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Feb-23-2009 08:50TweetFollow @OregonNews The Psychology Of The TalibanBy Adeel Malik/Pak Alert Press Special to Salem-News.comIn our coverage of the globe from World News Service-affilated writers, we explore the way other nations view U.S. politics and policies.
(ISLAMABAD, Pakistan) - Since the Pakistan Army started its operation against Taliban in 2003 in the Waziristan region, the Taliban have humiliated the 4th largest army of the world, time and time again. There were a couple of instances in which several hundred Pakistan army troops were captured and traded for Taliban fighters inside Pakistani jails. The uncompromising General Musharraf who ruled the country with an iron fist and almost always had things go his way had no option but to negotiate with the Taliban. Whenever the negotiations broke, the Taliban captured more territory. The government was held hostage to the Taliban. The army could not launch a full scale attack inside the tribal regions for, if they did, the Taliban would attack key targets in main cities (example: Federal Investigations Authority HQ bombing in Lahore) or the Wah Cantt Ammunitions bombing in which they also claimed responsibility. The situation worsened until we reached the present situation. The government suffering from increased attacks from the Taliban in the tribal regions and within the main cities decided to start a new kind of attack. After the ouster of Pervez Musharraf the new Army Chief decided, much in the interest of Pakistan, to go after the terrorists who were ONLY a threat to Pakistan. Many of those people were even funded by the CIA. U.S. Pressure USA angry with this ‘selfish’ attitude of Pakistan has started to violate the territorial sovereignty of Pakistan by using un-manned drone airstrikes. Although the strikes have only killed one major leader of Al-Qaeda, most of these un-manned strikes have only killed civilians notably women and children. The strikes however have drawn angry reactions from the Pakistani government and Pakistani people, however, not as angry as from the Pakistani military. There have been speculations about a possible Pakistani government deal with the USA. The deal was that Pakistan would verbally denounce the strikes but will not do anything significant to stop them. In exchange the USA would let IMF grant Pakistan loans that Pakistan so desperately needed. (see: U.S., Pakistan made deal on air strikes) However the media hype of this deal created a rift between Pakistani government and military. The Pakistan Air Chief Marshall said Pakistan can shoot down drone strikes if the government allowed it. (see: Pakistan can shoot down US drones, says Air Chief) Earlier the defense minister of Pakistan had said that shooting down US drones was not possible. Clearly, the military leadership washed off its hands of the affair by virtually saying, that they can shoot down the plane if the government allows it. The media hype created over the attacks wasn’t merciful either. The media time and time again blasted the government for showing leniency over the drone strikes. After the attack happened in Bannu, the government summoned the US ambassador and gave a final warning. (see: Pakistan Views Missile attack in Bannu; 5 dead). After that the attacks have almost stopped. The Pakistan government much in the interest of its own people has turned defiant to the US government. Although publicly condemning terrorism like the USA, the government, however, has reviews its definition of terror and now considers only those people terrorist who are a threat to Pakistan. Although US pressure is mounting and the USA is also getting India to pressurize Pakistan, it is unlikely that Pakistan will be a poodle of America anymore. After all, it’s hard to look up to some nation which is humiliated and on the verge of defeat. It’s difficult to take orders from a country which is in an economic crisis that seems hopeless. Pakistan has openly admitted, probably for the first time in its history that relations between Pakistan and USA are not good. The Pakistan People’s Party, the most liberal and pro-US party has conceded the fact that relations between the two countries are as Prime Minister Yousaf R. Gillani put it “dragging along.” The New Taliban One question that comes into mind is how can the Taliban stand up to and humiliate the most powerful armies of the world time and time again. The answer to that question actually requires at how we define the Taliban. I think a good definition of the Taliban will be people who are standing up against USA in Afghanistan, the context in which they are most probably referred in the mainstream media. There are two types of people fighting for the Taliban. 1) People who are religiously motivated 2) People fighting for other reasons (mainly Afghan nationals dissatisfied or angry at the Afghan government for obvious reasons) Now people religiously motivated include madrassah students from across the border and within Afghanistan and as far as German converts to Islam fighting for the Taliban. But that’s not the strength of the Taliban. By Taliban own accounts people in the resistance who are true Taliban (meaning foreign fighters or madrassah students) do not compromise more than 30-40% of the Taliban. This goes to tell you something. The Taliban movement is not a religious movement anymore. It is a national movement. (see: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/19/AR2008091903980.html?wpisrc=newsletter">The Washington Times: A Modernized Taliban Thrives in Afghanistan) But there’s more to these people than just being multiethnic. They’ve got a big victory under their belt, a victory which crippled Communist Russia. We are not talking about USA fighting against ‘sheep’ armies of the Middle East in Arab-Israeli wars or the Gulf War. We are talking about war-veterans who know the Afghan terrain and who are undoubtedly the best experts of guerilla warfare. And who have trained thousands of willing, sincere fighters under their command to do their job in the mid to late 90s. The Only Option Faced with the dilemma of facing a humiliating defeat in Afghanistan or leaving in retreat, the US government has publicly admitted that its stooge government of Hamid Karzai is trying to negotiate with the Taliban. The Taliban leader Mullah Omar has said that he will not negotiate with anyone unless foreign forces leave Afghanistan. Just consider the irony of this situation. Just try to remember the countless movies that you have seen in which a senior US official says: “We do not negotiate with the terrorists!” And that’s the most important dialogue of the whole film. And now the situation has changed. Now those same people are trying to negotiate with the Taliban and the Taliban are saying: “We don’t negotiate unless our conditions are met” And that “We will kick foreign forces out of Afghanistan”. The USA is desperate for a quick solution knowing that its economy is sinking and that wars are very expensive. This is especially true after a British commander in Afghanistan said that the war in Afghanistan cannot be won (Times Online: War on Taliban cannot be won, says army chief) by military alone, but only through a deal with the Taliban. But will the Taliban deal? Taliban Strategy Let’s say you are playing the world number one chess player. In the beginning of the match the world number one says “Hey you know what let’s call this game a draw!” Will you agree Of course! But let’s take another scenario. Let’s suppose you have fought hard against this chess player. You have solidified your game and are on the verge of winning, the opponent then says “Hey let’s call it a draw!” Will you say “yes”. Of course not! The same is the case with the Taliban. They are on the verge of victory. Why stain the fabric of your glory? The Taliban are waiting. They are very patient. They know the longer the US stays in Afghanistan, more and more number of people will join the Taliban cause. If I am right, the Taliban’s best strategy would not be to give a sudden blow to the US and NATO forces, but rather a slow and painful defeat. This is exactly what they are doing. Except for a few large attacks the Taliban are using classic guerilla warfare to checkmate their enemy. Aftermath With Pakistan being ‘selfish’ and not listening to the USA and I don’t think that is going to change and should change, the USA’s defeat is inevitable. But what will happen if we let the Taliban take over. Terrorism acts all around the world. A world in anarchy! Perhaps not! When the Taliban were in power, Osama Bin Laden was not allowed to conduct any terrorist attacks outside Afghanistan. In fact, the Taliban were a comparatively responsible government when it came to foreign affairs (though certainly very stupid internally). Certainly their return would mean a lot of influence over Pakistan. But they already have a lot of influence over Pakistan right now. Pakistan is showing an attitude of indifference towards war on terror, in that it is least bothered who wins. The Taliban have matured. At least they are certainly much more mature and objective-oriented than the current administration in Washington. People in power generally do become responsible after they achieve power. And giving Afghanistan to the Taliban would not be such a big blowback to the West. It’s who has the influence over Pakistan, Afghanistan’s nuclear armed nation that is the bigger threat to the USA. As of now, the Taliban have a great influence over Pakistan. They have a lot of Pakistani territory under their name already. They have their own sharia laws in the region. The Pakistan army doesn’t dare step into those tribal regions under Taliban control. But if Washington really wants to influence Pakistan, they should do what the Clinton administration did in mid-90s. Secure Pakistan’s democratic institutions. Give aid to Pakistan. Stop supporting dictators. Invest in Pakistan and let Afghanistan have it its own way. Defeat and humiliation might be inevitable and not what the West wants in Afghanistan. But it is what the West deserves! 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weldon January 1, 2010 10:08 pm (Pacific time)
they are being feed info from the inside....there is no way they can stand against the usa with inside info.....
Henry Ruark February 24, 2009 12:30 pm (Pacific time)
To all: Please note how challenge to Thomas brought a cogent response, opening situation for still further cogent sharing by Editor Tim. Thus ALL reading here gain, while two seemingly confronted find cooperative commonsense in dialog rather than debate invariably seeking defeat for one or t'other... That's WHY challenge is used here: NOT to denigrate but to potent-ize, and help dialog to prevail over deathly, always confrontational, political debate resulting in pandering.
Thomas the Conservative February 24, 2009 11:11 am (Pacific time)
My below posts were addressing terrorists, not "all" those of one particular faith. I'm quite sure that nothing in my below posts are inaccurate, and if one can point any out I would appreciate it, thanks, I always try to keep my learning curve operational. As far as my sources, public record and history books site all what I have posted. Also regarding those "disappeared aircrafts", any more info on that topic?
Tim King: Thomas, your clarification of that means something to us. Too many people utter Islam and terrorist in the same breath and it isn't fair or accurate to all of the good people of that faith. As far as the airplanes on 9/11 go, have you studied any of the data that exists? I have written about it extensively, and on a level of physics, the stories about each of the crashes don't add up.
I have listed these stories individually before, but this time I am going to give you this link to visit which has all of the stories I have written as well as those written by others: Salem-News.com reports on 9/11
Many people do not have the constitution that allows them to imagine that what happened on September 11th 2001 was not what our government told us it was. I have in this case, the dubious honor of being an airplane crash site researcher, former Marine in aviation, and a friend of one of the only individuals in the world who dismantles and scraps 757's for a living. These things all add up in this case, I hope you read the stories.
Henry Ruark February 24, 2009 8:42 am (Pacific time)
Con:
Your two comments here represent typical "b-button"
feelings without due foundation in fact.
IF you can do so, cite any solid nonpartisan source to replace your b/b/massage.
When repeated publicly it puts you, your lack of fact on which to base what you state, and your public exposure all to shame. Put up or .... ..
Conservative February 23, 2009 2:01 pm (Pacific time)
Disappearing airplanes? First I've heard about this. Has there been an investigation into this matter? Any witnesses? Regarding if the Taliban and Al Qada acted together in past terrorist attacks against America and other western states, I hope someday soon that there will be a declassification of evidence/investigations in this matter. But those students of history are aware that many who follow the Islam faith have been attacking Americans overseas since we formed as a country in 1776. They both killed and enslaved our people back then, as they are killing us today. Do political borders really hold much relevance to terrorists? They appear not to, whether here, the Phillipines, Africa, Europe, Asia or most any place other than Anartica. Regarding the latter, maybe it's the increasing ice pack that keeps them away?
Tim King: Once again you are expressing prejudice here, and you are wrong again. Islamic people are just regular people like you and I who want to raise their kids and enjoy holidays and the ability to worship and earn a living. Sound complicated? I don't think so. We have plenty of terrorists who do horrible things to people and they know about as much in regard to Islam as you do, which is not enough. The truth is that every American fighting overseas is doing it to help a Muslim country. Islamic soldiers from the IA and the ANA fight and work closely with our soldiers on a daily basis. You are WRONG to suggest that all people believe a certain way just because of where they live. Look at what an anomaly your POV amounts to and you are living right here in the U.S.A. I presume at least. Thank God most people have the ability to know better.
JoeB February 23, 2009 11:31 am (Pacific time)
Regarding: "...When the Taliban were in power, Osama Bin Laden was not allowed to conduct any terrorist attacks outside Afghanistan..."
What was the attack on the twin trade towers in NYC? It occurred when the Taliban were in power; afterwards they would not hand over bin Laden. This is a poorly written article of half truths. If you believe it, "this is what Pakistan deserves...
Editor: Come on Joe, you're still buying that line about the Taliban being involved in the attack on the Trade Towers? Go study the issue and then come back and talk to me about it. Explain the disappearing planes at Shanksville and the Pentagon, and then tell me why evidence documents half the alleged "terrorist suspects" Al Queda may have had a hand in the attack on 9/11, but I don't think the Taliban was involved in anything to do with it. They are a problem in their own region of the world and that is a fact.
stephen February 23, 2009 10:18 am (Pacific time)
Afhanistan: not called the "graveyard of the empires" for nothing.
Conservative February 23, 2009 9:48 am (Pacific time)
The Taliban, no matter how one "attempts" to characterize or "spin" as to their motivations...they are nothing more than murderous thugs. They have a global level propaganda program that can no doubt sway the uninformed. Look at what they have done in the past, expect more of the same if they ever come into power again. Since Pakistan is a nuclear power that has been supporting murderous terrorists going into India, expect some more heat coming to this part of the world regardless of what we do by either continuing a "troop surge" in Afghanistan, or leaving.
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