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Dec-13-2010 21:44TweetFollow @OregonNews Spontaneous Creation?Gunther Ostermann for Salem-News.com“The universe can create itself spontaneously out of nothing and it has no creator" - Stephen Hawking
(KELOWNA, B.C.) - There was and is, A CAUSE, prior to the big bang. The prominent scientist Stephen Hawking warned humanity that, “We’re acting with reckless indifference to the future on planet earth. It will be difficult to avoid disaster in the next hundred years, let alone the next thousand or million.” Why is humanity hell-bent on destroying the world? Has humanity lost its moral compass, if it ever had a real one? Numerous people, disappointed in church and religion, are embracing atheism, but in so doing throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Maybe the time has come to replace the archaic and man-made concept of God, with a new science based understanding. However, despite the fact that ten thousand scientists are working on the Large Hadron Collider, in trying to recreate the Big-Bang and looking for the God particle, the Higgs boson, by smashing subatomic particles together, not one scientist came out and admit, perhaps for fear of ridicule that, before the big bang, and as THE CAUSE, there was and is a Super-Intelligence, who is as invisible and intangible as is our mind, that is me, the I? It may take many years before that happens, since even Stephen Hawking says, “The universe can create itself spontaneously out of nothing and it has no creator.” Wow! Is then the belief in God any less fantastic? Is it too much of a conjecture to presume that the big bang was designed, just like any seed, with the Anthropic principle, and the process of Creavolution, to produce in time, exactly what exists today? Lastly, I add my own prophetic words from the 80s to Stephen Hawking’s…every year lost in curbing the violence of man against man and nature will require eons for the earth to heal itself, and nobody really knows the day of no return. Originally published by: The Guardian Nigeria Articles for December 12, 2010 | Articles for December 13, 2010 | Articles for December 14, 2010 | Support Salem-News.com: Quick Links
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Daniel December 15, 2010 6:58 pm (Pacific time)
X why is it you make compassion seem a burden . If you are so perceptive you would know who I am . Your postings do put a smile upon my face tho ! I have been In the radiance of real empowered beings , sir you are not one of them . Please reread my posting and do some inward search and some research before you dig yourself into it too deep .
xexon December 15, 2010 5:28 pm (Pacific time)
Daniel, you know this how exactly? By reading about it? That would place you in the realm of belief rather than perception. Duality is the nature of this world, and since I have to interact with people here (out of compassion), I have to speak as they do to be understood. When in Rome...x
Daniel December 15, 2010 6:48 am (Pacific time)
Anon Humbug ! Now thats profound , nothing but humbug , wow thats really amazing . Did you come up with that all by yourself ?
Daniel December 15, 2010 6:41 am (Pacific time)
Xexon If you are a realized person you do NOT live in a world of duality ! Your posting show me you are a poser with very limited knowledge . One who is truly transcendental does not have to live in a world of duality , they are within and without . You confuse your atma as being the paramatma and are caught up in your own ego as being the center . You may fool yourself but not others .
Anonymous December 14, 2010 10:34 pm (Pacific time)
@ xexon and Daniel....Humbug, nothing but humbug!
xexon December 14, 2010 8:29 pm (Pacific time)
Lord is master of one's own domain.It is not exclusive to Christian thought. I'm what's known as an Advaita. Yet, I still have to live in the world where duality is the rule rather than the exception. I will be that exception as long as life is in me. "Selfless". Most of what you know of that term is a stereotype. I've known Indian masters that could beat you with your own self worth one minute and show you God the next. You can't pin down such people with nothing but a worldly point of view to go on. The ancient rishis were the first atomic scientists.They knew of sub-atomic particles and how they behaved. They didn't have super colliders because they didn't need them. They watched it all from inside themselves by nothing more than their will to do so. Let me know when learned men can catch up to that. x
Daniel December 14, 2010 7:42 pm (Pacific time)
xexon one who sees the lord in the heart of every atom is rare and selfless , truly selfless . Many pose themselves to have great knowledge but are under material illusion on a very subtle level . Those who pose without real knowledge are only fooling themselves !
Daniel December 14, 2010 7:32 pm (Pacific time)
Yes Josh very little difference . The point I am making is everybody thinks my part is not the problem , as long as I get mine . They are not out to destroy the planet but are doing so by their actions .
xexon December 14, 2010 5:59 pm (Pacific time)
For most people, that would be true. God realization brings with it many gifts however. One of which is the ability to see naked souls. Outside of all the beliefs they have attached to themselves in life. I see the part that is created equal with all other people. But I also see their individual abilites to navigate life. I don't have to be in physical proximity to the person. They just have to get my attention. I can talk with a 3 year old or a 100 year old. On their own level. Because I access them through the part that is created equal. You must understand that only a small slice of what creation "is" is available to you as a human with 5 senses. Until you aqquire something beyond that, you are bound to this realm of physical matter and will not be able to see the mechanics behind creation itself. x
Josh Akers December 14, 2010 4:51 pm (Pacific time)
"I do not believe humanity is hellbent on destroying the Earth , but are hellbent on making a buck ." -Daniel There's hardly a difference these days.
Josh Akers December 14, 2010 4:50 pm (Pacific time)
xenon, to make any assumptions about another human's range of perceptions, a human that you don't know personally, is to also call into question your own knowledge and perception.
xexon December 14, 2010 1:39 pm (Pacific time)
Well, allow me to retort. My background IS science. Yoga too. In fact, one of my childhood interests was particle physics. Unified field theory stuff. What ties creation together. I saw the shortcomings of trying to find God through science and moved up to the next level myself. Because I was born with that abilty I spoke of earlier. I've been a yogi most of my life. "God" is about range of perception, not belief in what your physical senses reveal to you. And it is an internal experience. You can't produce any physical evidence of something that isn't physical to begin with. But you can observe it within. If you have that ability. Most don't.We live in a world where that is made painfully clear everyday. x
Daniel December 14, 2010 1:33 pm (Pacific time)
Alty you are ignorant in understanding my point ! The observation is by humans and is limited by their understanding , thus your definition of science is limited to the human experience . How can you define and understand the universe if you have not experienced it as it is . You can only define to the human understanding . This is not reality only one species limited observation ! Science is from latin meaning to know or have knowledge of . If you have not been thru out the universe you are only fooling yourself that you have any real knowledge of it , your just stroking your human ego .
alty December 14, 2010 11:56 am (Pacific time)
The two comments above clearly demonstrate how ignorant of science most people really are. Science is both a philosophy (materialism) an a highly rigorous method for gathering and testing the evidence derived from observations. Logic and mathematics are then used to recheck and bind together the evidence gathered. When Hawking says that the universe is capable of creating itself, then that is what the evidence says. As far as, ..."Hawking don't have the range of perception required." and "...Hawking is fool number one if he thinks he can define what is beyond experience or human concept," I will always give more weight and trust with the science of Hawkings (and the entire scientific community) over the statements made by those who claim to have superior insight but offer no proof. The insane hear and see the universe different form the sane. So do the insane have superior insight? Who would agree with that!
Daniel December 14, 2010 10:23 am (Pacific time)
If the concept of GOD is based upon a scientific concept it is still man made , as is the science it is based on . I do not believe humanity is hellbent on destroying the Earth , but are hellbent on making a buck . Unfortunately in doing so often they destroy the elements of the place we all live on . Hawking is fool number one if he thinks he can define what is beyond experience or human concept ! But he is correct stating we are acting with reckless indifference toward the destruction of the planet .
xexon December 14, 2010 7:04 am (Pacific time)
Bah. This is akin to blind men sitting around arguing over the color red. Despite their vast education, educated guesses is all they're capable of. They can't see what would reveal the answers they seek. When it comes to metaphysical questions, you have to get the answers from a metaphysicist. Scientists such as Hawking don't have the range of perception required. And all those fancy pieces of paper hanging on the wall behind them are worthless in obtaining it.You have to be born with it, or not. x
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