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Documentary is an Indictment of Current U.S. Administration

Documentary "911 Loose Change" is nearing the top of the charts in Google's video section.

Trade Tower NY
Cover shot from "911 Loose Change"

(SALEM) - To sum it up, information revealed in the new documentary `911 Loose Change,' could be called nothing less than a damming charge against the Bush administration. Unlike Michael Moore`s Fahrenheit 911, this narrator does not throw casual insults out against the president or use the storyline for entertainment. Instead, he delivers a point that will leave most red-blooded Americans angry and seeking answers.

For years, Americans have voiced opinions about how too many things about 911 don`t fit. This team may be the first to take the pieces and put them into their correct place.

Perhaps the biggest lesson in all of it is that blind dedication to any political leadership can lead down the darkest of roads, an ironic thought in this so-called information age. When a person begins hearing the little publicized information contained in 911 Loose Change, visions of a dastardly president and his men running rampant through the halls of American civilization become possible. Many things a person recalls about September 11th come back in a different light. But at the same time, the program has to be highly scrutinized because it does contain factual errors.

Our interest in the subject arises from the questionable story the government offered in the case of Flight 77, the 757 reported to crash into the Pentagon September 11th, 2001. The biggest problem is that the plane left no wreckage; windows in the Pentagon squarely in the path of the alleged plane`s wings are unbroken. Nine-foot titanium steel engine casings do not melt, according to crash site expert Doug Scroggins in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University, says "What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass."

Airplanes do not turn into liquid.

And while one talking head for the Bush administration says the plane "became like liquid," another named Allyn Kilsheimer, who is the CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. said, "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Fairly amazing that a government suit was allowed to enter a bio hazard area full of human remains and "handle them" and that a liquid airplane could somehow yield them at all. You can read the article yourself, and tell me whether you believe like your intelligence is under assault:

A government spokesperson stated that there was no wreckage because the plane became more like liquid when it hit the building, yet all but 5 of the plane`s 189 passengers were recovered and identified? All cameras that would show a 757 hitting the building were seized, and the release of just one would settle this debate. The only footage released by the government comes from a Pentagon camera, and even those five frames look nothing like a 757.

Why doesn`t the government release believable or at least physically possible information to diffuse the situation?

An interesting and highly applicable side note is that I am also an aircraft crash site researcher, and a former U.S. Marine who served in the 3rd Marine Air Wing, working directly with fighter jets and helicopters. I have written and produced many stories in my career about plane crash sites, often resolving questions for families, decades after the fact.

That includes the Oregon Public Broadcasting documentary "Fallen Fortress at Cape Lookout," which retold the story of the WWII B-17 bomber crash atop Oregon's Cape Lookout, through the eyes of the sole survivor, half a century after it happened.

Critics come out of the woodwork over this theory but they can't explain what happened at the Pentagon, or they lie about it, or they believe things that to most people are unbelievable under normal curcumstances. I know a lot about airplane crash sites and I have associates who know more and the government is not coming clean, and increasing numbers of red blooded Americans believe they have yet to tell us what really hit the Pentagon.

Americans are running on pure faith if they can't digest this, no matter how hard it is. The forefathers told us to be critical of government and put nothing past nobody.

Maybe the Pentagon 757 just vanished, maybe there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for how the airplane with a 45' diameter (not counting the wings or tail) could disappear and punch a clean round hole 16' in diameter through several walls.

The air traffic controllers at the time said the turn the plane performed before smashing into the Pentagon was not possible in a 757, they had it pegged for a military fighter.

911 Loose Change sets into motion the idea that as Americans, we have all been had. Much of the information is easily verified, some is not.

One interesting, little known fact is that the person behind the security of the World Tade Towers was Marvin Bush, brother of President George W. Bush. According to Wikepedia, (or any other source you care to look it up under) he was a board member of the organization, Securacom/Stratesec, which was in charge of security at the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport, and United Airlines during a two year contract which was set to end on September 10th, 2001, only a day before the 9/11 attacks. Coincidence?

In the documentary, it is reported that bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the trade towers six days before 9/11. New York firefighters are shown talking about the number of explosions that rocked the buildings before they came down. Those firefighters believe that the buildings were imploded, that the airplanes crashing into them did not bring them down. It is also reported that crews working at ground zero found molten metal in the elevator shafts weeks after 9/11. This is consistent with the buildings having been intentionally destroyed from within. In the program, they show `puffs" blowing out of the trade towers as they collapse, then they compare that footage to implosions of buildings and it is remarkably similar.

Apparently the number of skyscrapers that have been destroyed by fire is very low. In fact, the program claims that it has never happened, showing real footage of one building after another that burned but failed to collapse. The people who built the twin towers specifically built them to withstand the crash of a large airliner, that is a fact that is easily verified.

The program`s creators base their theory on the actual temperature reached by consistently burning jet fuel, which is similar in nature to kerosene. According to the figures offered, it would take a consistent temperature of 3,000 degrees farenheit to melt steel, and kerosene only burns at 2,000 degrees, not to mention that much of the jet fuel aboard the planes disbursed upon impact. Steel engineers and jet fuel experts should be consulted to test the documentary`s claims, as the information should have few variables.

The documentary claims that the Al Jazeera network released a statement from Osama Bin Laden immediately after the bombing, in which he states that he had no connection to the attacks against the United States. Al Jazeera was bombed by U.S. troops in the early stages of the war in Iraq. When the first videotape of Bin Laden was located by American troops, all agreed that it was an amazing find.

911 Loose Change states that while every FBI Wanted Poster claims Bin Laden is left handed, and that is true, the tape found by U.S. troops shows him writing a note with his right hand, and wearing a ring that would be prohibited by Islamic law. When the video images are compared to his picture on the wanted poster, similarities are few.

Of course those tapes were used to perpetuate an overseas war that has already killed tens of thousands. If they are the real image of Bin Laden, then our nation is on track. I have to wonder how the experts could have missed such obvoius differences.

The program also shows records of Osama Bin Laden being treated in an American hospital just months before the attack on America, and in the process receiving a visit from a CIA agent, just months before the September 11th attacks, according to news reports that are cited. Under President Clinton, Bin Laden was a wanted man.

There was also gold stored at the trade towers. After all, think of their purpose. New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani proudly told the public that they had recovered $243 million in gold bars that were stored underneath the buildings. The program suggests that the gold stored underneath the World Trade Towers was more in the neighborhood of $163 billion. There is no record of the missing $162 billion plus, nor is there official verification of that amount. Amounts that were tabulated however, did exceed the recovered amount.

Flight recorders are made of the strongest materials known to man. That is why one FAA spokesman in 911 Loose Change states he "does not remember ever not recovering the flight recorders in a domestic flight." Yet only one flight recorder survived 911 with recoverable data, according to the government, out of four planes that are alleged to have crashed that day. The program points to the flight recorders not surviving, yet the passport of the alleged hijacker is found on the Manhattan street below, legible, and it is made of paper.

There is nothing to be taken lightly about the accusations and information presented in 911 Loose Change. The program`s creators made errors, like stating that a B-52 crashed into the Empire State Building, when in fact the plane was a B-25. They claim that the arrangement of fighter jets on September 11th left "only 14 to defend the entire United States" and this is highly inaccurate. Granted, I believe the producers are talking about the capitol of the United States, but there are hundreds of fighter jets around the nation to defend the `entire United States."

Still, the only answer is to watch the documentary and draw your own conclusions, it could be the most important program you ever watched, and it is free, select the link below.

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This article by Tim King was originally published on May 17th, 2006.


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donald meserlian May 6, 2007 4:26 am (Pacific time)

See voices of safety onternational 9/11 POGO news for scientific evidence that 9/111 was "Made in the U.S.A." and Amerika's Chief Village Idiot, as Marvin's older brother, knew what his brother knew...Stratotec security would not be required one day after 9/10/01....Pogo....See Civilization Engineering 1 and 2 on how to overthrow this fascist military dictatorship

jory September 14, 2006 7:28 pm (Pacific time)

It has been long accepted by most of the 'conspiracy theorists', or truth seekers, that loose change is a poor production. Originally, it was created by a teenager as a fun project so bash it all you want. I admit there is a lot lacking in loose change but there are many, many other sources of information to be found.

Foamer September 14, 2006 3:56 pm (Pacific time)

Before believing any of this conspiracy theory stuff, please visit the "Screw Loose Change" blog at for the real truth. Loose Change can't stand up to the exposure of light.

eqriddler September 14, 2006 2:52 pm (Pacific time)

Tom, Just like the hybrid plants that threaten to upset biological balance that the farming industry did to us. It's too late to "find out" some of the key things that make it possible to unwind the evil. The term "industry" as it applies to this work of politics blesses any thing that furthers it's influence, just like any other "industry". (journalism) Too bad the blessing ends with the industry machine because we non machines become it's food.

Tom Noonan September 14, 2006 10:16 am (Pacific time)

It is easy to summarily accept or reject the contents of ‘Loose Change’ and likewise it is easy to summarily accept or reject the ‘9/11 Commission Report’. It is far more difficult to find facts, evidence, truth and logic to support any explanations of what really happened on 9/11 – but it is vitally important that we force ourselves to do it. The are obvious reasons why neither ‘Loose Change’ nor the ‘9/11 Commission Report’ should be accepted at face value. In the case of ‘Loose Change’, we have a documentary written and directed by people unknown to us. We have no idea as to what their skills are, motivations, affiliations, etc. and must therefore validate and verify information before it can be accepted. The 9/11 Commission was touted as being “…independent, impartial, thorough and nonpartisan.” Yet the chief architect of the final report and Executive Editor for the Commission is a member of the Bush Administration who played a key role in Bush’s transition team, is a long time friend of Condaleeza Rice with whom he co-authored a book and continues to work with the State Department. How independent, impartial, thorough and nonpartisan do you think he might be? Once again, the onus is on us to get the evidence to determine what is fact and what is fiction. The truth will set you free.

Albert Marnell September 13, 2006 10:17 pm (Pacific time)

"The Truth and Lies of 9/11" with Mike Ruppert, formerly of L.A.P.D. This documentary is totally nonspeculative. As a matter of fact Ruppert was pulled off of Nightline years ago when he was going to blow the cover off of the C.I.A. and others. Check it out!

Hank Ruark September 13, 2006 3:56 pm (Pacific time)

EQ: See ? Already you are doing better; you cite publicly well-known press deficiencies surely factually acceptable, and make good common-sense out of what they are doing to all of us. This one still worth another Op Ed or two, even though some already available.

eqriddler September 13, 2006 12:52 pm (Pacific time)

I also am interested in discovering the truth about the 911 attacks. But this event is only one of many I've observed over the last few years that have a growing sophistication of stagecraft to it. There are definitly competing forces, but another level of security has bypassed the known structure. The most difficult problem for them is what to do with us. People behave according to what they believe and the "belief influence" extends concentrically from each individual with the number of levels determined by the varying degree of awarness of each individual. Computer models are able to statistically discern our response to stimuli. (predict our response to events) The event being undeniable and presumably explainable becomes discovered to us as the layers of fact become known. The flow of information from that discovery is what creates us at a basic level. We are fed the information then develop our beliefs using the information. Our actions follow but they are based on flaws because the truth about the CAUSE of the event is unavailable. "What if" senerios abound which is one of the desired behaviors. The varietal emotional responses occur affecting awareness therefore are model inclusive. The question is "Who's doing what and why?" We DO need to be concerned and vigilant in some sense, but more importantly we also must solidify our personal foundational beliefs. Those belief awarenesses are the new gates of the city where once the whole town worked to protect, now through the (other-worldly creation of AI statistical modeling) the individual is being broken into and redefined without his consent.

Albert Marnell September 12, 2006 8:31 pm (Pacific time)

A documentary totally factual is "The Truth and Lies of 9/11." Mike Ruppert was pulled off of Nightline when Ted Koppel was doing the program. I was stunned and so was Koppel and millions of others. The powers in main stream media wanted to shut him up. Main stream media is beholden to political interests that give them privilege. Political interests are beholden to multinational and global bankers. Ruppert did not get a chance to speak one word. People have such short memories. He was going to blow the cover off of so much. See the documentary....only on the web.

Albert Marnell September 12, 2006 6:41 am (Pacific time)

Joel Walker, To your last comment, I say, "Good Work!"

Joel Walker September 11, 2006 8:51 pm (Pacific time)

I stand by my observations regarding peoples’ beliefs and how they choose and perceive their frames of reference. And, it doesn’t take all that much research. But cover-up? Of course there’s a cover-up. There’s always a cover-up. There are usually several cover-ups. Somebody’s always covering their own ass. Somebody’s always deciding what’s Really Important and should be included in The Report (there’s always a Report). Somebody’s always finding things that are Important Details that were Left Out of The Report, so there’s a New Comprehensive Report. Somebody’s always losing or misplacing evidence of one kind or another and the Official Story (my personal favorite) is “We Have No Record Of That.” It goes on and on. And on. Ever sat on a “grand” jury?

Jory September 11, 2006 7:53 pm (Pacific time)

Joel Walker obviously has not done much research if he can make a statement like "people will seek easier-to-believe answers if the available evidence is beyond their quick comprehension in either scope or depth." Most of us who challenge the Governments story have put in hours upon hours of research. Everyone believes something different and that is ok, the only part of this deal I cannot accept is the robots who automatically believe what they see on their TV screens and then use that little bit of politically tainted information to argue with others who have done hours of digging and researching on the subject. I'm am not saying Joel is wrong in his beliefs and/or statements but I can't help but see that there are holes in this story which a 747 could fly through. For anyone who is angry at us for not automatically believing what we are told, look into it a little deeper and you will be suprised at what you find. This is a good starting point.... I served in the military and I am a patriot, I love America and everything she has to offer and THAT is why I question these half truths and lies because, even with all the theories out there one this is definatly true beyond a doubt, there IS a cover up going on for some reason...we just don't know what that reason is....yet. Good work Tim but careful with Loose Change, it could use a lot of improvement but not bad for a movie that a kid created which began only as a fun project.

Joel Walker September 11, 2006 1:44 pm (Pacific time)

What I'm saying is: people will seek easier-to-believe answers if the available evidence is beyond their quick comprehension in either scope or depth. They will seek answers that more easily make world-affecting events comprehensible to them. They will more easily accept answers that are crafted in such a way as to support their own concept of their (or their identified group’s) importance in the greater scheme of things. And of course, some people would rather not examine facts at all; hence religion, astrology, and so on. I can’t find a conspiracy in all the 9/11 “stuff” just by virtue of the numbers of people who would have to keep the secret, and we are far beyond the administrative environment that permitted the secrecy of the Manhattan Project. Now that I’ve said it three times, with decreasing subtlety, I’d like to go back to giving the DEA a bad time for their “street value” valuation methods.

Tim King September 11, 2006 12:31 pm (Pacific time)

Maybe I did jump a bit with that, but Shermer seems to talk and write a lot without saying much. If I am getting this correctly, you are saying people would rather keep their heads buried rather than examine the facts.

Joel Walker September 11, 2006 11:13 am (Pacific time)

Sorry, Tim, you over-reach a bit with "Joel Walker also plainly states ..." What I'm "plainly stating" - evidently too plainly - is that these huge conspiracy theories are on the same level with alien abduction and creationism - and astrology, for that matter. This is not to trivialize you loss, or anyone else's. And it isn't meant to say there's no such thing as a conspiracy - just that maybe people seek comfort where they can find it when the explanations for what happens in the world we live in aren't readily comprehensible. That's why some people persist in ignoring evidence in favor of "common sense." Any moderately careful examination of potential targets will yield the conclusion that a couple of dozen people - maybe less - could bring this country to a complete standstill. Spreading an effectual conspiracy out over more than that would expose too many axes that want grinding and too many book deals that want to be made. Even then, somebody among the two dozen can be expected to shoot their mouth off within a few weeks at most.

Albert Marnell September 11, 2006 10:21 am (Pacific time)

Another good documentary that has no speculation is "The Truth and Lies of 9/11" "Loose Change" is slightly speculative but is a great documentary. The towers collapsed with pin point perfect demolition and again, were where the F-15s. Watch even a little of it. You will not be able to get enough. I was near Manhattan on 9/11. My friends were working their. People in the city of New York, Long Island and parts of New Jersey know what the deal was and are surprised that most of the rest of the country is still buying the old story and lies. Watch the doc. The people in New York mostly know what cooked. They do not understand why the rest of the nation has fallen for the Reichstag Fire.

Tim King September 11, 2006 10:20 am (Pacific time)

Michael Shermer and I have written back and forth a couple of times. He is a nice guy, but he has no solid way to explain the inconsistencies. All he can do is say "it isn't true" while never explaining a thing about what this article really gets at. Not exactly scientific. That sounds similar to other problems being played out time and time again under the Bush/Cheney team. Joel Walker also plainly states that creationism is what... a conspiracy theory? Michael Shermer compared the whole thing to the Holocaust "revisionist" thing and I told him at the time that he had no business comparing a suspicious attack on my country with the sick and crazy notion that the Holocaust didn't really happen. My dad's friends were there, they freed the Jews and buried others and were scarred for years over it.

Joel Walker September 11, 2006 10:05 am (Pacific time)

There's a study guide to go along with the "Loose Change" video. It's title is "Why People Believe Weird Things," by Michael Shermer. It also covers things like alien abduction and creationism.

Long Islander August 8, 2006 7:21 am (Pacific time)

A friend called me when the first drone went into the first Trade Tower. My first reaction was, "Where in the hell are all the fighter jets." I also recently spoke to someone that worked for Cantor Fitzgerald. He was in the London office on that morning. He told me that the first thing that came to his mind was that it was an inside job. When I was about 15 years old the Trade Towers were being built. As Long Islanders are very familiar with Manhattan, we hated the Towers and did no want them to show-up the Empire State Building which to us was always the symbol of Manhattan and ironically is again. Those towers were built to withstand multiple jet crashes. The media, the C.I.A., Tony Blair and M16, the list goes on have done a wonderful job in tricking the public with the magic show of 9/11. Thank God for Loose Change and even people like me that can tell you I kept looking into the sky waiting for some kind of Air Defense. This did not happen because most of NORAD fighters were on a bogus training mission in Canada and Alaska for a practice drill against a pretend Russian invasion. Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice, the oil companies, Larry Silverstein, the traitors in the C.I.A., the television media and worst of all the global bankers and others of the global elite that conspired for this to happen and blamed it on a bunch of no count Arab men, are all war criminals (not the Arabs) and should be tried just like the Nuremberg Trials. People also forget that billions in gold were being stored underground near the site from various countries. The figure in today's dollars is about 200 billion (verify the exact number.) Just a small fraction of the gold was resued, what happent to the largest portion of the gold stored there....It is all gone. 911 was an old game used as a pretext to go into the MIddle East to grab the last oil possible.

James May 19, 2006 7:59 am (Pacific time)

Here is one good link for pictures. Not to mention plenty of testimony from people who were at the pentagon. When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him. "It was the worst thing you can imagine," said Williams, whose squad from Fort Belvoir, Va., entered the building, less than four hours after the terrorist attack. "I wanted to cry from the minute I walked in. But I have soldiers under me and I had to put my feelings aside." And the hundreds of people who saw the airplane hit.

Tim King May 19, 2006 2:19 am (Pacific time)

James, that is the kind of evidence that would quiet people. There is one shot of wreckage that the AP was brought up to photograph. It has no burn marks, and it is the only wreckage photo that I know if to be released. There are all kinds of photos that show no wreckage. Can you give us details on where the pics you refer to are located?

James May 18, 2006 11:06 pm (Pacific time)

Well you should try google again, because your source isn't correct. He ended his term on the board of directors (hardly a controlling position BTW) in June 2000. I can send you the SEC filings if you wish. What disappearing jetliner are you referring to? The pentagon? It didn't disappear, they found the engines, parts of the fuselage, the black boxes, even bodies of the passengers still strapped to their seats. The movie left out that part.

Tim King May 18, 2006 9:30 am (Pacific time)

Pat, I checked out Marvin Bush through other sources, and he was supposed to have held that position until the day before the attacks.. The cell phone calls are very suspicious, but there are more problems with Loose Change on that subject. I just see these things as small parts though; it is the disappearing jetliner that I can't accept. The only conspiracy theory I see it, is the one launched by the government that led us to war with a country that had 100% nothing to do with the attacks. It is the evolution of the administration that draws the strongest suspicions.

Pat Curley May 18, 2006 8:55 am (Pacific time)

Tim, use a little critical thinking and check things out just a little harder. The movie notes that Marvin Bush was on the Board of Directors of the security company from 1993 to fiscal 2000. What does that mean? That he was not with the company in 2001. They slipped one past you. And the claim about the contract expiring coincidentally on September 10th is false. Check the citations on that. Barbara Bush's Reflections does not confirm that; you can do a search of the book on Amazon, and pretty quickly see that story does not appear in it. I notice that you don't discuss the tinfoil hat stuff about the cellphone calls being faked, or that Flight 93 was secretly offloaded in Cleveland with the passengers on all four flights hustled into a NASA building. Once you realize these guys are lying to you about Marvin Bush, you should begin to have doubts about the rest of the film. It misleads you about a lot of things. Google April Gallop and Wally Miller and you'll quickly find plenty of quotes that put the lie to the claim that they believe in the conspiracy presented in Loose Change.

Tom Noonan May 15, 2006 4:57 am (Pacific time)

Excellent article Tim. I encourage every American to do his/her own research and to focus on verifiable facts and common sense. The laws of nature and science can't be broken. Go back and watch/listen to what the media told us as they witnessed the events on 9/11. Learn what our laws dictate in times of plane crashes, national emergencies, hijackings, and crime scenes and compare that to what happened on and after 9/11. Read the gripping testimonies of 503 firefighters/EMT's which were released by court order in August 2005 and find out why Mayor Bloomberg had withheld them. Read the `9/11 Commission Report` and decide if they proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. On September 11, the world changed forever. Our nation joined hands as Americans united in the goal to see that justice is served and willing to make sacrifices as required. We are asking our sons, daughters and loved ones to risk their lives in this cause, now we must DEMAND that our leaders give us the TRUTH. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.� – Thomas Jefferson Regards, Tom Noonan

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