Holocaust Survivor Visits Willamette University

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Albert Marnell April 15, 2007 6:54 am (Pacific time)

I have to correct you on one thing. In every country that saw death and destruction during both WW1 and WW11 every nationality had its group of non-innocents that died. When war breaks out it is because of money, power and profit. Some people will sell their own neighbor or family member for gain. Most civilians are innocents during wars. Some people that claim to be innocent are not. I do not care if they are Germans, German Jews, Japanese, Russians, French or Martians. Even during the Civil War sometimes brother was pit against brother. The people that I have the least feeling for in this life is not a Jewish woman that managed to survive a horrible situation, it is my own brother and his second wife. I have Zero feelings for them and with reason. Sometimes the people we hate the most are our own blood. At this point actually, I am too tired to hate because they burned me out, but I could care less if they are hit by a bus and I know they feel the same because it was said to my face.

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Albert Marnell April 15, 2007 6:40 am (Pacific time)

Hello Editor, I just wrote a long factual comment on the Wars of this century and the suffering of all people. It disappeared. To Carla and Alice: You are reading into my comment. I wrote about and gathered information for an hour that evaporated into cyberspace. I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood outside of New York. I am not insensitive or unaware. Maybe you are not insensitive or unaware. Many people are insensitive and unaware and uninformed of the total suffering not just during that period. The majority of people in conentration camps under Nazi control was 13 million, 7 million Christians died. I do not have the figures of those that died in the Russian gulags who were also tortured. The piece I wrote had alot of fact, heart and insight and now it is probably gone. I am too tired to replicate it and it is the second time it has happened with regards to this article. If someone is blocking me, I do not know. I am concerned right now with the over 600,000 civilians in Iraq that have died because a few evil people in our government triggered an event. I am also concerned about the homeless... mentally ill or not that are dying on our streets as people walk past them, call them bums, drunks and all of the rest of that self-righteous crap. Many of them are burnt alive for fun by street gangs. These people are being tortured. I got the feeling that maybe, I said maybe one or both of you were looking for anti-semitic sentiment. If you have a preconceived notion or feeling for whatever reason, I can not purge your system of it. I have heard the testimonials of people from all countries face to face and sometimes at dinner. This would include my own relatives. Too bad what I wrote was lost.

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Carla April 14, 2007 9:16 pm (Pacific time)

That's what I'm reading, too, Albert (see Alice's post). You'll catch the last line of my posting, which comments on the continued horrendous sufferings of other groups of people, world-wide. That doesn't, however, take away from the suffering of millions of innocent Jews.

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Alice April 14, 2007 1:53 pm (Pacific time)

You are right that other people did suffer tremendously during WW2, Albert, but it seems as though you feel that the suffering of the Jews didn't really matter too much. Am I reading something into the message? Because it seems as though that is what you are saying.

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Albert Marnell April 14, 2007 3:14 am (Pacific time)

You are right Carla but don't the other 54 million people killed and tortured during the Second World War matter too? Other people besides Jews suffered and this woman would be the first to admit it.....I hope. Does she really have a monopoly on the world's worst horror story? Ask some people that died in Siberian work camps at the hands of Stalin...who was just as cruel as Hitler and murdered in much greater numbers. Some people find what I just wrote politically inncorrect, but it is the truth.

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Carla April 13, 2007 9:16 pm (Pacific time)

God bless this courageous woman. To have gone through what she and thousands of innocent people did at the hands of monsters, and then to force herself to re-live it again and again takes incredible courage. There but for the grace of God go any of us. My Lord and Savior was Jewish, and anyone who calls him/herself a Christian should be outraged, as I am, that such an unholy massacre occurred. It's *still* occurring in other countries today, even now, in the name of religion.

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Et Tu Brute April 13, 2007 7:10 pm (Pacific time)

Thow doth pondereth too much!

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Forgot My Last Handle April 13, 2007 6:29 pm (Pacific time)

I made a valid point BandT, why did you delete the truth? It was presented honestly and with compassion but may have touched a nerve with the politically correct. I love you two and you don't even know it.

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