What has Happened to Veterans Today?

As the 10th anniversary draws closer, the disinformationists are cranking up their propaganda machines to try and divert attention away from the really serious issues.

(BANGKOK, Thailand) - For some time now, Veterans Today has been hosting my videos and a few of my articles, and my relations with them have been cordial, up until a few weeks ago when the notorious James Fetzer suddenly appeared out of nowhere, as a contributor, dredging up the almost-laid-to-rest No-Planes-in-New York theory.

This is the 9/11 conspiracy theory that the mainstream media cannot get enough of, because it allows it's well-paid lackeys; commentators and comedians like Glen Beck and Bill Maher to ridicule the entire 9/11 truth movement as being made up of foil-hatted nutters who think that thousands of New Yorkers must have been hypnotised or drugged into thinking that real planes actually hit the Twin Towers, when they were really holograms or computer-generated images in a made-for-TV spectacular.

The theory has been thoroughly debunked, but some logic-challenged diehards still cling to it, and a few others, with sinister agendas, use it as the thin edge of their disinformation wedge to keep a lot of people from taking the basic step from a state of: Our-government-could-never-have-been-involved-in-something-like-that, to the conclusion that terrible things of gigantic proportions could not possibly have happened the way that the world was told they happened on that dreadful day: September 11, 2001.

As the 10th anniversary draws closer, the disinformationists are cranking up their propaganda machines to try and divert attention away from the really serious issues such as:

How could WTC 7, a 47-storey building suddenly collapse, at 5:20 that evening, virtually in its own footprint when it had not been hit by an aircraft, and when the falling-debris and fire damage could not have been serious enough, or more importantly, evenly spread enough for that building to fall as though it had been brought down by a controlled demolition? WTC7 – This is an Orange

Of course there were other anomalies of monumental proportions which will never be properly understood unless access is given, to unbiased investigators, to whatever small amounts of the WTC buildings remain in storage, or that can be exhumed from their hurried burials in a land-fill on Staten Island.

Just the action of spiriting away as much of the evidence as possible, including the jet-engine core that fell out of the South Tower, constituted a series of criminal acts known as tampering with the evidence; literally burying evidence relating to the deaths of then, almost 3,000 people, which figure has now risen well above that level because of the illnesses that can be directly connected to the dust from the Towers, which contained tons of cancer-inducing asbestos.

For some, this heinous crime lives on as they approach their own deaths in the certain knowledge that they have been lied to, marginalised and virtually forgotten like the victims of the so-called collateral damage, brought about by the three wars that this yet-to-be-solved crime was the excuse for. Millions of people killed in Afghanistan and Iraq and the victims of the War on Terror are on the rise, with false accusations of involvement in planning acts of terror, and there will also be an equally sinister fallout as the after-effects emerge of increased exposure to full-body X‑Ray scans at airports, and anywhere else these lethal machines might be placed to fill the coffers of those who manufacture them. And all because of a gigantic pack of government lies about who was responsible for 9/11.

And now, Veterans Today, which once seemed to pride itself on trying to present honest, well-researched articles on all kinds of issues, is knowingly hosting a person who surrounds his no-planes-in-New York arguments with a bodyguard of lies. Lies about facts; lies about the people he regards as experts, and lies about what he claims those who challenges him have said or written, in the past. One example is all that is necessary.

James Fetzer, originator of the website "Scholars for 9/11 Truth", once hosted a radio discussion about the speed of the plane that hit the South Tower (almost certainly not UA 175) during which one of his favourite "experts" was thoroughly debunked by two experienced pilots as knowing nothing about such flying matters, but whom James Fetzer still claims is an aerospace engineer and now claims that he developed a non-existent airborne safety system. In Fetzer's own words:

"Joe Keith, for example, actually designed the shaker system for Boeing, which is used to determine when a plane is going to come apart in flight."

(Please note, this has nothing to do with the stick-shaker, stall-warning system that has been around since the 1960's.)

There is no such system that determines "when a plane is going to come apart in flight", and this has been pointed out to James Fetzer and the editorial board of Veterans Today, which includes Gordon Duff and Dr. Alan Sabrosky, in an e-mail written three days ago. Far from anyone showing concern, I have only heard from Gordon Duff, who has been critical of me for keeping the "dispute" going.

Dispute? There can be no dispute, the statement was untrue, and James Fetzer will not retract it. However his latest bit of reasoning shows a degree of arrogance that is bordering on a belief in his own infallibility.

"But since I believe everything I am saying and have no intention to mislead anyone, I am not lying."

Members of the alternative media, including the staff and contributors to Veterans Today are constantly criticising the mainstream media for telling lies and twisting the truth to fit the agendas of those who control it, so I would like to ask who is now controlling Veterans Today, which allows a provable liar to continue to make false claims about an "expert" he is constantly quoting to back-up his thoroughly debunked No-Planes-In-New York theory? He has also made a number of serious accusations about what I have written and said, which I can prove are not true, so shouldn't Veterans Today be asking:

What else is he lying about? Perhaps more importantly: What does he actually know about the subjects he pontificates on?

But of paramount importance: How can anyone trust the veracity of anything else published by Veterans Today, if they continue to ignore the totally provable accusations of one of its own, hitherto, trusted contributors? Me.

After recovering from the shock of seeing the Twin Towers collapse, on subsequent showings, I developed a strong feeling that what I was seeing and what I was being told were quite different things. For two such buildings to collapse, in the manner they did, solely because they had been hit by large aircraft, did not make sense. The collapses were too uniform. If aircraft impacts were the cause, at least one of the buildings should have fallen over. I subsequently made a video called "WTC7 -- This is an Orange" to express my concern that the public was not being told the truth about 9/11.

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Vincent Nunes August 18, 2011 9:36 am (Pacific time)

I've done research as to the events of September 11th, 2001 - you can read about one of my postings here: http://www.r8ny.com/blog/vincent_nunes/did_ex_fbi_agent_john_oneill_really_die_on_9_11.html We are being delayed and distracted in our search for the truth by dint of emotional baggage. Let's get past that, and we'll start to get answers.

Dr Fredrick Toben Adelaide Australia August 16, 2011 5:07 pm (Pacific time)

The daddy of all lies is, of course, the Holocaust-Shoah, and as I have studied this topic on a full-time basis for just on 18 years, I can soon detect an anomalous pattern within a justified narrative that I then label 'official conspiracy theory'.
The lesson is that Oslo, Tuscon Arizona, 9/11, 7/7, WMD, Oklahoma, incubator, Port Arthur, etc. all display the typical deceptive-lying pattern found in the Holocaust narrative, except that legal force protects this massive lie.
And if you wish to blame the Jews only I counjter by stating: Don't blame the Jews, blame those that bend to their pressure.
Of course one has to remember that Talmudic thought-structures embody the death dialectic as opposed to the Hegelian life-giving dialectic.

I add another factor: anyone who attempts to bolster their argument with a negative reference to Adolf Hitler and the German national Socialists has already lost the argument. Why? Because the current prevailing world power structure is a continuation of that WWII conflict, and it is exhausting itself.
Remember, too, that a day after his birthday, on 21 April 1933 Adolf Hitler enacted a law against kosher slaughter - thereby attacking a major pillar of the Jewish religion that he considered to be inhumane. This fact alone makes sense of the proposition that the impulse to create the Holocaust lie rests on Jewish revenge because Germans are too civilised for such Jewish religious customs. The Holocaust serves the purpose of blackening the good German name - and through a thorough re-education program by Allies it succeeded taking the German nation from National Socialism to the national masochism mantra 'Yes, we killed six million Jews in homicidal gas chambers' - that no-one ever saw.

Editor: Doctor, I read this with great interest, but in the end I find that it makes me uncomfortable. What is your exact point about the Holocaust? Are you suggesting that the numbers are off or that it actually didn't happen? If the latter is the answer, then I would terminate the conversation from my end because it is utterly ridiculous and demeaning to human suffering to suggest that the event is a myth. Too little time has passed for people to try to pass off such foolishness, so I will assume that is not what you mean. There were serious deep-rooted resentments against the Jewish population well into the early years of the 20th Century.

It was a German Poet named Von List who first connected the Betla Armed Cross (what we came to know as the swastika) to antisemitism. This was 1906. There were tremendous Jewish German heroes in WWI but there were also uncomfortable moments for those of Jewish heritage. So back to the Holocaust, and please remember that I am an ardent supporter of Palestinian freedom- earlier today Dr. Phil Leveque was here, he is our mentor and a WWII Veteran who in no way betrays his 88 years on this earth. In 1945, 'Doc' Leveque was busy defeating the German Army with his friends and it is a damned good thing they did. In my book the Nazi's and the Zionists are two peas in a pod, with slightly different characteristics. Racism is bullshit, racial superiority only applies in that Black race better athletes and Asian people being the best students, but where does that leave the rest of us? Jewish people are the best money savers? White people are the biggest colonial minded destructionists?

I have no interest in rewriting the history that people in my life at this moment experienced. No, all the concentration camps did not kill Jewish people, yes, tons of Polish people were killed who were not Jewish, Roma were slaughtered, as were journalists, academics, activists, (my friends would have been the first to die) so while we try to educate people about the terrible actions of Israel that violate Human Rights, I see no need to question the things 'my people' witnessed. Dr. Leveque's wife's father was one of the last Jewish doctors alive in Germany at the end of the war, but he was killed in a camp also. There is no excuse for what took place, in fact it is a sorry pursuit at best that damages our cause to see all people have equal Human Rights. Like Carlos Latuff's awesome cartoon, 'We Don't Need You Fucking Nazi's' I have no tolerance for anyone who thinks they are better than the next man because of a birthright.

Finally, I fear that a comment like this is intended to throw people off track, comments need to made in relation to the story. Israel likely was involved in the whole 911 incident, but in the meanwhile we need to stay focused and fight racism on all levels at all times. Salem-News.com is an anti-Genocide news group.

Tim White August 16, 2011 9:06 am (Pacific time)

From: Tim White
Subject: JAMES FETZER...BAMBOOZELING BULLSHIT BUFFOON ...9/11: The Absurdity of the No-Planes-in-New York Theory
To: "Anthony Lawson" , "Field McConnell" , "Tim Hagiwara" , "Dan Hanley" , "David Hawkins" , "Susan Lindauer" , "H Michael Sweeney/www.proparanoid.net" , "Ernie Wiebe"
Cc: "Tim King" , "Gordon Duff/Senior Editor-VETERANS TODAY" , jfetzer@d.umn.edu
Received: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 12:33 AM

EXCELLENT article Anthony....can you say CIA front EVERGREEN INTERNATIONAL AVIATION supplied BOEING 737's from PINAL AIR PARK/MARANA and MODIFIED with the GLOBAL HAWK REMOTE CONTROL SYSTEM and with NO ONE on board to attack WTC 1 and WTC 2 ? ......FACT.....

and WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 767's ?...check out MOA W-386

1.
Virginia Capes Operating Area VACAPES OPAREA
www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/vacapes.htm - Cached
7 May 2011 – It includes the area covered by W-386, W-387, W-72, W-50, W-108, W-110, R-6606, and the Submarine Transit Lanes. The OPAREA is used for ...
2.
BIOLOGICAL OPINION ON U.S. NAVY TRAINING ACTIVITIES ON EAST COAST ...
www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/pdfs/consultations/biop_navy_eastcoast.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
generally occur within areas W-50A, W-50C (including the Surface Danger Zone), W -72, W-386, and the lower Chesapeake Bay training area (see Figure 1 at the ...
3.
LBTS - NAVSEA - Navy
www.navsea.navy.mil/.../ ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Strategically located on the Mid Atlantic Ocean Front with Virginia Capes Operating Area W-386 and W-72 due east of the facilities, NSWC Dam Neck (NSWC DN ) ...
4.

Tim White,Viet Nam Vet(USAF)
Concerned Citizen,Researcher,Investigator,Whistleblower
former Weapons Fire Control/RADAR Technician
F-4E PHANTOMS
366th TAC Fighter Wing - The GUNFIGHTERS
421st TAC Fighter Squadron - The BLACK WIDOWS
DaNANG AIR BASE Viet Nam 1969-1970

COLLI August 16, 2011 6:34 am (Pacific time)

With all due respect to those participating in both sides of this discussion, I have to put my 2 cents in: while the number of people who witnessed the first plane strike the twin towers may have been few, the number of people who witnessed the second plane's impact were many. Were all of these people lying? Were they hypnotized? Common sense tells me that at least the second plane did strike one of the towers. Banks of elevator shafts were centered in each of the towers. Aviation fuel had to have poured down those shafts which in-turn acted as chimneys with a good draft thanks to the cavity created by the impact of the planes. How hot could such an oxygen and aviation fuel fed fire get? How much did the structure itself weigh and how much weight would it take to collapse the resulting super-heated steel beams? Now if you want to question who directed the planes to strike the towers . . . that is a different question . . . The Bilderberg Group?

Tim King August 15, 2011 6:54 pm (Pacific time)

I'm truly sorry that things shake down to this level, like others I would much prefer that they do not. But here it is - I respect Anthony Lawson to no end. For years we have been carrying his extremely serious and striking video reports about the U.S. government's impossible explanation of events related to 911 with hard well researched facts.

Another part is that I have written several articles over the years about this intense notion of 911 having been a false flag operation. I believed that to be the case from the first hours of the event, it was indeed too coincidental. If one were to review my articles they would see that my beliefs as to what happened and what does not add up, are almost a dead match with Anthony's.

This business with Feltzer is dangerous and if anyone hasn't noticed, all of the progressive movements are split and the divisions in some cases are nothing but well thought-out and executed plans. I told Anthony Lawson that Salem-News.com is with him all the way.

Solidarity is important but truth overrides everything as a priority. I just hope that the different news groups online that are friends can be and always will be friends.

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