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Feb-21-2010 16:06printcomments

The Mexico We Have Found

"Aren't you afraid to live down in Mexico ?...Do you really think it is safe?"

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Photos by Vic Pittman

(SAN BLAS, Mexico) - My wife Glenda and I live in the coastal town of San Blas in the state of Nayarit, Mexico about 1000 miles from the US border. This is not a Cancun or Cabo, this is the real deal, a Mexican fishing town relatively untouched by tourism.

In this town of about 9,000 people, there are maybe thirty "full-time" Gringos... maybe another two hundred that stay here during the winter, but have homes back in the US or Canada. We are definitely a minority here..this is a record of our experience here so far.

When we first announced our intentions to move "somewhere on the Pacific" in Mexico, our families were skeptical at first, then worried as they realized we were serious. "Havent you heard about all the beheadings?"

"There's no way I would live down there!"

"You need to reconsider that idea..it just is not safe !" were among the comments we heard from well-meaning friends and family.

Nevertheless, we were tired of struggling just to make our house payment, and after seeing a few of my friends pass away, who all had plans to "retire one of these days and relax" , we decided to do something different. Our children are all grown and doing well so we were free to make the move.

The price of acting on impulse is that often you find yourself woefully unprepared. We came down here knowing virtually NO Spanish. It was like being a deaf-mute at first, but everyone was helpful and accommodating.

No one told us "If you are going to come to our country, learn the language, dammit!"....(perhaps they did in Spanish and we just didnt understand them).

The primary concern our friends and families had about our move was crime. Many felt that just because we were white, we would be singled out and victimized. One person suggested "a really nice gated community of mostly Canadians" (white) by Puerto Vallarta that was "safe" and "even had guards!" (I'm guessing the guards are Mexicans, which would seem to defeat the purpose.)


That was not at all what we wanted, though. We wanted to be minorities and see if we could assimilate and become part of the community despite our "gringo-ness' and the fact that we stand out like the proverbial turds in the punchbowl, me with my height and shaved head (the latter seems to facinate kids to no end and has given me my nickname "Pelon", which means bald) and Glenda's mane of blonde hair and her many tattoos which caused one little girl to ask her mother if she were a "bruha"...a witch. ( as in Glenda the Good Witch of El Norte).

One guy who I would not call a friend, but an acqaintance in Oregon told me "Be careful..Mexicans will steal anything they can get their hands on. They are lazy, and if they can get something by stealing it, they will".

Fortunately for us, the Mexicans here are evidently too lazy to even steal, because there has been every opportunity for someone to steal from us, and no one has. On top of our van, which is parked on the side of the road about 20 feet from our house, are almost always two fully equipped kayaks held on only by bungee cords.

These would bring an easy 3000 pesos each ( $250) in the next town down the road, but as I look out the window, I see they have survived yet another night in the mean streets of Mexico. Our carport is open... no garage door and our bicycles are there for the world to see...and we still have them.

When we ride them to the Mercado (market) we do not lock them up...no one else does either. In Guaymas, on the way down, we took some clothes to a "Lavanderia".

Unlike American laundromats, here you drop off your clothes and pick them up later clean and folded and the bill is less than it would cost at a coin-op.

This time, I accidentally left a 100 peso bill in my pocket, which would be around a day's wages for the worker there.... it was promptly returned, upon which we gave her half. My wife feels absolutely safe walking into town in the evening alone and has not encountered disrespectful behavior. She gets whistles (which are not considered rude here, but a compliment) and smiles but has never felt threatened.

Photos by Vic Pittman

On our way down here we got a motel in Mexicali, one of the more dangerous border towns. I took a pocket knife and 200 pesos and purposely walked through some of the seedier areas of the town that night. Not once did I feel threatened and all I encountered were friendly greetings and vendors selling wonderful food.

Same thing in Hermosillo and Guaymas. Even carrying a six-pack of Tecate, I could not get robbed or even harassed. The biggest threat we have encountered here is the threat of overeating, especially in the evening when the air is filled with the smell of grilling meat, seafood, chicken and onions as the many food vendors crank up the grills.

Another very dangerous person here is Francisco, the guy who makes churros in the town plaza. Churros are a pastry which is made by deep frying long strands of dough then covering them in a sugar-cinnamon mix.

The smell is irresistible and goes for blocks in every direction. Much of my time during the day is spent at the docks painting and lettering boats. There are more boats than cars in this town by far and I have found steady employment painting names and pictures on them.

At least 80% of the people in this town make their living from some aspect of the seafood industry. A families prize possession is their boat, for it is their means of survival. The food here is incredible and cheap. Avocados are around twenty cents each, tomatos around ten cents ...the fruit and vegetables are fresh and plentiful year-round.

Our fisherman friends keep us supplied with free or next to free Dorado, Bonita, Sierra (Mackerel) and other fish... usually caught that morning. A friend of mine told me "No one goes hungry in this town... as long as you don't mind fish."

The poorer people of the town help unload the boats in exchange for a fish or two...those who because of age or infirmity cannot help unload still get a fish. The people here are for the most part, poor by American standards.

Houses are smaller but usually paid for. Many houses hold two or three generations of family... as the family grows, additional stories are added on to the house. Everything here is concrete, due to the humidity. With the palm trees and jungle, it feels as if we are living in the Flintstone's town of Bedrock.

But the most vivid difference that we see here from Oregon is one that saddens us. People seem so much happier here. They have less materially, but have an appreciation and enjoyment of life, family, food and culture that I wish there were more of back in the US. Maybe rampant materialism and having the best and latest gadgets and cars really does not buy happiness.

Being in debt certainly did not buy us happiness...we have virtually nothing here, but are more relaxed and happier than we have been for some time. We work nearly every day..some days we make only $15-$20 US, but that is more than enough for us to live comfortably on.

There is a naval base here and a constant military presence, which would infuriate me in the US, but is somewhat comforting here. Why the difference? Mexico is not bombing, invading or trying to steal the resources of any other country the last time I checked.

No Afghan or Palestinian families have been blown to bits by Mexican rockets and Mexico does not export weapons all around the world nor does Mexico have military bases outside of Mexico.

I see no dishonor at all in a purely defensive military.(like the way America's is supposed to be) The main job of the Mexican military seems to be dealing with the drug cartels and smugglers.

No one here has a problem with that. It is not uncommon to see trucks with fully armed soldiers driving through town. The last time I got gas, there was a truck with three soldiers carrying machine guns in the back just parked there at the gas station keeping an eye on things.

Many of the soldiers are local boys and long time members of the community. The police carry machine guns too, but stay in the background and are there if needed, but are not aggressive. There is always an officer outside the bank.

The general attitude seems to be that if you do not start trouble, you get no trouble. There is a degree of corruption re the drug trade that I will not go into because, well...we live here. Marijuana is plentiful and cheap and almost universally used. Mexico has a "personal use" law which allows a person to have up to 5 grams on their person at any time.

We really believe that the scary Mexico hype is rooted in the fact that the US govt. does not want retiree Baby-boomers taking their meager Social security and retirement benefits and spending them down here where they would go much further. We rent a nearly new house, eat at least one meal a day out and live in comfort four blocks from a tropical (WARM) beach for around $15 US per day.

That is for both of us...all expenses included. I suppose if we came down here looking down our white noses at the natives and being arrogant and disrespectful and showing no interest in learning the language and customs we would not have such a good time, nor have made so many great friends.

People appreciate that we love their town and lifestyles and are only too happy to share with us a dish they have made or take the time to help us learn Spanish. The respect and acceptance we have been shown is humbling... almost embarrassing at times.

I wonder how many of these people realize that they would for the most part not experience anything close to this kind of hospitality on the other side of the border. And when I log on to Oregon news sites and read about the constant shootings, robberies, sex crimes ,police killings and burglaries....it makes me want to ask my friends and family "Aren't you afraid to live up in the US ? Do you really think it is safe?"




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iggy March 14, 2010 8:22 pm (Pacific time)

I came to this page via a comment you left on the Smoking Mirrors website. So I can assuredly say that this man is more informed and aware than 99 percent of the general public in the USA. Anyone who is a regular reader of a blog like Smoking Mirrors, is most definitely not living in a fantasy world and knows the difference between propaganda and the truth. Thanks for the great write up Vic. I am in Southern Cal about 2 hrs north of the Tijuana border. I also have been to Mexicali a few times as well. I haven't been south of the border since about 3 or 4 mos after 9-11 and got to witness the change in the border crossing mentality paranoia that only slowed everything down to an even more intolerable pace. SO it's been a while. I'd be curious to take a stroll down La Revolution, the main drag in TJ, and see for myself how things have changed with all this new violence... But I would have to agree with you 100 percent. The media and govt. have been on an aggressive fear campaign for the past decade and I wouldn't be surprised if Americans begin having real problems leaving the country under any circumstances. It's becoming more and more a feudal society with no middle class. Ironically, the only 2 countries that have more of a division between rich and poor are Mexico at #1 and Turkey at #2.


expat in France March 11, 2010 12:11 pm (Pacific time)

Having lived in southern California for a few decades before leaving the country and having traveled often in Mexico, I noted that the further that one got from the US border the better things were. Thanks for the story Vic and good on you for finding an idyllic lifestyle. After SoCal, adjusting to real seasons and a lot of rain was the biggest shock that I have had to deal with here, language aside. I envy your tropical climate.


Carport March 7, 2010 6:33 pm (Pacific time)

With so many amateurs posting what passes for information on the web, it’s refreshing to see a great article written by someone that actually knows what they’re talking about. I haven’t seen detailed information like this anywhere else on the web. Steel Carport


full-timer in Mexico February 28, 2010 9:50 am (Pacific time)

I think it's a good thing that there is finally a President in Mexico that is standing up against the Drug Lords down here. I see a safer and economically stronger future for Mexico. Unfortunately it's at the cost of many, many lives.


Jeff Kaye~ February 27, 2010 12:54 pm (Pacific time)

That sounds idyllic; peaceful and happy. If we could just get our President here in the States to stop pushing our stupid failed drug war down the throats of other "American" countries, that situation could exist in border communities as well. The violence is a direct result of our importation of products we simultaneously condemn the production/distribution of. This situation is unsustainable, and the sooner we force our leadership to face this simple fact, the sooner the killings can stop. Mexico's tourism would multiply exponentially without the threat of violence looming -- implicit in each foray, jaunt, day-trip or extended visit. I used to enjoy walking across the bridge to Ciudad Juarez from El Paso, Texas as a child. I wouldn't even consider that today.


Vic February 23, 2010 12:53 pm (Pacific time)

Good point, anon...I thought of that later..Don has been here nearly 42 years, not 22...There is a hospital in this town along with several Salud clinics. A major medical emergency that could not be handled here would be airlifted to Tepic, the capitl city of Nayarit which is just 30 miles away. There is also a naval hospital here. As far as the citizenship thing, I will have to look into that... dont know. Mexico has some good laws that I believe would be good in the US. For instance, no foregner can take a job that a citizen is willing and able to do. If a Mexican citizen is not able or willing to take a job, then a non-citizen can. There are two other sign painters in this town and if they complained, I could be forced to stop. While I would hate for that to happen, the general principal makes sense to me !


Anonymous February 22, 2010 6:01 pm (Pacific time)

Vic I noticed you didn't respond to the questions from Carl other than a Vietnam vet whose tour ended 22 years ago. Vietnam was over more than 35 years ago. I would be interested how a major medical need would be addressed down there as well as citizenship for a baby born there whose parents were non-citizens.


Vic February 22, 2010 2:07 pm (Pacific time)

Good point, Daniel !


Vic February 22, 2010 2:01 pm (Pacific time)

Carl, actually a large percentage of the full-time Gringos here are Vietnam era veterans. Our best Gringo friend here, Don, is a Marine Vietnam veteran. He has lived here 22 years. He came here to surf after his tour of duty and never left.


gp February 22, 2010 8:40 am (Pacific time)

Coincidentally, an Argentine-American just stopped by with his cousin who happens to be my opthomologist. He is leaving the US to retire here in his native country because he can't make it there on his retirement income. He asked if he could make it comfortably on $2K per month. My answer, two of us live very comfortably on less.


Carl February 22, 2010 6:55 am (Pacific time)

Sounds great Vic, and glad you are down there living among people that I'm sure really like you also. How about if you and many other families had moved there during child-bearing years and started puting more pressure on the medical services beyond what was budgeted for? Then the kids enter school (maybe older ones moved there rather than being born there-also if a gringo baby was born there would they be full citizens?), maybe the kids speak no spanish and need textbooks in english (or Canadian-speak), along with all english instruction all the way through their educational system regardless if they also spoke spanish? Then some of these kids started breaking the laws disproportionately, and soon demanded cultural changes to accomodate them? I could go on, but am sure you get my drift. Small micro-type communities like that can work fine until that proverbial straw hits and the pressure of unwanted change starts trending. Oh and in that last statement I was referring to here in the states. How's the medical there if you need specialized care, would you be evaced in a timely manner as a non-citizen? What percentage of gringo's do you think would flip that ideal location into something not ideal? How would you be treated if you had no income and were draining more resources from the community than you were putting in? Educational cost per student is a big drain on resources. Any American combat veterans living down there near you that you can share your evaluation of them with?


Good February 21, 2010 10:20 pm (Pacific time)

Sounds like he hated America.


Daniel Johnson February 21, 2010 10:09 pm (Pacific time)

Vic: I think that if a Mexican from the region you are in were to move to almost anywhere in the U.S. (and here in Alberta, as well) they would say in their story: "The people here are for the most part, poor by Mexican standards."

And to commenter "Good"--you are writing in the past tense. You clearly don't understand what Vic wrote but he is clear in saying that there are "aspects of America" that he hates and I think with good reason. Reread Vic's article and note the things he specifically doesn't like. Are they things that you like and approve of?


from near san blas February 21, 2010 8:00 pm (Pacific time)

I think, objective article, ok. I live close to the port of San Blas, greetings, hope to come and meet their wonderful food and excellent climate, security is as they say here if not annoying anyone bothering you, your belongings carefully as anywhere in the world


Daniel February 21, 2010 7:41 pm (Pacific time)

Vic I have traveled and lived thru out Mexico for years and its safer than the USA . If you are over 60 you can also buy into the imss , the government medical system , for a very small amount . I am not to happy with the mexican war on drugs tho , with over 15,000 dead in the last few years . The dead include narco's , police , reporters , politicans and those who were in the wrong place at the wrong time . Mexico was even more mello before their current president stole the office . The U.S. press magnify the killings and scare the crap out of the unknowing reader . It is helping to kill the tourist trade and the needed jobs .


Natalie February 21, 2010 7:05 pm (Pacific time)

Charming beauty in it's untouched simplicity...


gp February 21, 2010 6:32 pm (Pacific time)

Thanks for the interesting story Vic, it mirrors our story in many ways. We encountered the fear among US folks for others in other lands, the happiness of people people here who are poor but not miserable, the friendliness, the safety, the good food. We are pretty darn happy with our decision to live in Patagonia too. Perhaps the best of all is our ability to live without a car. Buses are great, taxis fill in and our feet carry us most places. The town ends abruptly, it doesn't sprawl on forever and thus there are grand vistas everywhere.

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