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Memories of the El Toro Marine Air Base: a Modern Day Ghost TownTim King Salem-News.comThis feature is part of a series report on contamination at the El Toro Marine base; it includes a special slideshow presentation.
(IRVINE, Calif.) - The sound of afterburners from fighter and attack jets soaring into the California sky over the El Toro Marine Corps Air Station have been silent for almost a decade. They have been replaced by an eerie silence that envelopes the looming buildings and hangars. Shutters crackle in the wind, doors blow open and closed, and the hangars sound like they are still populated with people, when they are completely empty. The feeling the old base puts off underscores the ghost town idea without even trying.
People to this day, question whether closing this flagship Marine air base was a good idea. It seems an odd contradiction in an age of increasing national security, but the health hazards that continue to emerge from TCE and other chemicals seeping under the base like Perchlorate, likely mean that the closure had to happen anyway, at least until a sincere cleanup effort was completed. Most who have studied the situation say the TCE here can not be completely removed from the earth and it will stick around for the next thousand years or so. Many Marines and their family members who lived and served at El Toro have experienced serious health issues including cancer, mutations and intestinal disorders. These are all symptoms of TCE contamination. In some cases, likely including my own immediate family, the contamination can be passed down to the next generation. This also happened with Agent Orange contamination during the Vietnam War. My first born son suffered a collapsed bowel at the age of four months. My wife's first born son was born with an epiglottis the size of a 40-year old man's. Both children were in ICU wards for these problems by the age of four months. I will likely never know if TCE contamination caused these problems, but it seems very possible. I know that plenty of showers were taken during each pregnancy at El Toro base housing, and vapors in a shower are one way TCE can harm people, experts say, after it permeates a home's foundation. The shower releases the TCE through the steam. As a Marine at El Toro, I also suffered frequent lower stomach aches. These were never resolved and flared up periodically. After I was discharged from the Marines, the stomach aches resided noticeably. In my personal experience here, there are two stories in my mind that stand out very clearly about El Toro. One happened on my very first day there, and one toward the end of my time at El Toro. Each was bizarre and unpredictable. I offer them as a perspective and in an effort to describe the fast paced lifestyle of this huge Marine Corps facility. A New Marine's First Day at El Toro After making it through 13 weeks of basic training, "boot camp" at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, I was given orders to report to El Toro where I would become a tactical aircraft refueler. This role involved using portable jet refueling systems with above ground pumps that can be set up quickly in a combat zone to keep jets fueled and flying.
The plane, a 2-seat Marine jet fighter, flew off for a few minutes so the Marine pilots could jettison (get rid of) their "drop tanks" which carry extra fuel. Then they returned and were circling above the base. No other aircraft were active at this point at El Toro. Marine Crash Crew vehicles all came out moving fast and they sprayed the runway down with foam. We were not sure what was going to happen next, or if they were actually going to try to land the plane this way. When the Marine aviators brought the Phantom back they were in a tough situation to say the least. The choice had obviously been made that they were going to attempt to land the aircraft as they stayed in the immediate area for several minutes, then began an approach. On one landing gear wheel and one strut, they landed the F-4 and used what appeared to be a great deal of finesse in keeping it straight. When it touched down the plane made sparks so huge that it looked like a 4th of July celebration. That lasted for several seconds and then the plane left the paved runway and went into the dirt. It was a calm day in Orange County and it took what seemed like ten minutes for the dust to clear. The plane was damaged, but those guys brought it down and walked away from it. That was within the first two hours of my first day in the Fleet Marine Service. (post basic training) A Marine's Last Days at El Toro My last weeks of duty at El Toro were spent as a "Duty NCO" which means I was the Marine on guard duty for a lack of better terms, at the 'H'-shaped apartment style barracks where the guys from my squadron and I lived. They came back a short time later and I checked for the Marine again, to no avail. An hour or two passed and one of the girls came into the duty hut again and she was very upset. She explained that they had walked over the the enlisted club and were having a good time, and they thought they would walk back over the the barracks I was in charge of and see if the Marine they were looking for had returned. But then along the way, a white Toyota pulled up driven by an off-duty Marine, who offered the two girls a ride. The girl talking to me said she declined, but to her surprise, her friend got in the car and it drove off. When she found the girl a short time later, she said she had been sexually assaulted. The girl talking to me said her friend, the victim, was sitting in their car. I went out and talked to her and she came back to the barracks area so I could find out what happened. It seemed like it took no time at all; suddenly the girl who said she had been assaulted, pointed out the window and said "there he is" as a white Toyota drove near the barracks very slowly. I ran out of the barracks and used a parked military truck to keep the driver of the Toyota from seeing me. As he passed the front of the Marine Corps 2 1/2 ton truck, I leaned into his car and shut the motor off and removed the key. It happened fast and the slightly drunk Marine didn't have time to react. I pulled him out of his car and pinned his arm behind his back and walked him up to my barracks; 661. I put the guy in a phone booth and had the girl come out and confirm that it was the man who assaulted her, and she said he was the same man. That is when I took out his ID and realized he was a Staff Sergeant. The highest rank I reached in the Marines was Lance Corporal and most of my time was as a private and Pfc. A Staff Sergeant is an advanced rank that takes several years to achieve. It made his alleged actions seem all the worse as he was a figure of authority. I called the MP's and they came out and took it from there. I think in truth that they just let the guy go, and that charges were never pressed, but that was the way it went down one Saturday night in December 1983 at El Toro MCAS. The El Toro Marine Corps Air Station was the scene of many near misses and it was also the scene of tragedies. But all the while it was home and good duty for thousands upon thousands of Marines over the years and they served here with a high degree of excellence. To see this proud place as a ghost town today is sad, and knowing that the ground beneath your feet is seething with toxic chemicals that many local government officials dismiss or claim to know very little about, as million dollar homes are built on top of it, makes the saga downright tragic. ------------------------------------------------------ This article is part of a continuing series on Trichloroethylene contamination at the El Toro Marine Corps Air Station in Southern California. Here is the slideshow of some of Tim's images of the El Toro Marine Corps Air Station (July 2: Here are the other installments in this series on El Toro: Deadly Toxic Chemicals From Marine Base Threaten Irvine Neighborhoods (VIDEO REPORT) Irvine, California Threatened by Contaminated Water From El Toro Marine Base (VIDEO REPORT) El Toro Water Contamination Reports Will Continue Sick Marines and Contaminated Water: Questions Surround El Toro Marine Air Base (VIDEO REPORT) These are all related Salem-News.com reports on TCE:
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frazier strutzel February 11, 2013 8:27 pm (Pacific time)
I WAS CHECKING IN AT THE MAIN GATE OCT, 1963. ONE OF THE NEW F=4 PHANTOMS (ONLY 4 HAD BEEN DELIVERED.)WAS TAKING OFF AND TURNED VERTICAL. IT BROKE THE SOUND BARRIER AFTER SECONDS AND ALMOST BROKE THE WINDOWS IN THE GUARD SHACK. I WORKED IN THE CONTROL TOWER OCT. 62 TO APR 63 THEN TO ATSUGI NAS.SAW TO MANY INCIDENTS TO TELL ABOUT BUT WAS VERY IMPRESSED WHEN THE USAF HAD ENOUGH TRANSPORTS TO LOAD AND DELIVER THE ENTIRE 1ST DIVISION FROM EL TORO TO GITMO BAY DURING "MISSILES OF OCTOBER. LOVED THE JOB. LOVED THE TOWER. TOO DUMB TO TAKE PICTURES. THE RUNWAY AND AIRPORT LIGHTS @ NIGHT WERE A SIGHT TO BEHOLD. WOULD LOVE ANY PICTURES OF THE TOWER AND NIGHT TIME PICTURES. frazierstrutzel@yahoo.com
We love reading this, I have my F-4 memories of El Toro also!
J Horner January 29, 2013 5:42 pm (Pacific time)
I was stationed there in 1976-1977 with VMA-311 as an analyst. Just read about this in a DAV magazine last week. Had not heard about it until then. Sad to see those pictures.
Tim King: Thanks for dropping by, I refueled your 311 jets every day, can you tell me a date or any other info on the DAV magazine? Glad to know about this. SF
D Goyette November 23, 2012 1:08 am (Pacific time)
I arrived at the Air Station in May 1960 after reenlisting from 5th Marines at Camp Pendleton. I was assigned to aviation operations in VMF 451 (F8-U Crusaders) in Barracks 450. Having been used to the basic accommodations of infantry life, when I looked through the windows of my assuaged barracks, I thought it was officer's quarters. There were 4 man cubicles instead of the platoon sized squad bays. I remember El Toro and Santa Ana as one of the most enjoyable duty stations a Marine could hope for. I left in 1962 for a tour on the drill field and returned to El Toro in 1965 after a tour in Vietnam. One of the most vivid memories I have of Orange County during the early 60s was the fragrance of orange blossoms. With the windows open, you could drive for miles along county roads and smell the blossoms.
Tim King: Thanks a lot for dropping by, my email is tim@salem-news.com, yours is the second great former MCASET Marine contact in as many days, I too remember thinking of it as you did and I was also in barracks 449, 440 and 441, and the h barracks toward the end. Ooh rah and Semper fi!
natasha August 22, 2012 9:59 am (Pacific time)
Is there any talk about salvaging some of the grounds and converting them into a museum or memorial of sorts?
Phil Townsend August 16, 2012 11:52 am (Pacific time)
Operations VMFAW 314-513. 1962-65 No health issues. But I lived off Base
Jacqulyn June 29, 2012 1:22 pm (Pacific time)
I also am sad to see El Toro in the sad shape it is in at present.Many fond memories my father was an air traffic controller at El Toro I REMEMBER THE TRIPS UP TO THE TOP OF THE CONTROL TOWER.
Tim King: Jacqulyn, nobody can ever take those good memories from you, I have many also, it is sad!
Ken Sokol December 21, 2011 2:42 pm (Pacific time)
I have two memories of EL Toro. 1st. In 1951-52 my dad was stationed at El Toro. One day he took me onto the tarmack and put me on the end of a rope that we used to walk a blimp into the hanger. The second was in 1970 when I was on maneuvers on El Toro and I was in that same hanger listening to the Commandant. Anyone have relevant photos I'd be interested. dksokol@hotmail.com
Tim King: Ken be sure to check the several dozen articles under this subject by following the El Toro link.
MDoering August 23, 2011 4:33 pm (Pacific time)
I noticed that Sam Houston stated that his uncle was Col John H Doering Jr. Looking for relatives!
mike patton June 3, 2011 6:38 pm (Pacific time)
I grew up there as a kid there back 1969 to 72 when my dad was there with vmf 232 it suck to see it all gone
Sam Houston August 17, 2010 10:54 am (Pacific time)
I was stationed at Travis AFB as Flight Engineer on C-141 and was on a mission to El Toro Marine Base to pick up Predident Nixon's helicopter and a pallet of Artichocks (President's favorite) and delivered all to Andrews AFB, Maryland. At that time the Marine Air Bsse was first class. My uncle Col. John H. Doering was stationed at the base as MAW Commander.
Sam Houston August 17, 2010 10:50 am (Pacific time)
I was stationed at Travis AFB as Flight Engineer on C-141 and was on a mission to El Toro Marine Base to pick up Predident Nixon's helicopter and a pallet of Artichocks (President's favorite) and delivered all to Andrews AFB, Maryland. At that time the Marine Air Bsse was first class. My uncle Col. John H. Doering was stationed at the base as MAW Commander.
Peter G. February 1, 2010 4:32 pm (Pacific time)
Reported to MCAS El Toro 4/81. EAS-4/85. Was a plane captain with VMA-311.
Age: 49 as of 3/2010. No major health issues!
RIP E T!
Tim King: Peter, you were a 311 Plane Captain and that means we probably saw each other every other day. Glad to know your health is good, me too, I'm 46. If you want to be in our loop so to speak, feel free to drop me an email, tim@salem-news.com, Semper Fi Brother!
Patrick November 27, 2009 11:46 am (Pacific time)
Mag-11 MandMS-11 L/Cpl 1980 -1984 My child has been born with birth defects patrolman1@hotmail.com
Richard Field September 22, 2009 7:33 am (Pacific time)
I was stationed at El Toro for three years 1968 through 1971. I was with HMS 33 for a kid from the midwest this was a dream come true, living is So. Calif. and seeing all the beaches that the Beach Boys sang about. I married and local girl and stayed in the area. I went into commercial real estate and after they closed lthe base I always wanted to develop the land but was very aware of the contamination. It is really sad. I was lucky and didn't have to put up with a lot of the Marine BS because I worked in a very high security area, Top secret electronic equipment. I am now back in the Midwest but have many fond memories of friends and the base.
Michael E Thompson May 22, 2009 10:56 pm (Pacific time)
Hey served on El Toro 79-83 on and off. I was a Plane Captain with VMA AW 121 Green Knights we rotated every six months. my email is bearsden@gvtel.com I just joined Facebook to access more info and those who were there with me. MET
Bert May 19, 2009 11:48 am (Pacific time)
For any of you who spent time at El Toro (as I did from 1976-1980 - before moving on to MCAGCC 29 Palms) - there is an attorney who needs to be contacted IF you or a family member have health problems that may be from this contamination... VERY IMPORTANT - please contact him or contact Tim King @ Salem News or Bob O'DOWD @ email address: consults03@comcast.net for details.. Attorney name is Michael Gates @ email address: megates@cktfmlaw.com ASAP - PLEASE, for all of our sakes... contact them.
Troy February 25, 2009 6:30 pm (Pacific time)
Tim, I was just trying to find some old pics of MCAS El Toro, where I was stationed from 87-91. I read your article and was completely floored. I know for a fact that things were not done "by the book". Hell, we never even saw the book. Now here I am with unexplainable health problems at the age of 40 due to situations out of my control as a young marine. Do you have any additional info on health related problems due to haz waste that people are suffering from that were stationed there? I will speak to my family doc soon and see if any testing can be done to determine if any chemicals I was exposed to could be the cause of my ailments. Thanks for the work you're doing, the jaw dropping pictures of my beloved duty station and Semper Fi.
donand conkel January 25, 2009 11:48 am (Pacific time)
i was stationed at eltoro in 1951 /53 iam sorry to see the base in this shape my rank was sgt.donald conkel of odessa fl. email dconkel@tampabay.rr.com
Kat August 17, 2008 9:34 pm (Pacific time)
I lived on the base until I was 13 when my stepfather whom was working in the tower was one of the "Cuts". Whatever that means....Anyhow, we moved And I haven't seen the Base since. In 99 my daughter was born and I heard of the base closing,When my little girl was 6 months old my mother died of cancer. I am JUST NOW hearing of the contamination on the base. I drank that water as well as my mother and little sister . I feel Betrayed and confused, How does one know if they have been contaminated?? How do you get tested ?? How do you know ....I have had BAD HEADACHES and don't know why for years....Can you please contact me and hopefully answer some questions....AND THANK YOU SO MUCH TIM....Brightest of Blessings
Bob O'Dowd July 30, 2008 1:45 pm (Pacific time)
Tim, your slide show brings back memories of the '37 hangar (Bldg. 296). Haven't seen this building up close since December 1965, returning from overseas, I stopped in to say "hello" to some old buddies. Thought I'd be getting out after my four year enlistment, but the Corps had other ideas. All Marines were involuntarily (sound familiar) extended 120 days. The Corps was ramping up for Vietnam. With immediate plans to invade North Vietnam and no place to go, many of us were assigned to Marine Corps Reserve stations until the clock ran out. I did my extra four months at NAS Glenview. Never got back to El Toro. I’m now wondering what happened to '37 Marines who worked in Bldg. 296 and the nearby warehouses. For myself, I became seriously ill at age 43 with prostate tumors—all benign. In ’05, I had surgery for stage 2/3 bladder cancer, followed by a round of chemotherapy. I didn’t “connect the dots” until learning that El Toro had been a Superfund site and the ’37 hangar was ground zero
Sally July 29, 2008 9:40 pm (Pacific time)
Yea, probably a peeved homeowner in irvine that can't sell their house because of the plume. It's too bad the city of Irvine has done nothing to help matters even to this day.
T.F. ROWE July 29, 2008 8:32 pm (Pacific time)
Great article Tim. And no , the information is not well known. It most certainly is news.
Dan July 29, 2008 5:23 pm (Pacific time)
I have lived in Irvine since 1974 and find this article somewhat alarmist. This information has been known well before that base was closed. It is not NEWS.
CANDY July 29, 2008 7:52 am (Pacific time)
TIM, GREAT JOB AS USUAL. I'M SURE THESE PICTURES BRING UP MEMORIES, GOOD AND BAD, FOR THE EL TORO MARINES. THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF THE WORD OF THIS CONTAMINATION IS FINALLY GETTING OUT. CAMP LEJEUNE'S CONTAMINATION HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR AWHILE, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO GET THE WORD OUT TO EVERYONE. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION TO THIS TRADEGIC ISSUE. CANDY
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