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Jul-27-2012 14:37printcomments

Who is Photoshopping Colorado's Crime Scene?

A knife in plain sight disappeared.

Photos from crime scene in Colorado
Photos by Karl Gehring, Denver Post AP

(AURORA, CO) - Americans are still reeling from the recent mass murder in a Colorado movie theatre.


The crime left local reidents speechless and there are growing questions over imagery from the scene that isn't adding up.

What appears to have been a large knife recovered from the shooting scene down on the back right corner of the theater, has been removed either from the Denver Post pictures, or it has been physically removed.

This is important because James Holmes was found sitting in his car with a gas mask and knife on him.

This gas mask and knife was found over 100 feet from the white Hyundai.

Since the shooter was wearing gloves, it would be impossible to say at the time that this knife did or didn't belong to James Holmes.

This is the evidence of a second shooter the Chief Oates is claiming that they do not have.

The gas mask they can explain away by saying it was dropped by a first responder, but the knife, they cannot explain why it is there, and they have not mentioned it.



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Brad December 2, 2012 8:42 am (Pacific time)

support, good spot the lens frame appears non existant on one and the clips look different. Thanks for putting htis up Chris P.


remy zero September 7, 2012 8:55 am (Pacific time)

also a big thanxxx to the Salem-News for standing independently....much respect!
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Editor: Thanks a lot Remy


chris p August 3, 2012 1:56 pm (Pacific time)

@ Kim...Ummm no. Check the metadata. The date stamp on the picture without the knife is 10:20am http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=1bcd5ee80fb7762dd07d8228f77d12e90f25ef6d.81064 The date stamp of the one with the guy looking at the knife is taken after, at 10:27am. http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=9d469a3f9d9a839948c8869ca0d7d69ee5fc2284.78676 The best quality versions of these phots I've found are on the Denver Post Photo Blog, and the AP Images site.


chris p August 3, 2012 1:01 pm (Pacific time)

That gas mask or knife shouldn't even be down there. The cops had the back surrounded by 12:43, 1 minute after the last reports of shooting still going on. The cops would have seen the suspect down there if he was wandering around on the end of the theater. They say the found him near his car, but it's more likely that he was in his car, that explains why it took em 3 full minutes to find a guy in a gas mask with a gun out back. He could have been hiding back behind the dumpster area there by the stairs, but he wouldn't have been on the end there where the mask is. The most likely explanation for why the mask and knife are down there is that the real shooter ran off towards the corner, dropping the mask and knife on his way. The police audio of one of the officers out back of theater 9 on there saying it smells like someone sprayed gas out here. Notice the gas can in the crime scene photos. The shooter was probably going to burn evidence, but the cops were already there so fast, he had to give up on that part of the plan. It is only a matter of time until people start putting 2 and 2 together, just based on what little info we even have to go on here. 2 plus 2 does not equal 5. It never has, and never will.


support July 31, 2012 6:37 pm (Pacific time)

The masks are not the same..look at the shape of the clear eye part. Yes different angles but u can tell the diffference.


supporthim July 31, 2012 6:34 pm (Pacific time)

It's even two different mask. Look at the size of the clear eye part..different shaped.


noname July 30, 2012 12:37 pm (Pacific time)

No conspiracey? Where are the gloves and booties? lol people are so gullible.

Editor: It is never wrong to question things.


Kim July 30, 2012 12:05 pm (Pacific time)

They are 2 different photos, not photo shopped. 2 photos taken at 2 different angles the second after the knife was collected by the guy in the first photo. NO Cover up...


Kim July 30, 2012 11:46 am (Pacific time)

Conspiracy theorists? I see two different photos from two different angles at two different times. One where someone was collecting evidence and one after the knife was collected and before the mask was. Also, if the mask was from a first responder they could have known that then and made the evaluation at the scene that it wasn't evidence.


Anonymous July 28, 2012 4:22 pm (Pacific time)

Thanks Editor, that was a pretty easy catch tho...55 per 1,000 is impossible, (well, except in the middle east with NATO and all) sorry about that...It was per 100,000.
Major typo on my part, thanks for catching it, I pride myself on being accurate and now I have to go spank myself. Or, get one of those things in the cartoons that have that boot attached to a contraption where you can kick yourself in the arse ;-)
My main point still stands true tho. Just not as "dramatic" thanks.

Editor: Yes, unless you are in Libya or Syria or Palestine, etc. I fully agree, thanks.


Anonymous July 28, 2012 1:19 pm (Pacific time)

Since this incident is aiding those who want our guns gone, let me add. When people say "the USA has a high murder rate", that is not a fair statement. Let me explain. In Oregon, where gun laws are more lax, there are about 50 murders per 3.7 million people. In cities like Chicago, New York, L.A., have strict gun laws, the murder rate is 50-75 per thousand. So, voicing the murder rate of the USA is misleading. Ya cant do that. States that have strict gun laws have most of the gun murders. Aurora for instance, has very strict gun laws.

Editor: Can you check those numbers?  I don't think 75 out of every 1000 people in those cities are being murdered, in fact it is not the case.  If you have better numbers I will replace these.

I feel bad for the families of the victims, but it was 12 people. Thousands died from fast and furious, the government gave them the guns to do it, and many made it back to drug cartels in the U.S. So, many more wil die from fast and furious. 100,000 die from pharma drugs, but nobody talks about that. Nobody says ban pharma drugs, they just say "ban marijuana" which has hurt no one. A million innocent civilians died in Iraq on a war that was started from lies. Not much in the mainstream about that either. Cheap and potent heroin is flowing to the U.S. coming from Afghanistan where the Marines were ordered to protect the opium fields, that were actually eradicated before the west invaded. The bankers stole 15 trillion from the American people, and they get bonuses....This surely is 1984. ..Right is wrong and wrong is right.


Anonymous July 28, 2012 12:03 pm (Pacific time)

I have come to the conclusion this whole thing was set up.. It stinks to high heaven. Yet another "we killed osama', "fast and furious", "911", "underwear bomber" "waco" "columbine" etc. event. Those in control will do anything and kill anyone to pursue their agenda, and until people understand this, it will continue, and it will continue to be used to take our basic liberties away. That is their goal, total and complete control over the serfs. They have been doing it a LONG time.


krista July 28, 2012 3:20 am (Pacific time)

THANK YOU. I am posting this everywhere I can!


romeforholmes.tumblr.com/ July 28, 2012 3:08 am (Pacific time)

Thank you so much for posting this. I am so thrilled that someone out there is attempting to try and figure out truth and points out flaws that are obvious in our media.


chris p July 27, 2012 2:52 pm (Pacific time)

I have not confirmed 100% that it is a knife, but it does seem to be a metal object, perhaps a gun magazine, but if I was taking an educated guess I would say it was a knife. Covered up with a piece of paper might I add.


chris p July 27, 2012 2:50 pm (Pacific time)

Thanks Salem News I love how you don't mind carrying stories that don't always match up perfectly with the government media's. Got a lotta respect for you guys down there. :)

Editor: Thanks much Chris, we're more out of the box than in.

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