Obama vs Clintons - The Battle for Oregon Voters

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Noleen May 19, 2008 2:11 am (Pacific time)

Hillary needs to stop, because she is going to cause problems for Obama in November. If she is so concerned about the democratic party then she would of stop.

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Henry Ruark May 17, 2008 1:40 pm (Pacific time)

TimL. et al: Your keyphrase is: "You know I find it funny that so many of the average americans have absolutely no clue at how corrupt the politicians who openly accept bribes from lobbiests are. They had no clue that lobbiests just bankroll our gov into getting what they want." Thank you for working words showing truth of "abject apathy" --that's fatal symptom in any democracy, and this may be our last-shot to remedy its damaging impacts.

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Henry Ruark May 16, 2008 12:56 pm (Pacific time)

Fisher et al: Re "lobbyists running campaign", here's record on McCain, right up to date: McCain's Lobbyists Continue to Cause Him Headaches By Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report Posted on May 14, 2008, http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com//85324/ "Following up on an earlier item, John McCain had to accept the resignation of Doug Goodyear, the man he tapped to manage the Republican National Convention, after reports surfaced that Goodyear’s lobbying firm represented Burma’s brutal military junta. "But Goodyear simply ran the firm. What about the specific lobbyist who actually worked on the junta’s behalf? As it turns out, that would be Doug Davenport who, you guessed it, also works for John McCain’s campaign. (Davenport is a regional campaign manager for McCain, overseeing the operation in mid-Atlantic states.)" Should count-for-more when top persons-in-charge turn out to be same ilk as others, only more so...right ?? (And that's no pun, either !..)

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Henry Ruark May 16, 2008 9:16 am (Pacific time)

TimL et al: Yours shows reality that many now moving away from "abject apathy" and considering carefully every aspect of complex process on which democracy depends: the voter's choice. Thank you both for mirror reflection of real issues. As John Dewey stated conversation (read "dialog"!) is the very heart of democracy.

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Henry Ruark May 16, 2008 9:10 am (Pacific time)

To all: "Heavy"-part of continuing documentation for this OP Ed is collection of columns written locally, around some parts of nation. Here's quote from one today, in R-G/Eugene: "We all need to let our news media sources know they will be held to the highest standards if they are given the opportunity to carry on meaningful commentary for such important functions as presidential elections." That's ending-kicker; you should see preceding sharp, accurate assessments, made by Willow Hill, Eugene landscape designer --and Hillary worker.

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TimL May 16, 2008 9:03 am (Pacific time)

Yeah Fisher, It is also a very "Sorry" day when people spread lies and grasp at straws over ridiculous things such as the word "Sweetie". And use misleading information or blatant lies in attempts to swing votes. Clinton has been caught in several "BIG" lies. Obama has not. McCain can only gain the support he needs if he goes against his own ideals. It is sad because he is a good man and as worthy of being president as that of Obama. But the Bush Regime has the republican party by the nuggets and this will not change. No candidate is ever perfect but some of the key issues that really impact peoples lives Obama wants to address in the correct way. Such as removing tax breaks from companies that claim to be american but ship all the jobs overseas. You know I find it funny that so many of the average americans have absolutely no clue at how corrupt the politicians who openly accept bribes from lobbiests are. They had no clue that lobbiests just bankroll our gov into getting what they want. And from the message you posted it appears you support that ideal. Obama will be the next president. He is qualified by ability and deed. He has the fewest skeletons and ties to other corrupt individuals. This fact alone makes him the best choice

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Henry Ruark May 16, 2008 8:23 am (Pacific time)

Fisher et al: Your plaint rings true in part, but fails in totality. Fact is all three candidates fail your standard; whether or not Americans generally support your view is an entirely different question. For realities, see Op Ed.

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Fisher May 16, 2008 8:07 am (Pacific time)

It is a sorrt day when individuals in this country are no longer looking at the MORAL character of the candidates. Obama does take money from lobbyists and he has several lobbyists running his campaign. He has and continues to get up in front of Americans and preach that he is different and that he does and will not take money from lobbyists. I do not understand how anyone with any moral fiber in their bones today would support him. I am digraced by lies to the american people and I am also disgraced by all who support him knowing that his whole platform that he is running is a lie to the american people. I do not know what has happen to the MORAL FIBER of this country. The youth of this country are going to distroy this country. Apparently a large majority of they were brought up lacking morals.

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