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Rounding Up Years of 911 Stories on Salem-News.com

We offer this list of critical reviews of the government's version of the 9/11 events from one year ago...

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(SALEM, Ore.) - This roundup of stories about 9/11 represents the work of a large number of our writers who sometimes have a hard time sleeping over the nagging, agonizing facts that we do know about what happened on 11 September 2001. Granted, there is a great deal we do not know, but there is ample evidence to prove to anyone with a reasonable comprehension of science and physics, that little of what the government claims is even physically possible, and absolutely untrue.

Scientists, researchers and reporters who are willing to place pursuit of truth in front of other goals, now comprise more than a loosely knit support team; their numbers are growing and include every age group, race, culture and economic status.

In this case, many who indulge the subject are professors and media professionals who sometimes eloquently, sometimes sharply, dismiss the obvious problems with the story the Bush administration offered. It is not a small list and once you have taken a close look, it becomes all the more amazing that anyone ever believed the story in the first place. All it took was bad human motivation and people who are under the illusion that nobody in America could be so dastardly, are sorely mistaken.

For those who know real U.S. history, it is not difficult to imagine a band of people who are sick and rotten to the core managing to make this happen from the inside.

It was discussed how something like this very event was needed to build national unity... the brainchild of right-wing think tanks. The U.S.S.R. had collapsed, the west needed a new enemy, and had no interest in maintaining world peace just like today. A man named bin Laden hated the U.S. because American troops went to the Middle east to toss Saddam Hussein's forces out of Kuwait. As one of he leaders of the guerrilla forces (Mujaheddin) that defeated the Russians on behalf of Afghanistan, he wanted his own victorious Jihadists to battle Iraq. However much he hated the U.S., he denied any involvement in the attacks on the United States and that is a fact that strongly contradicts the Bush story all by itself.

I was pleased to be able to gather this somewhat complete list of stories we have published on 9/11 and Usama bin Laden. There are more stories, these are not in chronological order, but it is a good sampling of what has been published here, and it is a never ending list.

Remembering 9/11 - Salem-News.Com

Sep 12, 2009 ... I was in a small town called El Centro. We had gone there to work in an
elementary school teaching young students to read. Many of these ...

www.salem-news.com/articles/.../remembering_911_9-12-09.php
  • Salem-News.com's Tim King Appears Live on Russia TV America ...

    Mar 2, 2010 ... How could 200 thousand tons of steel drop to the ground in under 11 seconds
    because of a fire? Over a thousand architects and engineers say ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/march022010/rtv-911-tk.php
  • Catholic Bishop Publicly Criticizes Official Story of 9/11 (VIDEO ...

    Dec 9, 2008 ... I was flat out amazed today to hear a Roman Catholic Bishop state a number of
    points about September 11th 2001, that I have written about in ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../bishop_spet11_12-9-08.php
  • International Law Expert: Ahmadinejad is Right about 9/11 - Salem ...

    Sep 26, 2010 ... Ahmadinejad is absolutely rational and correct on this, that the American people
    are now coming to the point of demanding an international ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../ahmadinejad-rational-fl.php
  • 911 'Week of Truth' Calls Official Story Into Question (VIDEO ...

    Apr 13, 2008 ... How can two planes knock down three (World Trade Center) buildings? Jet fuel
    is four-fifths kerosene, it doesn't burn hot. How can three ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../911_revisited_4-13-08.php
  • Group Asks Americans to Hold Cheney/Bush Accountable For 9/11 ...

    Oct 18, 2009 ... President George W. Bush put Vice-President Dick Cheney in charge on 9/11 by
    Executive Order months in advance of the tragic event that ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/october182009/bush_911.php
  • Dutch Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko Dies In Car Crash - Salem ...

    Jul 23, 2011 ... WTC7, a 47 storey building, the third tallest building, which was not hit by a plane
    , which was conspicuously missing in the 9/11 commission ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/july232011/danny-jowenko-dm.php
  • Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: The Road to 9/11 and Beyond ...

    Sep 10, 2009 ... The attacks on September 11, 2001 have been a defining moment for America.
    Although the losses were not great in terms of urban slaughter ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../911_revisited_as_9-10-09.php
  • Documentary is an Indictment of Current U.S. Administration ...

    Sep 10, 2006 ... Documentary "911 Loose Change" is nearing the top of the charts in .... 9/11:
    Gordon Duff Discusses New Video of Cruise Missile Attack on ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../loose_change_review_51406.php
  • When War is Promoted as a Remedy for Terror: Reflections on the ...

    3 days ago ... On the tenth-anniversary year of the 9/11 debacle, President Obama boasted to
    the world that his government had murdered in Pakistan ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/september072011/911-facts-ah.php
  • Charlie Sheen EXTREMELY POWERFUL Video Address To Obama, Demands ...

    Sep 10, 2009 ... Sheen speaks on behalf of the families of the victims of the 911 ... We are on
    the wrong track and a good deal of it started after 911. ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/september102009/sheen_9-10-09.php
  • What Real Motivation was Behind the Terrorist Attacks on the United ...

    1 day ago ... Almost 3000 innocent people died, and freedom we enjoyed before 9/11 was
    abridged by the same government that claimed it wanted to ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/september092011/terrorist-questions-tb.php
  • Wyden Amendment to Make CIA Inspector General Report Public ...

    Mar 7, 2007 ... Wyden's amendment to the “Improving America's Security by Implementing
    Unfinished Recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007” ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/march072007/911_wyden_3607.php
  • The Day The Bush War on Terror Began - Salem-News.Com

    2 hours ago ... The hallowed burial grounds of 9/11 were supposed to bequeath us a stronger
    nation, not a busted one. We were supposed to be left with a ...

  • What has Happened to Veterans Today? - Salem-News.Com

    Aug 15, 2011 ... This is the 9/11 conspiracy theory that the mainstream media cannot get enough
    of, because it allows it's well-paid lackeys; commentators and ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/august152011/veterans-today-al.php

  • Christmas Day Crotch Bomber Tied to Israel, FBI - Salem-News.Com

    Feb 7, 2010 ... Born and raised in New Mexico, Al-Awlaki moved to Yemen in 2004 after
    advising the two 911 hijackers who trained in San Diego. He also ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../crotch_bomber_jg.php
  • Another False Flag - Salem-News.Com

    Nov 1, 2010 ... The restrictions began on 911 with The Patriot Act being enacted 45 days later,
    followed by the War Powers Act and the Military Commissions ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/november012010/false-flag-jm.php
  • 'Courage to Resist' Honors Bradley Manning, Wikileaks and Other ...

    Feb 18, 2011 ... When wikileaks brings the truth about 911, then get back to me. I am in a network
    that watches for government de-classified documents. Today ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../courage-to-resist-tk.php
  • Carnage in Norway - Refreshing the Narrative - Salem-News.Com

    Osama bin Laden Hype Misled Public - Salem-News.Com

    May 4, 2009 ... “If what the government has told us about 9/11 is a lie,” said William Rodriguez, a
    fireman who survived the WTC attack, “somebody has to take ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../ben_laden_kf_5-4-09.php

    The End of Innocence Revisited - Salem-News.Com

    Sep 2, 2011 ... The following piece is a commentary I wrote and circulated amongst friends on
    the 15th of September 2001, just four days after 9/11. At the time ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../911-flashback-ga.php
  • Was '911' Necessary? - Salem-News.Com

    Sep 3, 2011 ... Their business is war and oppression yet the US and NATO leaders and the
    mainstream media announced that democracy is back in Libya; the ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../911-necessity-ar.php
  • With Wikileaks Dead, New 9/11 Deception Ploy In Motion - Salem ...

    Aug 17, 2011 ... Last week, conspiracy buffs were given a magic revelation regarding 9/11.
    Richard Clarke pointed the finger at former CIA director, George ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/august172011/wikileaks-911-gd.php
  • 9/11: The Absurdity of the No-Planes-in-New York Theory - Salem ...

    Aug 1, 2011 ... Fetzer spouting his damaging no-planes-in-New York disinformation in an article
    hosted by Veterans Today has done just that. So this is ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/august012011/no-planes_al.php
  • Gearing Up for 911 - Salem-News.Com

    Sep 3, 2011 ... Ten years - a minor grade anniversary for a horrendous event that plagues
    Americans in ways most still can't see. The Bush administration ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/september032011/gear-up-911-tk.php
  • The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government ...

    Sep 11, 2009 ... In John Farmer's book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America's Defense
    on 9/11″, the author builds the inescapably convincing case ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../911_truth_9-11-09.php
  • Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake - Salem-News ...

    Jun 29, 2011 ... Many years ago I read a fascinating discussion of the tactics of mistake. This
    essentially entailed using a target's prejudices and preconceptions ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/june292011/israel-911-as.php
  • 9/11: A Conspiracy Beyond Theory - Salem-News.Com

    Aug 29, 2011 ... Let's say Mossad, Israel's intelligence deceivers, speaking perfect Arabic and
    pretending to be Arabs, infiltrated an Al Qaeda cell and hatched a ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/august292011/beyond-911-pb.php
  • 911, 'How' or 'Who' - Salem-News.Com

    Mar 3, 2011 ... The original report describing the destruction of the World Trade Center as
    resulting from heat from jet fuel fires, a relatively low temperature ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/march032011/911-how-who-gd.php
  • The Next 9/11-Made in Israel? - Salem-News.Com

    May 1, 2010 ... Citing the possibility of a terrorist organization getting nuclear weapons as the
    greatest threat to U.S. security, Barack Obama persuaded 46 ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/may012010/911-israel-mo.php
  • 9/11 Reflections Part 2: Interview with Simon Shack of September ...

    Sep 12, 2010 ... Simon Shack is emphatic: “nobody died on September eleventh.” I am talking to
    him in Rome, via Skype.He has recently asked me if I believe ...

    www.salem-news.com/articles/.../911-reflections-ew.php
    1. Richard Falk Under Fire for 9/11 Comments on his Personal Blog ...

      Jan 26, 2011 ... UN Human Rights Council, and law professor Richard Falk, is under fire from the
      usual suspects for expressing skepticism about the official ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/january262011/richard-falk-dm.php
    2. A Little Known Fact About the 9/11 Planes - Salem-News.Com

      Mar 18, 2010 ... Extract: ...it would be a remarkable irony, and quite possibly a unique
      circumstance in the annals of American jurisprudence, if the assumptions ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/march182010/911-planes-al.php
    3. Mainstream Media Questions Inaccuracies in 9/11 Story - Salem ...

      Feb 24, 2010 ... The mainstream press is showing interest in a taboo, however glaring subject;
      the inconsistencies in the Bush White House 9/11 account.

      www.salem-news.com/articles/february242010/911_truth.php
    4. 'Dulles Airport' Shadow Disproves US Government's 9/11 ...

      Mar 9, 2011 ... Nearly a decade after the heinous crimes known simply as “9/11” we can finally
      conclude with absolute certainty that our nation has been ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/march092011/911-discovery-ssj.php
    5. Makers of 9/11 Documentary 'Loose Change' Fight Back During ...

      Mar 9, 2010 ... I have never met the producers of the documentary Loose Change , but I would
      call their movie the definitive program detailing the problems ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/march092010/loose-change-tk.php
    6. Michigan Cop Busted in Marijuana Brownie Overdose Call to 911 ...

      May 18, 2007 ... Mixed messages abound in a story about a 28-year old Dearborn, Michigan
      police officer named Edward Sanchez, who called 911 and said he ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/.../cop_brownies_51807.php
    7. Operation Cyanide and Israel's Role in 9/11 - Salem-News.Com

      Mar 20, 2010 ... They say when you are in the military, that you are expendable; flat out
      government property. For Uncle Sam's sake you will do what you're told ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/.../operation-cyanide-tk.php
    8. Outfoxing the 9/11 Coverup - Salem-News.Com

      Sep 24, 2009 ... When 9/11 Commission Chief Counsel, John Farmer, released his book, The
      Ground Truth, debunking his own 9/11 commission report and ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/.../outfoxing_911_gd_9-24-09.php
    9. Richard Falk Is Right on 9/11-Will Obama and Friends Forsake Falk ...

      Jan 26, 2011 ... Richard Falk, UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in Occupied Palestine, is
      under fire for writing what is obviously true about the U.S. ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/january262011/falk-911-ml.php

    1. Waging The Battle for Reality - Salem-News.Com

      May 29, 2011 ... Jonathan Kay's Among the Truthers was written to coincide with the tenth
      anniversary of the contested events of 9/11. Its contents vividly ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/may292011/911-truth-al.php
    2. Gov. Jesse Ventura Proves There was a Cover-Up Over 9/11 ...

      Dec 22, 2010 ... Confirmed sources in the Nigerian government tell us, in order to keep former
      Vice President Cheney out of prison for crimes involving Nigeria, ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/.../cheney-ventura-gd.php
    3. Two thirds of Australians Believe 9/11 Was an Inside Job - Salem ...

      Oct 22, 2010 ... When staunch conservative Kevin Bracken, on the ABC show “Talk Back”
      publicly aired his views on American government complicity in the ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/october222010/aussies-911-gd.php
    4. UN Human Rights Official Claims 9/11 Was US Plot - Salem-News ...

      Jan 26, 2011 ... Richard Falk, a retired professor from Princeton University, wrote on his blog that
      there had been an apparent cover up by American authorities.

      www.salem-news.com/articles/january262011/911-falk.php
    5. 9/11 Reflections Part 1: The Elephant and the Mosquito - Salem ...

      Sep 10, 2010 ... What happens when a mosquito bites an elephant? The answer to this question
      lies at the intersection between myth and reality. The Big Lies ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/september102010/911-part-1-ew.php
    6. New York Judges Fight New Investigation of 9/11 - Salem-News.Com

      Oct 13, 2009 ... On October 8th, Justice Edward Lehner of the State Supreme Court, rubberstamped
      Referee Louis Crespo's recommendation that the decision to ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/.../911_review_10-13-09.php
    7. Ten Years After 9/11: What We Know and Where Do We Go ...

      1 hour ago ... Middle East correspondent of The Independent, Robert Fisk recently wrote: “By
      their books, ye shall know them…In the years since, of course, ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/september102011/ten-years-after-911-ef.php
    8. Alan Hart Breaks Silence about 9/11 on the Kevin Barrett Show ...

      May 26, 2010 ... Breaking his self-imposed rule against talking about 9/11, former Senior BBC
      Mideast Correspondent and author Alan Hart described what he ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/may262010/hart-911kb.php
    9. Troubling Questions Lead to Demands for 9/11 Truth - Salem-News ...

      28 minutes ago ... At every 9/11 anniversary emotions run high, wounds rip open and the shock
      horror that changed our lives forever, resurfaces again.What also ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/september112011/911-trouble-ss.php
    10. 9/11 -The Unidentified Murder Weapons - Salem-News.Com

      Oct 12, 2010 ... The four aircraft which crashed on September 11th, 2001 have never been
      forensically matched to the four passenger planes which were ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/october122010/911-truth-al.php

    1. Who's Afraid of 9/11 Conspiracy Theories? - Salem-News.Com

      Apr 3, 2010 ... In their denials of involvement in 9/11, do Israel's apologists “protest too much”?
      While it would take a small book to adequately .....

      www.salem-news.com/articles/.../conspiracy-theory-mc.php
    2. Comment on Judy Wood's 'The New Hiroshima' - Salem-News.Com

      Apr 26, 2011 ... (SAN FRANCISCO) - This detailed comment is from the Preamble of a study
      based on Judy Wood's 9/11 work which I had started but never ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/april262011/woods-hiroshima-ze.php
    3. The Norway Manifesto: A New Bin Laden Is Born (Video) - Salem ...

      Aug 1, 2011 ... “The Norway massacre: Is it a coincidence, is it another 9/11 or is it something
      that has been brewing for years now and nobody took notice of ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/august012011/new-bin-laden-ae.php
    4. Huge Contradictions in Official Theories on 9/11 Crash at Pentagon ...

      Apr 7, 2006 ... A recent article on the questions behind what actually crashed into the Pentagon
      September 11th 2001, prompted a good deal of feedback on ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/april072006/757_bytim2_32306.php
    5. Ahmad Massoud: the Lion in the Path of Understanding 9/11 ...

      2 days ago ... Never in my wildest dreams could I have guessed that my greatest questions
      about the 9/11 tragedy- would come from a Lion.Indeed, the real ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/september082011/lion-911-tk.php
    6. An American-Palestinian Reflection on 9/11 - Salem-News.Com

      2 hours ago ... Dr. Mazin Qumsiyeh, an American Palestinian, spent several years teaching
      genetics at Yale University. Today he teaches and does research ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/september102011/palestine-911-rd.php
    7. Corvallis Police Release 911 Call in Homicide Investigation (AUDIO ...

      Aug 13, 2009 ... The Corvallis Police and the Benton County Major Crimes Team are contuing to
      actively investigate the murder of 78-year old Yvonne C. Perry.

      www.salem-news.com/articles/.../corv_911_death_8-13-09.php
    8. Munich and the Five 911's - Salem-News.Com

      Jul 6, 2010 ... As much as Israel tries to remind the world, few remember much of the 1972
      Olympics, even the killing of eleven Israeli athletes. Five of the ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/july062010/five-911s-gd.php
    9. Real Aircraft, Unlike 9/11, Crashes Killing Polish President - Salem ...

      Apr 11, 2010 ... Photos of the recent Tupelov plane crash in Russia, shows massive amounts of
      airplane crash debris on the ground.The 9/11 crash sites at the ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/april112010/plane-crashes.php
    10. 9/11 Planners Confess on Network Television - Salem-News.Com

      Aug 24, 2010 ... How can a nation like the United States be duped into two wars and total
      bankruptcy? It would be one thing if the “truth” about 9/11 was internet ...

      www.salem-news.com/articles/august242010/911-confession-gd.php

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    Anonymous September 11, 2012 12:48 pm (Pacific time)

    So another day, another conspiracy story. Seems you all will go to your graves dealing with this mass delusion, and no traction anywhere other than in your own little fantasy world. Amusing.

    Tim King: You think the murder of thousands of Americans is amusing?


    September 11, 2012 7:10 am (Pacific time)

    The main excuse "do you know how many people"etc.  That is a lame excuse. Anything can be accomplished by doing things compartmentally (sp). A quick simple example: 200 people working on a mechanical part. 200 more people from a different company working on another mechanical part, Another company has 300 people working on electrical parts. The companies dont know what the parts are for nor do they care, they just want to be paid. The parts are all shipped to a government owned facility, with about 5 people. The 5 people put the parts together and voila, a nuke bomb. And only 5 people know about it. Its the same with 911. The FAA was told there was a training event going on. (proven). So they had no clue what was going on. And, there were several close to the situation that spoke out. They are all dead or missing. This could have easily been accomplished with very few knowing. The left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing etc. so PLEASE stop using the excuse that there are too many people etc. As far as the seals, NO, they did not lie. They were bamboozled. And many SEALS figured it out. Thats why several of them died in a questionable helicopter crash.
     And as another poster mentioned, dont get distracted, stick with building 7, the smoking gun.
     I know several posts here that go with the original story are simply people with stockholm syndrome. They fall in love with their captor.


    Anonymous September 13, 2011 4:54 pm (Pacific time)

    I watched a documentary awhile back about the American Indians and a certain kind of horse. Mustangs maybe? I cant remember. But the American Indians, know these great horses well, and used them to win battles against the west. After the west, using their firepower superiority, conquered these American Indians, the west killed every single horse (it may not have been mustangs, cant remember the breed)but they killed everyone of these horses they could find. I think Tim King's comparison in regards to the American Indians, to the plight of the Palistinians, is somewhat appropriate. And for those who wonder why some are angry, please dont blame it on their skin color, or religion, blame it on their countries being invaded and exploited by the western world. Ron Paul understands this, and wants to put an end to it.


    Anonymous September 13, 2011 9:14 am (Pacific time)

    Explain the Islamofascist attacks and murders elsewhere around the globe: Spain, London, Bali, Mumbai, etc. etc. etc.

    Editor: I can't 'explain' attacks that happen in other places.  I suspect it is always tied to what Israel does against the Palestinians.


    Cecelia September 12, 2011 2:36 pm (Pacific time)

    Editor: This individual, as it turns out, posts under different names and therefore violates the established rules of the Salem-News.com comment section.  Similar attempts at fraudulent representation will be treated the same way, they will be deleted.

     


    Bart September 12, 2011 2:02 pm (Pacific time)

    Editor I have spent over 17 years living in many different parts of the world, mostly areas that were Muslim, and who used Sharia as the basis of their legal, as well as educational framework. Maybe if you went abroad for a few years to say Iran, Palestine, maybe Egypt, you would have a better understanding of how this part of the world works. You need to live here for a while, not just a short time that most tourists and soldiers do. As far as slavery, Muslims were the chief slavers, and sub-Saharan Africans certainly were number two, going back many centuries ago, but are now number one in that wretched enterprise. The below article is what's happening today on the domestic front, but in time the balkanization will reach an epidemic level in our cities (and some suburbs). It will be clear to even confused people, that the real violent people have always been the same across time. It is a DNA reality young man. By the way have you ever seen an official census for Native Americans from the top of North America down to the bottom of South America? Seems when you grab what you think are facts, are nothing more than the things goofy people write who have no academic background to assure that their numbers can be replicated by sound social science methodologies. Some people fall easy for propaganda, maybe that's why they will always be walking in a headwind of relentless fog? "Cherokee Nation Revokes Citizenship Rights of Black Slave Descendants." http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/09/09/cherokee-nation-revokes-citizenship-rights-of-black-slave-descendants/

    Editor: You can dress it up, you can lie about it, you can do your best to rewrite history, but you will never have an impact on the truth.   I'm sorry you can not get past your fear and paranoia, life is so good for those who can, because the understanding of everything is all you can really achieve.  Naturally, people like yourself who spend their lives stuck in a hate rut are pretty helpless. 

    And with regard to the countries you mentioned and all of their problems,  if I would need to live in these places to see the problems you describe, then must not be very bad at all.  It would take me only one day in Baghdad to show you how bad the Americans can be, so there you go.


    Anonymous September 12, 2011 12:56 pm (Pacific time)

    Tens of millions of Indians killed? Gee, where did you get that number? May I suggest actually taking some coursework in this area? North American Indians were constantly at war, like all other parts of the world. There is no peaceful history at all for this highly diverse and combative population.

     Editor: Right, and the moon is a jellyfish in my cereal bowl, here is the data from Wiki Answers:

    Two studies have been conducted that attempt to number the natives killed by the United States. The first of these was sponsored by the United States government, and while official does not stand up to scrutiny and is therefore discounted (generally); this estimate shows between 1 million to 4 million killed. The second study was not sponsored by the US Government but was done from independent researchers. This study estimated populations and population reductions using later census data. Two figures are given, both low and high, at: between 10 million and 114 million indians as a direct result of US actions. Please note that Nazi Holocaust estimates are between 6 and 11 million; thereby making the Nazi Holocaust the 2nd largest mass murder of a class of people in history.

     The bottom line is that here in America, and in western countries, people of diverse cultures can often live without significant fear of violence.

     Editor: What? You are a ridiculous truth killer or you are so detached that you fail to even register on the integrity meter.  Muslims live in fear, Native Americans live in fear, hell,, homeless Veterans are in the same category, getting 'bum stomped' by those vivacious young American teens in places like Vegas, makes you sparkle with pride doesn't it?  The assholes in New York are trying to keep a mosque from being built, and not one SOB who feels that way is a good American, they are a rotten American who does NOT believe in religious freedom.  

    The poster who listed the below Muslim-oriented countries was simply providing actual reality in today's time frame, not going back ever how many years/decades/centuries to grab bad behavior events. In the lands where Christianity came into being, Christians and their institutions are being wiped out. In various communities in the "west" we are seeing radical Islamists forces developing.

     Editor: You need to put the crack pipe down mister, you are wrong on every count, name a country killing Christians right now (other than Israel)... I can name a small handful that kill Muslims every day, but you are making it up as you go. 

    So editor, maybe you should also do some historical analysis of Islam and see the violence that it has created. It literally dwarfs the western bad behavior you have been listing, but then you have an agenda, which is why people like you will never understand your current reality, for you do not know your history.

     Editor: This is your last post here, I could run circles around you in terms of historical knowledge with my engines idling.  The problem is being instigated by the west, by the fake Christians and Jews like yourself, the Muslims are not starting it.  As for the rich stupid Muslims that live high on the hog thanks to mutual back scratching with the USA- screw that, I am not here to advocate for them and never was, but it is oddly fitting that the most controlling and off their rocker Muslims, the Wahhabi faith in Saudi Arabia, are A-OK with the Bush family.  The very worst are fine, the poor Muslims are who people of your ilk want to see die.  We are their advocates and thanks to Salem-News.com, they have a voice and are represented and there is jack shit you can do about it.  

    There are real advantages of a college education that "google" cannot provide. For example Muslims enslaved literally millions of Europeans, look it up, and see how many Muslims did we grab and have work/labor as unpaid slaves? We have been at war with Islam for over 1,000 years and it will only end when they cease to exist, for they cannot win, God is on our side, they have Lucifer.

    Editor: I thought you were a present case guy, but you switch it out at will.  America's actions in the world suck, Israel is a bastard child of war and religious oppression and I sincerely hope it all grinds to a halt very soon.  I also look forward to the other insanities that will plague men like you who had a chance to try to be for peace, but you for whatever reason are only here to advocate violence and the erosion of the poor, the cultures you don't understand.  You're the devil and you represent his interests, make no mistake about it.

    Insha'Allah and Semper fi.


    Bart September 12, 2011 10:04 am (Pacific time)

    We all can only pray and hope the environment of hate we have going on in the world can diminish so we all can be safe in the future. When people are trained at an early age to be intolerant of diversity, and their government in effect institutionalizes non-tolerant beliefs/behaviors, then future hostilities will present constantly. Forthwith is a sampling of differfent governments which represent millions of people who have no tolerance for American values:HOW ABOUT THESE CODES AND RULES:

    Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal. Easter celebrations are illegal. It is punishable by death for a non-mulsim to enter the “holy” muslim cities of Medina and Mecca.

    Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship.

    Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam.

    Egypt - Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith (up to and including death). Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship.

    Northern Cyprus - About 133 churches, chapels and monasteries have been converted to military storage facilities, stables and night-clubs. Seventy-eight churches have been converted to mosques, and dozens more are used as military facilities, medical storage facilities, or stockyards or hay barns, according to statistics from The Republic of Cyprus. Agia Anastasia Church in Lapithos was converted into a hotel and casino, while the Sourp Magar Armenian monastery – founded in the medieval period – was converted into a cafeteria.

    Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution. The country has passed the “Regulation of Religious Practice” law, which stipulates a punishment of two to five years’ imprisonment and heavy fines for anyone convicted of urging a Muslim to change his religion.

    Syria - The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim and specifies that Islamic jurisprudence is a principal source of legislation. Sharing your Christian faith is discouraged as “posing a threat to the relations among religious groups” and carries a penalty of up to life in prison. A Christian is not allowed to proselytize – ever. Churches who want to hold an extra service must get a government permit. Sermons are routinely monitored, as is church fundraising.

    Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

    Sudan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.

    Pakistan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims. Christians regularly put in prison for charges of blasphemy. Islam is the state religion, and in a court of law the testimony of a Christian carries less weight than that of a Muslim. Section 295(c) of the Penal Code calls for a death sentence for anyone who defiles the name of the Prophet Muhammad and requires the testimony of four Muslims for a conviction. This fosters an environment in which Muslims can feel free to use intimidation and violence against religious minorities for personal gain. Also, if any criminal Muslim rape with any Christian female and then take plea that she has accepted Islam and marry with him. Such person is not culpable under Pakistani criminal law

    Qatar - Islamic instruction is compulsory in public schools. The government regulates the publication, importation, and distribution of non-Islamic religious literature. The government continues to prohibit proselytizing of Muslims by non-Muslims.

    Malaysia - Under Malaysian law, any convert to Christianity must apply to a shariah (Muslim law) court to legally renounce Islam. Many Christians prefer to remain silent converts rather than take their battle to the shariah courts, where apostasy or conversion out of Islam is punishable by whipping, fines, imprisonment and—in the most extreme application—death. In a country where Muslims account for more than half of the population, conversion from Islam is punished with a 5-year prison sentence and a $3,000 fine. A Malaysian Muslim who marries a non-Muslim and who converts the non-Muslim to Islam is rewarded with an apartment, a car, a one-time payment of $2,700, and a monthly stipend of $270.

    The Maldives - In the island paradise visited by tens of thousands of tourists each year, Christianity is simply not tolerated. While local Christians – said to number around 300 out of a total population of 300,000 – do get together to worship, they do so at the risk of imprisonment or worse if discovered by the Muslim authorities. Bibles are banned, and tourists can be arrested for trying to bring them into the country.

    England - Bradford, Yorkshire, UK. Pop. 300,000 - 20% Islamic. Local police required to tell community elders the location of girls who run away to escape arranged marriages. Bars and liquor stores in the Lumb Lane / Manningham Lane area of the city ‘requested’ to close on Fridays. Schools, colleges, and health clinics have to have separate areas for women, with a copy of the Koran available. Public critcism of Islam or it’s adherents, such as letters to the local paper, emails to friends, speeches etc, can and has led to criminal charges ‘Using words intentionally and wilfully to cause fear, hate, or distress. Christmas decorations not to be put up, as this may make the Moslems feel ‘culturally overshadowed’. Shops ‘requested’ not to display easter eggs for the same reason. The term ‘requested’ means not legally enforceable but local police warn that they cannot intervene if your premises get ‘damaged’ somehow. Local councillors and MPs have encouraged all this for the past 15 years. Bradford Northwest MP Ann Cryer regularly appears with long sleeves and her head covered. She once stated that women in Islam are properly liberated and that Islam is an example to us all.

    Did you use the CIA world factbook to arrive at these conclusions?  Yes, there are problems everywhere on this planet connected to religion, but who is doing the killing?  Who has killed the civilians?  Oh right, t he Americans.

     Editor: A nation founded  on the premise of freedom of religion

    A nation that eliminated tens of millions of Native Americans so effectively that Adolf Hitler himself modeled the Holocaust over it

    The country that revived the witch trials in Salem, Mass.  Where young women and girls would have their breasts 'checked' for signs of witchcraft (Those married middle aged men who checked them apparently had real talent- knowing if a chick is a witch by feeling her up)

    A country that actually allowed human beings to be 'owned' by other human beings.

    A country that experienced Civil War over its desire to keep 'owning' human beings.

    A nation of Jim Crow Laws

    The place where the Ku Klux Klan was formed

    The country that pillaged the Philippines at the turn of the 20th century proclaiming that anyone 'over 12' was a combatant.

    A country that ordered its army to fire on WWI veterans who were camped out on the Washington D.C. capitol lawn hoping to receive a long-overdue check that had been promised to them.  The U.S. Army shot and killed the veteran's wives and children.

    The  same country that imprisoned Japaneses American citizens over race and pathetic levels of racism.

    The United States didn't even desegregate the military until 1947.

    There is no worse place for taking care of its war veterans, for pillaging world resources, for damaging the planet, for creating the most deadly killer weapons ever known to man.

    A land where simple infrastructure needs of communities are over looked so that $80 million-each fighter jets can be built to crush human beings with overwhelming firepower.

    The U.S. backs Israel's Genocide of Palestinians, the U.S. has extremely corrupt mainstream media crammed up the backside of the business and corporate whores and sluts who use the name of God as badly as any of  the groups named above.

     What I could do is keep going, almost every event I listed happened before I was born and we are a thousand times worse now than then.  So yes, there are some serious problems in the world relating to religious fundamentalism.  The part that people overlook is that the worst ones are the allies of the U.S. and it is all money and oil based, which proves where the real allegiances lie.  Iran protects its Jewish citizens with specific laws.  Israel does every bad act man is capable of in the name of God- and what a crock of shit that is.  Muslim people have been shoved and pushed and stolen from and they are eternally demonized.  Those who practice the true faith are the finest people in existence, and those who pervert the words of God to create laws are doing everything wrong.  The thing is though, that almost nothing listed by Bart references the U.S.  That is problematic.  Israel kills non-Jews each day but these countries are not exterminating Jews and Christians.  

     


    September 12, 2011 7:45 am (Pacific time)

    Tom: your statement has been de-bunked long ago. No, it would not take thousands, especially when its so compartmentalized. Some are not even aware. And as far as people coming out? Dozens have come out. They get killed or threatened. You really should do your homework, your theory does not hold water.


    Anonymous September 12, 2011 9:49 am (Pacific time)

    michelle...a few muslims burning a flag because they are mad at getting their home countries invaded by the west using lies to do it, and killing hundreds of thousands of their family members with carpet bombing. Its called "blowback". Dear lord, the pro "kill all the brown people" and the "I believe the official story" people come up with some doozies, but never any facts except what the talking points from their banker owned television programs tell them to say. You are all a dieing breed. The majority of Americans, and even families of those who lost their loved ones, want a new investigation. I am not anti-government, we need a government (altho I prefer minimal government), I blog to show people that our government has been taken over by elite foreign bankers. I simply want truth, and my government back. Obama's complete staff is nothing but goldman sachs, JP morgan and Monsanto. I want our military to fight for truth, not the lies of the banksters so they can invade countries for resources and building their world empire.


    Anonymous September 12, 2011 9:25 am (Pacific time)

    those who believe the official story? well, they are a dieing breed, or paid schills. The majority of Americans want a new investigation. AE911truth.com with thousands of respected scientists/physicists that say it was nano-thermite.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlPweD6R3Cc


    Anonymous September 12, 2011 9:08 am (Pacific time)

    rudimentary science: Jet fuel burns at 600 degrees, steel needs 2500 degrees continuously to melt. Ya mean THAT rudimentary science? Undermined the foundation? What are you talking about? Have any science journals to back this? How does a fire undermine a steel foundation? And the fire undermined ALL of the dozens of vertical beams all at the same time? Give me a break. For a building to collapse in its own footprint, needs to have ALL steel vertical beams give way at the same time. And just because I think OBL died long ago, does not mean I think Navy Seals lie. That is your fantasy. They can be manipulated tho. At first, they did believe they got OBL. They followed and believed orders. But after, they began questioning, thats why they are all dead now. All it took, were a couple of people, to shoot the alleged OBL, and drag his body out and dump it in the ocean. Did the navy seals do the DNA test? No. Did they believe the fake DNA test? Probably. You should look up this word: its called "compartmentalization" Its a tactic used for centuries.


    Anonymous September 12, 2011 8:13 am (Pacific time)

    Example: I, Dick Cheney, need to get the building wired for explosives. My friend runs security at the towers. We will tell everyone the work is to upgrade the electrical.
    We will get workers in there to do initial installation, telling them it's a new security set-up. Then, we get 4 guys to plant the nano-thermite.
    There, I just brought buildings down with about 6 people. Oh, and lets see, how we gonna fool FAA and NORAD? I got it, just give NORAD a "drill" (which actually happenned), let the FAA know their is a drill to confuse them.(which actually happened) OK then, I just got planes thru security, all by myself. The theory that thousands knew has been de-bunked over and over with facts. Its does not take that many people to pull this off. The official story says 19 cavemen pulled it off. Which is more crazy?
    The NAVY seals were about to talk, thus, they were all killed. Another coincidence?
    And, fire burns at half the temperature it takes to melt steel.
    The evidence is so overwhelmng that the official story is not true, that I  have come to the conclusion that those who believe the official story, simply don't want to know the truth.

    DJ:Occam's Razor: Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 


    Michelle September 11, 2011 6:08 pm (Pacific time)

    SEE HATE VIDEO: 9/11 anniversary: Muslim protesters burn US flag outside embassy in London A group of Muslim protesters set fire to an American flag outside the US embassy in London during a minute's silence to mark the moment that the first hijacked airliner hit the World Trade Center 10 years ago. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/september-11-attacks/8755834/911-anniversary-Muslim-protesters-burn-US-flag-outside-embassy-in-London.html


    Michelle September 11, 2011 5:51 pm (Pacific time)

    At 8:46am this morning, ten years ago, murderous jihadists crashed American Airlines Flight 11 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center. At 9:03am this morning, ten years ago, murderous jihadists crashed United Airlines Flight 175 into the South Tower of the World Trade Center. At 9:37am this morning, ten years ago, murderous jihadists crashed American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon. At 10:15am this morning, ten years ago, the official notification of the downing of United Airlines Flight 93 into a field at Shanksville, Pa. by murderous jihadists was received by the feds. This is a day to honor the 2,977 innocent men, women, and children slaughtered by evil Islamic jihadists — and to vow that “Never again” remains America’s operational stance, not an empty slogan. Let nothing overshadow their memories today. Remember: “Let’s roll!” Remember: The heroes. Remember: The angels on loan from God. Remember: The 9/11 babies. Remember: Falling Man.


    Tom September 11, 2011 5:49 pm (Pacific time)

    What a bunch of crap. Do you people realize how many people would have to be in on a conspiracy of this magnitude? Thousand upon thousands of people would have to keep secrets that would expose the conspiracy. This is as bad as the people that believe we didn't go to the moon in 1969. Again, the amount of people that would have to be brought into such a huge conspiracy would be astrological! Sept 11, 2001 was a wake up call for American that Islamic Fascists want to destroy America and all we stand for. Try to put some of your hard work towards helping people rather than bring down a great nation. Try to live in some other country and spout off this nonsense and see how far you get.


    sn September 11, 2011 4:43 pm (Pacific time)

    Yeah that's right tim.....the official story has been proven over and over....kids with box cutters who could barely drive cars took a few flying lessons and expertly piloted 4 jumbo jets while taking orders from a boogie man in a cave. They hit two buildings and three collapsed into heaps of dust, molten metal and smoke. They left their pass ports on top of the rubble just to make sure we saw them.... every good american knows these facts....


    Anonymous September 11, 2011 3:00 pm (Pacific time)

    Quit questioning the official story Tim King. Both bush and obama said so. Janet has called you a terrorist. Maybe we should call DHS on Tim. Building 7 is the smoking gun. Hey all, dont get caught up in the theories of missles or a plane in the pentagon, it does not matter. Focus on building 7. It IS the smoking gun, no doubt.


    Exterminate the enemy September 11, 2011 12:52 pm (Pacific time)

    We Must Never Forget- this was done by Islamic Radicals, not a manmade disaster. Please note when the first tower was hit, the angle impacted 4 floors. When the 2nd jet hit at nearly 590 mph, it involved impacting 6 floors. Dozens of independent radar (all taped) handled by both private and military flight controllers followed all 4 jets to their ultimate crash sites, Witnesses on the ground at the DC and Pennsylvania crash sites were legion. The underground fires that resulted in these New York sites quickly undermined foundations. To think that there is a group of literally thousands of people who designed this event and used explosives to bring down the buildings is utter insane fantasy. Ditto for thinking highly elite SEALS would lie about killing UBL. Those of you who continue with this conspiracy simply cannot grasp rudimentary science, but most of all, you demean very honorable people. I hope your lives come to an incredibly violent and agonizing end real soon. Cartels getting some creative info, rots of ruck.

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