegal labor practices, and trafficking in humans and weapons, amongst other criminal activities. It is also true that some of these illegal immigrants are highly recognizable figures in the Arizona business and political communities. Lincoln Spot Resolutions: sewanee.edu/faculty/Willis/Civil_War/documents/LincolnSpot.html Summary of Mexican-American War Political Wrangling: loc.gov/law/help/usconlaw/pdf/Mexican.war.pdf Salem-News.com Business/Economy Reporter Ersun Warncke is a native Oregonian. He has a degree in Economics from Portland State University and studied Law at University of Oregon. At a young age, his career spans a wide variety of fields, from fast food, to union labor, to computer programming. He has published works concerning economics, business, government, and media on blogs for several years. He currently works as an independent software designer specializing in web based applications, open source software, and peer-to-peer (P2P) applications. Ersun describes his writing as being "in the language of the boardroom from the perspective of the shop floor." He adds that "he has no education in journalism other than reading Hunter S. Thompson." But along with life comes the real experience that indeed creates quality writers. Right now, every detail that can help the general public get ahead in life financially, is of paramount importance. You can write to Ersun at: warncke@comcast.net Articles for June 10, 2010 | Articles for June 11, 2010 | Articles for June 12, 2010 | ||
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bill murry August 31, 2010 2:46 pm (Pacific time)
i think that they should become more sufficient and start asking for papers
bill murry August 31, 2010 2:43 pm (Pacific time)
i think that they should become more sufficient and start asking for papers
A Texan June 11, 2010 4:22 pm (Pacific time)
"The Mexican-American war was fought between 1846 and 1848. It began, more-or-less, as a result of Southern slaveholders in Texas revolting against the Mexican government."
There was also the renowned high handedness of the Mexican government. If you would have consulted more than a single source you might know there was more to it.
And as far as insulting anyone from the South, how dare you? I know enough to read a history book, and your article and I am very insulted. Perhaps you need to stop being predjudiced against the people of your own nation. You seem to forget, you are posting this on the Web, not your own facebook page. That enables you to be thought of as a strange jerk nationwide.
You are a fine example of a liberal young mind educated far beyond your intellectual capacity.
Tim King: You are so out of your league, living in that un-American redneck racist state of Texas. Criminal bush filth emerges there, don't you know that? Wars that are so hideous that someday all we will do is seek to forget, are born in Texas. You think people should just be nationalists, is that it?
I'll insult the masses of racists in the south too, you are are a sorry lot for the most part. I met some pretty cool people in the south, though they were almost all black. Some of the females were friendly, but then why wouldn't they be to a west coast war photographer. Great break from all of the inbred morons walking around with their loser confederate flags. Hey, all the class of a Nazi right?) Funny thing is they are easy to mess with, fun to laugh at, etc. But in Vietnam southern rednecks, I have been told by very reputable sources, were almost always the source of the really brutal crimes against Vietnamese, particularly the sex crimes and just overall murder of civilians. Yeah, we really think a lot of the racist white south, I just can't hide it. So is 'strange-jerk' some kind of a southern slang reference? I am just curious.
Don June 13, 2010 12:19 pm (Pacific time)
Ersun thank you for your response. Though I must take issue with your comment that all illegals are hired by Americans. As you are most likely aware, we have a huge underground economy, which is quickly growing. Within that unregugulated economy are various businesses that are owned by illegals, who hire other illegals. These are not just landscaping business entities, many are construction jobs ranging from roofs to foundations and all those inbetween, and many other types of businesses. Our government officals need to be tasked to verify citizenship (or other lawful rights have been met) before issuing permits, or any other offical authorizations. I have heard some contractors in my area have been investigating the possibility of taking legal action against various government officals ranging from mayors, police, DA's and others to get them to see that only properly licensed contractors are out there. If the lawsuits are thrown out, likely, then there is another way of doing it. Start marching 24/7 around the private residences of these officals until they start observing the need to follow the laws. If they get an injuction to stop the marching, that will invite even more attention to this matter. The other day I took out bids for some carpet cleaning by calling four different companies listed in the yellow pages (all had state contract numbers listed), and two out of the four could barely speak english. Were they illegals? It was the lowest bidders who had very little english skills. I hired neither, though I frankly doubt that low bidders get much rejection for this type of work. We have American citizens being seriously harmed economically by illegal contractors, besides all the rest of us taxpayers that are footing the bill for illegals because our elected officals have failed doing their jobs. I just find it amazing how the majority of citizens are being ignored on this matter. There is some serious anger out there, and it's growing. The Arizona legislation is a fuse that's burning...
Anonymous June 12, 2010 2:22 pm (Pacific time)
This land belonged to the native American Indians before anybody else, the Spaniards came and tortured my forefathers and made slaves out of them and brought disease to them, raped and killed them, so where did the Mexicans come from, that first stole the land from the Native American Indians, do your homework, they are called mestizos,who are Spaniards and Aztecs, they had no rightful claim to this land in the first place. I'm getting sick and tired of people who claim that we took the land from the Mexicans, they can go home and fix their own country.
Ersun Warncke June 12, 2010 12:44 pm (Pacific time)
Don, I do not disagree with most of what you are saying. As you will notice, I did not make any claims in my article about Mexicans having a claim to the Southwestern States. I merely related a verbatim historical account from one of our country's most esteemed statesmen as to how that land was obtained. I am citing this history not as evidence that we should give this land to Mexico, but merely to give some insight into how the families of long established power in those State think and act. I also raise the point of corruption in the business and political classes of these States, because this is a crucial factor. Illegal immigration and drug running is sanction, supported, and profited from at the highest levels of political and corporate management. The evidence for this is overwhelming. Consequently, I do not adopt the "blame the immigrant" approach. I blame the people who profit from these illegal activities, and who write the laws in a way that allows them to avoid legal culpability for massive crimes while they punish others for comparatively minor crimes. I say that if you favor enforcing the law, which I most certainly do, then you should adopt the approach of handling the most serious crimes first. Since every single illegal immigrant worker is being employed by an American Citizen, I would advocate cleaning our own house first, and imposing real penalties on employers who use illegal labor. Getting rid of NAFTA and these other "free trade" policies would help to address some of the long term economic forces that both drive people off their land in Mexico and Central/South America, and deprive Americans of meaningful employment opportunities. Ending the prohibition on drugs, which would result in the collapse of the drug cartels, and allow coca, poppy, and marijuana to be used in regulated medicinal products, would also dramatically decrease the money flowing to criminal organizations, and give farmers in both South America and Afghanistan legitimate markets for what should be valuable crops. This of course would interfere with the profits of synthetic drug manufacturers, and other junk hustlers, but it would be of enormous benefit to the rest of us.
Rob June 12, 2010 8:40 am (Pacific time)
A sheriff in an Arizona county has said with certainty that Mexican drug cartels control parts of his state and is begging the Obama administration for a massive deployment of National Guard troops to the Arizona-Mexico border. Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu made the statement to KGUN9-TV: The sheriff admits the cartels are operating in his county and without the federal government's help they can't get control. KGUN 9 News asked Babeu flat out if cartels control parts of Arizona. "Absolutely, they have in terms of the remote areas in the drug corridors in the desert here in west Pinal County. Our government has even erected signs warning citizens to beware this is a known drug corridor," Babeu said. When the 911 call came in deputies immediately started a search but found the two bodies shot to death after four hours of looking. In lieu of this violence Babeu is asking president Barack Obama to send 3000 national guard troops to the border to help stop it.
Don and History June 12, 2010 8:35 am (Pacific time)
Ersun thanks for the article. May I suggest an excellent and well-documented read to augment your knowledge base in this historical saga you briefly referenced. "The True History of the Southwest,” {by Matthew Bracken}// The fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest are staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What is the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash. For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn hundreds of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda fable. By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow the even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish colonial rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn new government in Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish colonial rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City. For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in the power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish colonial era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region. Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the Spanish inhabitants of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest never considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from Spanish directly to American. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call an Hispanic native of New Mexico a “Mexican.” So how long did Mexico City have even nominal jurisdiction (in their eyes) over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest never transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids. Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc. of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in endemic graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico. And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are supposed to let any number of Mexicans from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring? At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The Spanish in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade with America. In summary, no current inhabitants of Mexico have a claim on even one single inch of the American Southwest. Not one single citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the United States to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of.
Don June 11, 2010 6:58 pm (Pacific time)
Ersun thanks for the article. May I suggest an excellent and well-documented read to augment your knowledge base in this historical saga you briefly referenced. "The True History of the Southwest,” {by Matthew Bracken}// The fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest are staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What is the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash. For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn hundreds of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the Aztlaners, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda fable. By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow the even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish colonial rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn new government in Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish colonial rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City. For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in the power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish colonial era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region. Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the Spanish inhabitants of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest never considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from Spanish directly to American. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call an Hispanic native of New Mexico a “Mexican.” So how long did Mexico City have even nominal jurisdiction (in their eyes) over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest never transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids. Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc. of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in endemic graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico. And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are supposed to let any number of Mexicans from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring? At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The Spanish in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade with America. In summary, no current inhabitants of Mexico have a claim on even one single inch of the American Southwest. Not one single citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the United States to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of. Not one. They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple. It’s time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the currently prevalent "Aztlan" fairy tales put out by "La Raza" (The Race), "MEChA" (the Student Movement for Aztlan) and other radical anti-American groups.
Anonymous June 11, 2010 4:08 pm (Pacific time)
I believe you are one of the most prejudiced over-educated idiots I have seen in a long time. If Arizona is as bad as you said it was as far as crime then there is a very good reason for them to become a police state. But that might be because of an influx of foriegn nationals to whom our laws mean squat anyway. "Conveniently, your average whiskey tango Texas or Arizona resident doesn’t know a history book from their ass, and probably couldn’t read it even if they did." Well I am from Texas, I have read history books and I read your damn article. You are apparently good at picking selected readings, but if you ignore the rest, it just makes you an educated ass.
Ersun Warncke June 11, 2010 3:59 pm (Pacific time)
Anonymous, you raise an excellent point, which I think demonstrates why the U.S. should not attempt to emulate Mexican law enforcement methodologies and judicial standards. Personally, I would prefer not to have "illegals" in my back yard, which is why I go to some length here to point out who the actual "illegals" are.
Henry Clay Ruark June 11, 2010 2:47 pm (Pacific time)
Ersun: Among your documented assertions here, you also wrote this query: "...The same could of course be said of Texas and Florida (I wonder what those two States have in common?)" The answer is: Bushism...as in brothers, both "made" as Governor. Perhaps that's symptom of political sensitivities in the two states;OR of consequences for it if allowed to prevail.
Jaded June 11, 2010 2:45 pm (Pacific time)
Oh ya great story. You’re a smart guy no doubt about that, but at the end of the day your just another extreme left wing loony.
Let me sum up the article:
Just a bunch of “wiskey tangos” in Arizona that can’t read
All Arizonans are stupid for living out there
Every body that is successful/has money in Arizona is linked to the drug, arms, or human smuggling trade – if not you made it off real estate scams.
Nazis actually work for the Mexicans
Arizonans are a bunch of idots (Oh I already said that)
We stole this land from Mexico, It’s really theirs
Arizonans don’t know what an illegal alien is but that ok they have guns
And whole bunch of other bull @#$%
I know I’m not as smart as you but we won the land in war and then paid them for it, no?
Almost your whole article is your opinion and not based on any fact – sorry
It was still fun to read!!
AND NO I AM NOT A RACIST
Editor: Ersun does not write things based on a lack of facts. He is younger than be by quite a number of years, and one of the most intelligent people I have ever met. Trust me=. The last time I visited Az we were traveling between Sierra Vista and Tucson and I think we saw 200 cops. There are good things about Arizona, but it is pretty screwed up. Nobody would be saying or writing critical assessments like this if they were somewhat reasonable, but it is hard to call it that. You insulted Ersun, but then admit that you just aren't that smart, and you're kind of funny toward the end, so we'll let it fly. You are better off trying to be funny than serious, and none of it would rub me the wrong way if you hadn't been personal. Having said that, I believe you probably aren't a racist, or seek to not be, but you have quite a way to go. And look, I didn't call you a name once, dig?
SWproud June 11, 2010 2:21 pm (Pacific time)
typical pac-nw think. if you like the illegals so much, host a few million in your OWN backyard
Anonymous June 11, 2010 2:14 pm (Pacific time)
Indeed, this “threat to Hispanics” and these “abuses in law enforcement," have been ongoing for years. The Associated Press carried a story where a Maria Elena Gonzalez, reported how female migrants were “forced to strip by abusive police officers, supposedly to search them, but the purpose is to sexually abuse them." Jose Ramos, 18, reported “that extortion by border police occurs at every stop on their migratory route. Until migrants are left penniless and begging for food.” According to AP: “Others said they had seen migrants beaten to death by police, their bodies left near the railway tracks to make it look as if they had fallen from a train. "If you're carrying any money, they take it from you," said Carlos Lopez. "Federal, state, local police--all of them shake you down. If you're on a bus, they pull you off and search your pockets, and if you have any money, they keep it all and say, get out of here.” All of the above “hate” and “abuses in law enforcement” as reported by the Associated Press, befell Central American migrants who enter Mexico.
Vic June 11, 2010 12:03 pm (Pacific time)
Amazing article!!! Thank you, Ersun! I have a friend down here (Mexico) who told me he used to be a "burro"...he backpacked weed across the border. I asked him if he ever got caught and he said, no..that the cops were always paid off and actually helped them get across. I always use the python analogy...there are a lot of pythons down here, but no one is taking the time to smuggle them up there...why? There is not enough of a market for them. If Americans were not buying drugs, Mexicans would not be trying to get them up there. I think Americans should grow their own pot..FWIW...Good people need to oppose and break bad laws...even if it means they might get into trouble...Thanks again!
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