Israel: Walking in the Footsteps of Nazi Germany

What about racism in Israel against other races and even against the Ethiopian jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_people_in_Israel Looks like the Nazis got reincarnated as the Israelis.Or maybe they let in a few Nazis posing as jews after the war.

Great article. israel

Editor: Daniel, I wish there was no connection, but I fail to see how there is not. I think that when you state, Germany "attacked its less advanced neighbors without warning" and suggest Israel is different, that you are forgetting about the Six Day War. Israel absolutely and without question attacked its neighboring countries, Egypt and Lebanon, in a complete 'Pearl Harbor' style attack, claiming as always when it attacks, that Israel acted "in its own defense" and "for Israel's safety" when in fact it was nothing but a unilateral attack against countries that disapproved of Israel's seizure of Palestine, and treatment of Palestinian people. It is an old story for only really spanning 63 years. ____________ Are you absolutely sure about that? What was going on with Mr. Nassar at the time? There was a small country called Yemen you may have read about recently. A state of war, defined as the interchange of violence between two states, existed before the six day war began. To see matters properly, simply read the introduction to this hand DECLASSIFIED report. http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/uss_liberty/attack_sigint.pdf Folks who believe such nonsense are ready to believe any mythology they wish. I regret to tell you that there exist 9/11 conspiracy freaks. One wonders most how such primitive minds produce someone who wears clothing.

It's kind of like Teflon and jello !

Tim please reread my post it's called sarcasm !

Tim King: I thought that was the case, I just take opportunities I guess, thanks Daniel!

Israel is nothing like Nazi Germany . The Nazi's were a small technology advanced country that attacked its less advanced neighbors without warning .Some of those neighbors had attacked them before and may have been thinking of doing the same again. They ruled the ocupied nations with repression , racism , and death. The Nazi leaders used a warped idea of religion and g-ds words to justify the mistreatment of others as less than humans . Nazi Germany had a perveted concept of its people being the chosen race to rule over the less advanced peoples . All this has nothing to do with Israel today , does it ?

Editor: Daniel, I wish there was no connection, but I fail to see how there is not.  I think that when you state, Germany "attacked its less advanced neighbors without warning" and suggest Israel is different, that you are forgetting about the Six Day War.  Israel absolutely and without question attacked its neighboring countries, Egypt and Lebanon, in a complete 'Pearl Harbor' style attack, claiming as always when it attacks, that Israel acted "in its own defense" and "for Israel's safety" when in fact it was nothing but a unilateral attack against countries that disapproved of Israel's seizure of Palestine, and treatment of Palestinian people.  It is an old story for only really spanning 63 years.

It is all a numbers thing; Palestinians have not been killed off by the millions, but they are systematically being reduced to the point that they are living like caged animals.  They're attacked by Israelis while farming their land, having a picnic at the beach, and when walking to school.  Every Friday peaceful protesters in Palestine are violently attacked by the IDF when they have no weapons or ill intent. 

Today was day one of the new Israeli permits that are required to step foot in West Bank.  Up to seven years in the slammer if you visit the Holy Land without Israel's issued permit. 

The problem is Zionism.  Is it like the Nazi philosophy?  Well, in each case you are dealing with people who think they are essentially superior.  The "Chosen People" aspect of the Bible causes Israelis to believe that they can seize the land that all of those Palestinian families had possessed for generations.  It continues each day, only it gets worse.  So the numbers are not the same, but concentration camps exist in both cases.  (Take a look at Gaza on Google Earth and not what Israel looks like compared to Palestine)

The images are chillingly similar, and after Gaza, and all of the specific targeting of hospitals, schools and civilian areas with illegal weapons claimed 1400 lives, in retaliation for a total of 14 Israeli lives, several of which were actually friendly fire casualties, I think it became clear that we are dealing with an extremely dangerous religious fanatic when we talk about Israel.

The biggest problem aside from the apartheid laws toward Arabs and Christians, are the endless lies about Iran having nuclear weapons in an effort to drive the world into an earth destroying war.  It should really scare the Hell out of us.  I'm not even slightly scared of aggression from places like Iran, the only really dangerous advanced country in addition to the U.S., is Israel.  I know it is harsh, but I have many friends in Palestine keeping my up to speed on what is taking place there.  I have friends who are Jewish who would echo all of my words.  Israel needs to change.    

That Israel committed war crimes is true, as is the case in every conflict in history. That Isreal is not a Nazi State is also true, if only because two vital underpinnings of a Nazi state, the belief in the State as an organic entity and the belief that this entity can be embodied in a single individual, are no longer believed by any but the benighted. Images of persons behind barbed wire in extermination camps and of persons behind barbed wire for any other reason differ; equating them by apposition is a visual lie. The point was buttressed by other images of persons behind barbed wire with completely different implications, notwithstanding a superficial visual similarity. Excising the mother and child the Nazi soldier shot to render the images similar to that of an Israeli soldier aiming a rifle visually lies. The final images were 1) a demonstration how removal of context could yield an impression of racism where none existed; and 2) a Nazi image used against you in the same manner as the article used Nazi images to show you what it feels like to be abused in that manner. In lieu of a response bearing logic and evidence, you attack your interlocutor's intelligence. Failure to analyze an argument, one provisioned with evidence, that an article duffs images evinces intellectual laziness and moral laxity. Oregon is better known for lovely natural vistas Caucasians stole from Native Americans than for its cornucopia of neo-Nazi movements. One hears the American Nazi Party adopted a road near Salem; perhaps Oregon will soon be as free of Jews as its highways are of trash. If you truly like being king of the cowards, go ahead and not print this. In the meantime, do evaluate the first image on this webpage, four Jews for four soldiers, and see if you can discern a slight difference between Nazi Germany and Israel. http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/einsatz-bio2.htm

While living in Oregon, anti Semitism was almost palpable among the caucasian populace. Friends showed me restrictive covenants on their home sales. A mansion in Portland once owned by a pro-Nazi fifth columnist had a "estate sale" (bizarre term for a garage sale) with its silverware and China sold with pride by the owner, who announced the provenance of the goods without the slightest angst. Disgust exhibited by physicians towards me when they treated my gentile wife was repulsive.  That this display of visual dishonesty appears in Oregon does not surprise me. In fact, the name of the author is quite appropriate. A definition of Duff: duff3   [duhf] Show IPA  –verb (used with object)Slang.  1. to give a deliberately deceptive appearance to; misrepresent; fake. 2. British. (in golf) to misplay (a golf ball), esp. to misjudge one's swing so that the club strikes the ground behind the ball before hitting it.  3. Australian. a. to steal (cattle). b. (formerly) to alter the brand on (stolen cattle).
4. to cheat someone.  Here's another image for you to consider when thinking of the Nazis:  http://patratosu.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/einsatzgruppen-the-last-jew-in-vinnitsa.jpg  That's how Oregon will likely eliminate the last Jew in the State, after enacting anti Semitic legislation.

Editor: Nice, now we are wrong because of a far stretched translation of our last names?  That one has to be constructed of high grade rubber to stretch that far.  I know you Israeli militants hate being exposed and all, but it is our job in life, and we can't apologize for that, I hope you weren't expect us to.  I certainly wouldn't apologize to the dirtbag Nazi's or the KKK or any other racist group.  By the way, your little brain is working on overtime trying to attack Oregon in retaliation for this article; that one gets the creative award.  Of course Oregon is known as being possibly the most liberal state in the entire U.S. and we represent this state as a media group and are clearly against all forms of racism... so I guess that point of yours was sort of silly.  Finally, to criticize Israel's slaughtering of Palestinians, is not anti-Semitic.  We have published several articles about what anti-Semitism actually is, and what it means, and it does not in any way shape or form represnt us.  We work with Jewish and Israeli people to describe the horror that the Israeli government is and represents, and we deliver that information to people.  I don't want to offer you advice, but it would help us all if you found a new word or term to describe people who write critically of Israel.  Perhaps instead of anti-Semite you could say anti-Genocidal, or anti-Murder, or even pro-family, but not anti-Semitic.    

You can, of course, refuse to print that prior post I just made, with links to photographs that refute your thesis.
This would simply prove that the physically courageous are capable of intellectual cowardice.
Here's a nice photograph:
imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/12/17/ba_d1_badge_converge.jpg

Go ahead and call that racist, why don't you? Except it happens to be policemen arresting a thief.

Editor: Will you please try to understand that we are critical of a given form of politics and use of the military?  Intellectual cowardice?  You really wrote that?  Why, because we are aware?  Here we are, a bunch of dumb asses stupidly concerned for the brutal and systematic elimination of a race.  There we go, caring about mankind and the future of all people again, I guess we really are bad... in your eyes.  I made your link live again, but then what would you expect from dummies, than to fairly represent their attackers.  I guess we'll never learn. 

We will likely build a similar wall in the South to block Mexican thugs from entering our country. Will you photograph that wall? Photographs of persons within the confines of an execution camp are not the same as photographs of persons behind a barbed wire fence not in an execution camp. The soldier firing a rifle in the twelfth image is killing a mother and her child. Here is the original: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/german/einsatzgruppen/esg/images2/g61.jpg
That is not the same as the corresponding photograph in Israel. Most important, of course, are piles of bodies in such images as these:

greatersurbiton.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/auschwitz.jpg

z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/f/7/auschwitz17.jpg

The notion that Israel has committed mass murder on the scale of the Nazi's, the Cambodians, or Yaya Khan is very odd.   There are not even present gruesome battle deaths seen in Matthew Brady photos, such as this:  sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/Antietam/dead-soldier-antietam.jpg , far, far worse than the battle deaths you show above.

Find a similar Gaza photograph, with as many bodies, if you might.

A barbed wire photos of crowds in the US: loc.gov/exhibits/civilrights/images/cr0003s.jpg

The image has far worse implications. Should the US be terminated as a nation?

A similarly disturbing image: img.timeinc.net/time/daily/special/photo/berlin1/3.jpg

It's West German police preventing East Germans from coming across for some food. Is that a gruesome human rights violation?
Nazi photographs of Jews: bytwerk.com/gpa/images/misc/ib39-31a.jpg

 Your photographic display is quite similar in intent to that of  Nazi pigs. You should be ashamed of your selves.

You should be ashamed of your selves.

Editor: Oh, I guess I was wrong.  Now I understand that it is OK for Israel to kill but keep it in the dozens and hundreds at a whack, rather than the millions, is that your point?  Israel can't get away with genocide on the scale of Hitler or Pol Pot; that would blow the cover of Zionist religious extremism that drives all of this.  Instead they kill 1400 at a time in Gaza and you act like somehow those 1400 lives are less significant, well, I have a feeling that for their families, it is just exactly like Nazi Germany, only worse because it has the approval stamp of the U.S. emblazoned all over it.  We are not ashamed of ourselves, but every person who supports Israel's genocidal approach to problem solving should be.  If you notice, I took the time to make all of your links live so people can easily click on them.  It hurts so much to see what is taking place, and the mindless Israeli defense of it all.  You are not hearing from run of the mill people here either; Gordon and I are both former U.S. Marines and he is a Vietnam Veteran.  I have covered both of the current wars the U.S. is engaged in.  We are horrified at what is taking place and these photos are just tiny little fragmented views of the similarities between what took place then, and what is taking place now.  Why is it that so many Jewish people are our friends?  Why do so many agree with us?  In my eyes Israeli people are good in their hearts, and I pray that the good part rises to the top and topples the extreme apartheid government that is not only on its last legs, but places the whole world in the same dangerous position.  The U.S. president lied about WMD's in Iraq and the Zionist controlled media in the west parrots Israel's words today about Iran's alleged WMD's which are as much fantasy as the Iraqi WMD's.  Israel must be stopped, through whatever means necessary, and the side that roots for Israel, will assume its role as part of the real new 'axis of evil'.  Oh, don't think I missed your racist comment about Mexican people.  I love people of all races, and Mexico is full of hard working vibrant families that are simply trying to survive.  I hate the fact that Israel continues to violently attack peace protesters; but it is a racist nation that persecutes as the biggest modern age bully in existence, and you talk about shame, geez....  

I agree Hankhyena Israel should stop taking the BILLIONS from the USA in aid and military equipment and get it from India .Israel should also give back the BILLIONS it took from the USA . Let them be independent and stand alone !Why should we prop up a wealthy and advanced country that does not listen to us .

"People oppress others to the degree that they themselves have been oppressed." Someone said that...So what do the Israelis see in store for themselves when this is done. I was saddened to see the hankhyena person (who sounds like a hyena) call this "silly". What on earth is that person doing with his mind? Using it for a trash receptacle? Does he know what the word horror means? Does he have any idea what he is sayin? He is out of touch with reality. Thank you for this photo essay. As a photo journalist I once met, Ron Haziz, who covered the Bosnian holocaust did with his photos, this photo essay shows guilt. It will be as hard for all of us to forgive the Israelis as it has been for them to forgive the Nazis. Only they have not. They continue to teach their children hate and the flower of the desert that they have created is one drenched in shame. I worry that the anti-Jewish sentiments that they accuse all the reporters of the facts of will become fulfilled because such horror is so hard to forgive.

Your article is cheap, irresponsible propaganda and it is full of errors. The notion that Israel's economy is completely propped up by the USA is particularly ludicrous. Israel's high tech industry - "Wadi Valley" - is the second-largest in the world, next to SIlicon Valley. Israelis have made enormous progress on their own, and they have a better ally than the USA : India. Your "comparison photos" are especially trashy - a very silly, anti-intellectual way to spread "knowledge" instead of using actual, truthful reportage.

Editor: Yes, it is pretty offensive isn't it?  Humanitarians disapprove of how Israel treats Palestinians.  I disapprove of Israel's actions depicted in these photos.   

Congratulations on your penetrating and original insights, and your attention to historical accurcy. Onward toward the Final Solution.

Thank you. I hope this will help wake us up to the tragedy unfolding before our eyes.

OMG. What a sad history of repeatedness. Kudos to you MR. Duff on this excepional and eye opening story. We have to realize what Israel is doing to this population of innocence.