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May-01-2007 15:25TweetFollow @OregonNews Pelosi and Reid Respond to Bush VetoTim King Salem-News.comPresident Bush vetoed the Democratic War Funding Bill.
(WASHINGTON, D.C.) - Democrats responded to the presidential veto of a war spending bill submitted for approval. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says that in the coming days, they will continue to reach out to the president. "And we hope Congressional Republicans who have remained silent through this debate will work with us as well." "The President may be content with keeping our troops mired in the middle of an open-ended civil war, but we are not; and neither are most Americans. A bipartisan majority of Congress sent the President a bill to fully fund our troops and change the mission in Iraq. The president refused to sign it. That is his right, but now he has an obligation to explain his plan to responsibly end this war." But if the President thinks that by vetoing this bill, he will stop us from working to change the direction of this war, he is mistaken." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi joined Reid in her comments that reflect a determination to make the President come to terms. "We made a strong commitment to support our men and women in uniform." She says the bill was a reflection of the will of the people. "It was a bill that honored and represented the wishes of the American people." In Pelosi's eyes, Bush was not moved by the fact that poeple from all political corners are joining the effort to bring the war in Iraq to a close. "We had hoped that the President would have teated it with the respect of the bi-partisan support of the American people." "This bill supports the troops, and in fact it gave the President more than he asked for the troops." She closed with this remark, "The president wants a blank check, the congress is not going to give it to him." Pelosi says that what Bush refuses to give, he demanded from President Clinton June 5th, 1999, when he said it is important that President Clinton lay out a timetable. "The president refuses to apply the same standards to his own activity." "If the President thinks what is going on no in Iraq is progress, it is easy to see why we have a disagreement with his policy." Even impeachment is a consideration say dome Democrats, who include Jack Murtha, the Democrat military veteran who has raised his voice repeatedly against the policies of the administration. Articles for April 30, 2007 | Articles for May 1, 2007 | Articles for May 2, 2007 | googlec507860f6901db00.html | |
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Albert Marnell May 7, 2007 10:54 pm (Pacific time)
Rottenburger, I am sure Mickey Mouse is always in your head for the last 60 years. You have brought out the best in me.
Rosenberg May 7, 2007 9:57 pm (Pacific time)
Thanks Marnell, and may karma provide you with similar actions as you desire for me. Marnell, I've noticed practically everytime you get rude with me that 1950's song starts humming in my head when I glance at your "verbiage": M--I--C... ...K--E--Y... ...M-O-U-S-E...MICKEY MOUSE!
Albert Marnell May 7, 2007 6:29 pm (Pacific time)
Rosenberg, If you only knew how many people can't stand you, the only people left to protect would be within a 15 ft radius of you.
Rosenberg May 5, 2007 8:55 am (Pacific time)
Marnell I actually do carry a lot of metal fragments that I wish I didn't, but sideline observer's like you will never grasp what I'm talking about, and that's okay Marnell, keeping everyone safe is the only way it works for people like me. Though sometimes I wish the process could be more selective, e.g. , just helping and protecting those who deserve our protection...
Albert Marnell May 3, 2007 9:45 pm (Pacific time)
Rosenberg, You are full of shot.
Rosenberg May 3, 2007 4:49 pm (Pacific time)
Now the below is really going to break the hearts of all us older people who keep involved with sports. My father, soon to turn 100, still has considerable athletic "prowess". Weird! To all: Some never learn, even in "adult"hood, still obsessed with athletic et al "prowess", even when taught otherwise by their elders...and that's a fact !
Hank Ruark May 3, 2007 10:52 am (Pacific time)
Rosy et al: Yrs re Jackie: Did you ever meet him ? Did, once, Chicago, shook hand, had coffee... Did you ever meet R ? Did more than once, press room, also Senate Chamber; heard "The Speech", too, in person,totally UNimpressed... Face/face contact beats read-about, every time. Once you "been there" you trust internal feelings much more...yrs ovrseas should have taught you that. What's missing with you is probably now irreplaceable, sad to say...happens to many of your generation, due to impossible-to-change experiences. My blessing, Rosy, for what it may still be worth...
Hank Ruark May 3, 2007 10:20 am (Pacific time)
To all: Re Jackie, great man, great player...but Reagan/Rosy both die by own hand before seeing him in White House ! Point of book-cited is solid documentation of dollars-paid for conversion, per sharp writer on scene at time...see with own eyes ! Then count yr dollars-now and seek full testimony re why at level-experienced. Fact is that inequality, attack on all but elite, underway ever since R's first days at GE...
Rosenberg May 3, 2007 8:38 am (Pacific time)
Blah blah...assaulting me with a baseball bat! No you wouldn't have, but you would have been carrying my water, and happy as punch for me letting you.
Rosenberg May 3, 2007 7:47 am (Pacific time)
Hank would you apply that analysis to Jackie Robinson also? LOL So predictable!
Anonymous May 3, 2007 5:52 am (Pacific time)
For any seeking further fact on degeneration of Reagan from early-life Democrat via 8 well-paid PR-years for GE, here's source: "Education of Ronald Reagan" by Thomas W. Evans,subtitled "The Untold Story of His Conversion to Conservatism". ISBN 0-231-13860-1. Evans is former Reagan close political associate. "A major contribution to Reagan scholarship and presidency analysis" - James McGregor Burns, author of "Roosevelt: Soldier of Freedom. Fact is fact, even in roiled field of U.S. history; it was heavy-dollar work for GE that "converted" Ronnie...
Hank Ruark May 3, 2007 5:34 am (Pacific time)
To all: Some never learn, even in "adult"hood, stil obsessed with athletic et al "prowess", even when taught otherwise by their elders...and that's a fact !
Blah, Blah, Blah May 2, 2007 3:24 pm (Pacific time)
Ross, If we were young again and back in high school, I am sure that my favorite sport would have been smacking you with a baseball bat on your head.
Rosenberg May 2, 2007 10:49 am (Pacific time)
Alan budgeting for a war is a pretty fluid process, highly dynamic. Joe Smoe, had you taken the opposite tack you would have received praise from some of those who posted after you...that should be a big hint! Forgive them, for they do not understand grown-ups and the problems they must provide "solutions" for. All they know how to do is complain, probably goes back to their grammar school days when life first started to go bad for them, e.g., first out in dodgeball and getting picked last for team sports. Went downhill for them ever since...
Hank Ruark May 2, 2007 8:26 am (Pacific time)
JoeS: Yrs weak parody, which fits rest of yr mental-fix, too. IF you can still read, check out past history for reality since Reagan's installation of corporate power for citizen rule. Then update to more-Norquist plus Abramson-impacts for the current picture. Don't forget Enron et al, including PGE-home while power perversion carried California and rest-of-West. Hey, man, truth better than yr fiction, makes for less friction, too.
Who Cares May 2, 2007 8:26 am (Pacific time)
Joe Smoe, You were raised on television and must watch it often. Your skit is stupid and tells me you know nothing about how things really work. Your the one who is bitter and lamenting.
Hambone May 2, 2007 7:52 am (Pacific time)
I used to be for impeachment..now I am for arrest and indictment.
Joe Smoe May 1, 2007 10:31 pm (Pacific time)
Yeah Dude, Like Man, it's a conspiracy, man, like those darn republicans man are like out to ruin the world man. Like all they do man is try to stimulate the economy man, try to reduce the size of the government man, and like try to reduce taxes man. I mean they keep trying to make everything better man, and like that sucks man because then I can't wallow in misery like I always do. Then I can't complain about anything man. There won't be anymore free handouts man, or any income redistribution man. That sucks I won't be able to take money from someone who actually earned it man, and give it to people like me who can't afford anything because I don't work. That sucks. By the way man, I don't care if we want to fight wars overseas man, I don't care if other countries want to steal the rights and liberties of our people. I just want to open up all of out borders and have free work programs for everyone so I can go into wal mart and practice my Spanish. I'm so glad that mexicans are so lazy that they don't want to learn English, now all the walmarts and advance auto parts write everything in Spanglish so I'm all confused. I'm so glad I get to learn another language by reading labels on boxes. It sucks that when I go to mexico that nothing is written in English. Man they aren't as such gracious host as we are, that sucks. I figured they'd return the favor. What happened to "when in Rome do as the Romans do".
IceMan May 1, 2007 9:35 pm (Pacific time)
IMPEACHMENT IS THE ONLY CONSIDERATION
Learn It May 1, 2007 8:40 pm (Pacific time)
Civil disobedience is the only real answer, whatever that means to you. Bang on the door of your Congress person in the middle of the night if you have to. I will repeat this often. People must study the global bank that controls the country and even the world. Go to F.R.E.E. or see any number of documentaries on the internet about the Federal Reserve. It is not federal and there is no reserve. It is a consortium of private banks that own the country. Start learning about that and you will want a revolution. All of our Congress people are full of it. Dem or Rep that have to encourage people to revolt. Even if this results in major civil unrest, riots and bloodshed. You do not get what you want by being nice. It does not work and never will.
Restore America PLEASE! May 1, 2007 4:56 pm (Pacific time)
I don't enjoy a bunch of parinoid, "dry-drunk oil executives" running the affairs of our great country that his been spiritually destroyed by "daily terror stories" on national news for the past 4 years. It's time to impeach Bush and Cheney, and bring up Pelosi and Reid to restore the sanity, restore the peace and restore America. All is needed is a 2/3rds majority vote in congress! Thats it! Send Bush and Cheney home with impeachment certificates! In 2-WEEKS! Done Deal! Peace, liberty and justice for all!
RICK May 1, 2007 4:24 pm (Pacific time)
IMPEACHMENT IS A WORTHWHILE CONSIDERATION
Alan DeWitt May 1, 2007 4:20 pm (Pacific time)
There's a funding crisis now not because the Democrats are recalcitrant, but because the President chose to finance the war using off-budget supplemental spending requests. If we were talking about a supplemental just for the surge, that'd be one thing - the surge was not really expected. But he's been financing the whole darn war this way, and in the main the costs for this war have been reasonably predictable. He's the one who has made the funding for this war into a political football. If the President had budgeted for this war properly and honestly, there would be money to pay through October already... and he could have got it from a Congress controlled by his own party. You screwed up, Mr. President, and now your screwup has placed your ability to run the war as you please at the mercy of an unfriendly Congress. It's your own darn fault.
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