A Mother's Nightmare: Oregon Judge Holds Canadian Child Without Cause

“You can't imagine the pain of not being able to hold your child on Mother's Day, knowing that you may never be able to hold him again.”

(SALEM / CALGARY) - Some stories are so far-fetched, so incredible, that they are hard to believe at first look, even though they ring of truth. This is especially the case where someone has lost their child to “the state”. Always, there’s more to the story than is first presented, and they usually have a complicated, negative twist. People often assume the worst, assigning guilt where it doesn't belong. Fair? That term does not apply.

The arduous journey of 12-year old Noah Kirkman is one such story. An unfinished story.

Almost two years ago, Noah came to Oregon to spend the summer with his stepfather, John Kirkman. Less than three months later, DHS took the boy into custody, and, four foster homes later, he still hasn’t been allowed to go home to Canada.

Recently, the child’s mother, 35-year old Lisa Kirkman went public with her fight, releasing her son’s story and a plea for help to the media. “My family & I have been dealing with this for almost two years, but only recently have been able to feel comfortable talking about it. We didn't want the media to negatively influence the judge. Little did we know that the judge was negatively influenced--without the media's participation.”

What Noah did to deserve this disciplinary action is nothing less than shocking, leaving family and friends to wonder what motivates Oregon’s judicial system.

John Kirkman married Noah’s mother Lisa in 2001, and raised Noah since he was a toddler. An American citizen, he is the biological father of Noah’s younger sister, Mia. John is the only father Noah has ever known.

When he and his wife lived in different places for a time and John moved to Oregon, it’s natural that his children would come to visit. June 2008 rolled around, and Lisa Kirkman drove from Calgary to Oregon, the beginning of a strange and unpredictable chain of events.

The small town of Oakridge, Oregon is nestled in the Willamette National Forest, southeast of Eugene, in the Cascade Range. Once a logging town, Oakridge has a total area of 2.0 square miles, and its population just tops 3,000.

The area is beautiful, a destination for outdoorsmen from near and far. Oakridge is a stereotypical example of down-home Oregon lifestyle, the rural area is ideal for fishing, hunting, riding bikes, raising kids. Or, so one would have thought.

Noah was 11 years old when he, his mother and little sister ventured to Oregon to visit their “Papa”. Though Noah has special needs, suffering from severe ADHD, he was an A-student and very participatory in school and sports, and was looking forward to a special visit with his Papa. His mother and sister stayed in Oregon for a short time, then headed back to Canada, leaving Noah in his stepfather’s care for the summer.

Clearly, something took place during Noah's visit that would change everything. The really shocking part is, it wasn't at all shocking. Kid's play, in fact.

"During the summer, there were four separate incidents where the Oakridge police stopped my son with other local children for things like riding a bike without a helmet," Lisa Kirkman explains, "playing in an area they shouldn't be playing, etcetera. They just spoke to them, no one was arrested. My son was singled out because the cops recognized all of the other kids except Noah and so they decided to look into it further.”

“Noah was not on his ADHD medication. They were probably suspicious because he couldn't look them directly in the eye or sit still for two seconds,” she added.

When Lisa came to Oregon to retrieve her son after a fun-filled summer with his dad, some one else showed up at her husband’s house as well: Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS).

“Apparently, the decision to take Noah was made before I arrived in Oregon to pick him up. They just showed up and took him while my daughter & I were there.

“Their explanation at first is that they took Noah because they discovered that he has a large Canadian social services file. They didn't bother to check that this file is for health services & resources, not for protection issues. They've been justifying their original mistake ever since.

“Before DHS read through the boxes of files, they took Noah, saying they'd clear it up shortly. It's been 20 months and they still haven't ‘cleared it up’ and sent him home.”

Next, DHS alleged that Noah had been abandoned by his mother in Oregon. Though he was with his legal stepfather, according to these kind hearted Oregon representatives, a stepfather isn’t a guardian and therefore Noah’s mother had broken Oregon law by leaving him in his stepfather’s care. The mother had written a medical release to her husband so her son could be treated while away from home.

Noah's biological father has never been in the picture, and his stepfather has full parental authority in Canada. “I was not aware that my husband doesn't have parental authority in the US. Either way, I do have parental authority, so why didn't they just send Noah home with me?”

There must be more to it, logic says. Perhaps the parents are undesirable characters, or have a reputation for violence, or unfit parental performance. Why else would a judge actually go so far as to remove a child from his parents while on vacation and hold him in a foreign country?

“I have been investigated by Canadian social services and found to be a good parent who provides a good home to her children and they have no concerns, so they closed my file. I've never lost custody of my daughter, who is 7,” Lisa Kirkman said.

“None of my family has been criminally charged with anything and their big complaint against me is that I "abandoned my son in Oregon" and left him with someone who technically, has no 'parental authority,' namely my husband, the only father has ever known."

By these standards, parents "abandon" their children when they send them to summer camp, as no person there would have legal "parental authority."

“My son is living proof that indeed, the US can and will steal your child just because they don't really like you, no matter which country you're from.”

Noah and his Papa, John Kirkman

“The fact is, there is absolutely nothing that I, or John, or Noah could say or do- or not say or do, that would justify a foreign country keeping him there. He's a Canadian citizen who was visiting. Even if he were in actual danger in Canada, which he is not and never was, that's up to the Canadian authorities to deal with.”

“If Canadian social services thought I was a bad parent, I would've had my children taken away from me a long time ago.”

Lisa was mandated by the Lane County Judge to participate in Home Studies, parenting classes, and months of therapy, and when those things were completed, the Judge’s response was, "This is not a checklist. I'll decide when he gets to go home."

Lisa Kirkman is a doer, not a talker. An outspoken proponent of cannabis legalization in Canada, she is assistant editor and writer for Cannabis Culture and Cannabis Health Journal, and opened a medical marijuana dispensary on BC's west coast. In 2005, she was sentenced to community service for growing medicinal pot for her husband, who has chronic fatigue syndrome but has an otherwise clean record.

Her cannabis activism is thought to be potentially responsible for the difficulties in Oregon, though there were absolutely no drug laws involved in Noah’s situation.

“I've been a working anti-prohibition activist and a member of counterculture media for over a decade, plus I'm married to an American. I know exactly the views of people in the States when it comes to drug use. It's my job to know, aside from my wanting to be aware of the situation my American friends and family have to endure,” Kirkman said.

“This judge is just tickled he caught an anti-prohibition activist in his web and is determined to make my family & I needlessly suffer.”

Judge Leonard

Judge Kip Leonard was appointed to the Lane County Circuit Court in 1989. He served as Presiding Judge of the Circuit Court from 1996 to 2000, and currently sits as the Juvenile Court judge hearing all juvenile delinquency and dependency cases. In Juvenile Court he created the state's first juvenile drug court.

“I'm not saying DHS took my son because of my activism. I'm saying the judge--who is elected and who started the Youth Drug Courts in Eugene--has been holding my son because of a political agenda. The judge doesn't even care what DHS has to say, let alone me. DHS already told the judge they want to send my son home, but the judge has said, 'No,'” Kirkman said.

“This is parental alienation, this is kidnapping, this is a system not used to parents fighting back,” said Avery Maxwell, family member. “I hope to God for your sake- this goes for everyone, that whatever political and/or activist activities you're involved in never influences the public's perception of your parenting.”

Noah turned 12 on March 21st, 2010, his second birthday away from home. Another milestone without his mother.

Lisa hasn’t seen her son since July, 2009, and the family is only permitted one 15-minute supervised call with Noah every two weeks during which they are not allowed to say anything to Noah about coming home or how much they miss him. When they have, their calls have been cut off.

“It is literally easier to visit someone in prison, than to schedule a phone call so that he can speak to his sister on the phone,” his aunt said.

Everything his mother and family send to him is screened by DHS, and they do not know how much of it he receives. Though Noah is computer literate, his foster parents do not make one available to him, so he also doesn’t have access to email.

Noah’s grandmother was allowed to meet with his therapist who confirmed that Noah did want to return home, and the only fears he had were that his own behavior would somehow keep him from going home to his family.

These are not the normal fears of a 12-year old; it is not normal for a 12-year old to be dealing with such unnecessary separation trauma, a situation with no logical rationalization.

In April, Lane County Circuit Court Judge Kip Leonard ruled that he might be open to sending Noah back to Canada when the school year ends, but there was no guarantee.

“The Canadian federal government, including Alberta Members of Parliament (MP) Rob Anders and Dan McTeague, DFAIT (Dept. of Foreign Affairs & Intl. Trade) and the Prime Minister’s Office have had several meetings about Noah and are still discussing the situation,” Kirkman said.

“MP Dan McTeague actually brought it up in Question Period in the House of Commons, and Rob Anders sent registered letters to the judge and Oregon Governor Kulongoski, plus several phone calls telling them that he planned on going down to Oregon to pick Noah up.”

"This is not a checklist. I'll decide when he gets to go home." -Judge Kip Leonard

There has been no word from Oregon’s leaders, but Judge Leonard is quoted as having stated that he "doesn't care if the Governor or President Obama, himself, tell me to send Noah home, this little Canadian boy will not be leaving this jurisdiction until I say so."

“This sets a dangerous precedent for any Canadian traveling to the US,” says Jordan Champagne, friend of the Kirkman family.

“It also is very significant politically. The state of Oregon has basically said that the Alberta government doesn't know what is best for its citizens and they need to intercede. What are they really doing? They are punishing this innocent boy by keeping him from his country, his family and his faith.

“Oregon's Department of Human Services has a long track record of incidents like this involving American children. Noah is the first known Canadian child in these circumstances,” added Avery Maxwell.

“They've been trying to justify their original mistakes since they took him and don't know how to back out of this gracefully, so they'd rather not back out at all,” said Lisa Kirkman.

According to the National Coalition for Child Protection Reform, Oregon has been removing children from their families at one of the highest rates in the nation since 1985, 70 percent above the national average and double and triple the rate in states widely considered to be models for keeping children safe. Those numbers should give all Oregonians pause.

Protecting children is foremost, but this cannot be accomplished without seeing the bigger picture, as Noah's story affirms. Without consideration for the sanctity of the family, the best welfare of children is truly at risk, and should be re-visited, if the cliché “family values” is to mean anything at all. And sometimes, a judge just has to be big enough to eat a little crow, for the good of the child.

Noah's mother, Lisa Kirkman has a Facebook page with 2,500 followers. Noah’s story has been covered first in Canada on the Calgary affiliates of CBC and CTV, the Calgary Herald and other media, including the nation's most prestigious newspaper, the Toronto Globe and Mail, and now in the United States. In addition to CNN, Lisa Kirkman has been on Portland, Oregon television stations KGW and KATU, and now featured on Salem-News.com.

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deborah parks April 14, 2012 4:00 pm (Pacific time)

AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN... THEY TAKE OUR BABIES FROM US, PUT THEM IN HARMS WAY, ACCUSE US OF CRIMES WE DID NOT COMMIT AND LEAVE US WITH NO RECOURSE IN ANY COURT OF LAW ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, TO GET OUR CHILDREN BACK.

THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR THE HAPPINESS, WELL-BEING AND LIVES OR OUR PRECIOUS BABIES. THEY LOSE THEM, ABUSE THEM, MOLEST THEM, RAPE THEM AND KILL THEM AND BLAME US FOR FAILURE TO PROTECT, AFTER THEY HAVE DESTROYED OUR MOTHERHOODS AND OUR BABIES CHILDHOODS, THEY LEAVE US DESTITUTE, WITH NOTHING, AND NO HOPE FOR A FUTURE WITH OUT CHILDREN. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

CPS AND SOCIAL SERVICES AND CORRUPT FAMILY COURT ARE ALL INVOLVED IN THIS CHILD TRAFFICKING WORLD-WIDE, OBSCENE GRANDE CONSPIRACY OF ORGANIZED CRIME, WHICH STEALS AND SELLS OUR CHILDREN, AND ARE PAID TO BOTH TAKE THEM, AND PLACE THEM IN FOSTER CARE OR ADOPTIVE HOMES, USING GOVERNMENT DOLLARS FROM OUR TAXES!

The money trail is there. In every country, it comes from the people, for the people, and it is used against the people. The government arm which reaches out and snatches our children as we walk casually by, is financed by the people themselves, and is a vicious cycle beginning with money for juvenile support and children's services. The way that it has become imbalanced leaves the youth at risk and the children being stolen from good parents for money and with the power held by this organization, even over judges and law enforcement, it is a criminal activity, legalized by government prostitutes caught up in their own profit from this conspiracy.

What we don't know, is WHO IS RUNNING THE SHOW? WHO IS PUSHING ON THE WORKERS TO STEAL MORE CHILDREN???

This is not just a process out of control and random people all deciding to make money... this is organized crime, as there ever was any organized crime, and whomever is in charge of it needs to be identified and removed from power. AND if it IS several, or several hundred, or several thousand people who are involved in this highly profitable money-making scheme, using OUR CHILDREN AS THEIR PRODUCT - then they all need to BE REMOVED! none of them need to remain in their positions of authority, judgement or power. The money needs to be frozen and re-authorized for mothers and children who have been devastated by the disruption of their lives by these evil, power forces of government parasites.

There is a beginning, and an end to everything. This needs to be the end of this. AND THE BEGINNING OF A SYSTEM OF FAMILY SERVICES RUN BY MOTHERS WHO ARE PAID WELL TO RUN THIS SOCIAL SYSTEM FOR MOTHERS, AND WHO ARE ALLOWED TO SET THEIR OWN SCHEDULES AND THEIR OWN HOURS AND WILL BE PAID FOR BEING MOTHERS AS WELL AS FOR THEIR TIME WORKING FOR THIS SERVICE... there are a million things mothers can do, fighting for our children should not be one of them. BUT, WE KNOW WHAT MOTHERS NEED, AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY RUN SOCIAL SERVICES AND CPS BETTER THAN WHOEVER IS RUNNING IT RIGHT NOW, AND THOSE WHO SHOULD BENEFIT, MOTHERS AND CHILDREN, WILL BE BENEFITING WORLDWIDE, LIKE THEY SHOULD!

We are asking everyone, worldwide to join us, worldwide, to PUT A STOP TO THE KIDNAPPING AND CHILD TRAFFICKING OF OUR CHILDREN, NOW, and support our demands to have our children returned by SOCIAL SERVICES WORLDWIDE whether they have been in foster care, adopted out, medicated or incarcerated - IF WE COME FORWARD FOR OUR CHILDREN, THEY SHALL BE RETURNED! no questions, no arguments. give them back. If they are two weeks old, or two months old or two, or six, or twelve, or fifteen!!! give them back to us now! and we will negotiate the rest tomorrow.

THIS IS WRONG, AND IT IS A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY, AND IT NEEDS TO STOP NOW!!!

Publish ? July 13, 2010 2:19 pm (Pacific time)

Federal Agents are not held accountable to the law either. As long as they tell the internal affairs interviewer they get time on the street... even for altering and forging federal documents like W-2's, Federal pay stubs, letters FROM the Federal agency... nothing happens to them... they get a letter in their file for 1 year and are right back out on the streets enforcing the same laws they broke! Why? Why? Time to start prosecuting our leaders when they don't lead!

enough July 13, 2010 2:15 pm (Pacific time)

The Judge is a Narcissist. picket picket picket research on the net what is truely going on across America. Look at the women who are losing their children and for what twisted reasons! Women, we won the fight for child support to be paid, now we are losing our children so they don't have to pay! I say let the jerks have their money and move on to the next dumb girl. Girls it's time to stand up for each other.

Root User June 13, 2010 8:03 am (Pacific time)

I had to put myself in the judges shoes for a minute in order to understand his actions. We have to remember that according to the law, Noah was technically abandoned in Oregon. Logically we know that he was in custody of a responsible adult and had all the necessities of life, but the law isn't based on logic. Hopefully the end result is a bit more realistic approach to these kinds of cases by child services before things are escalated to legal solutions. Remember, it takes a village to raise a child. Noah is back in Canada now and I think he's enjoying time with Mom.

BoilingMad May 31, 2010 8:03 am (Pacific time)

The DisHonorable Kio Leonard has to be charged with kidnapping. He needs more than disbarrment... he needs to be in prison. He is a danger to society and will now be labeled as a child abuser.

Eric Tremblay May 30, 2010 10:08 am (Pacific time)

Judge Leonard should be removed from the bench and disbarred. He has abused his position to break up a family so he could play the role of a fascist busy-body.

COI May 30, 2010 10:05 am (Pacific time)

The judge is a douchebag. I shall repeat it. Judge Leonard is a douchebag.

Vancouver Canada Parent May 30, 2010 8:43 am (Pacific time)

Was preparing for an Oregon vacation this summer. Not now. Will follow to see if there's any accountability.

Coral Anika Theill May 13, 2010 8:08 am (Pacific time)

Lisa, these are the websites I had meant to post in my former email. The last few years, I have found some comfort connecting with support groups i.e, Mothers of Lost Children http://mothers-of-lost-children.com ," Dr. Maureen Hannah, Chair for the Battered Mother's Custody Conference, http://www.batteredmotherscustodyconference.org/, Claudine Dombrowski, http://www.angelfury.org/, Stop Family Violence, http:stopfamilyviolence.org, and Liz Argate, Esq., http://thelizlibrary.org. Look up http://www.mothers-of-lost-children.com They have excellent resources and advice for situations involving mothers seeking safety from their abusers and advice for court preparation. There are numerous sites that promote healing, enlightenment and awareness of abuse and exploitation. One of my favorites sites is Sanctuary for the Abused http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/ The internet is connecting many mothers who have been battered and abused in America's family court system. Their voices are strong and loud. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Coral Anika Theill May 13, 2010 5:33 am (Pacific time)

Lisa, Here are some excellent websites for you and your supporters to look up. They have information, recommended books, articles and advice for preparing for court in these types of situations.

Patti M May 11, 2010 6:53 pm (Pacific time)

This is just one more reason I wouldn't enter the US for anything. There are extreme bullies, control freaks and complete idiots running the place.

Concerned Canadian May 10, 2010 9:05 am (Pacific time)

Obviously it is like the US to act like terrorist and try to justify it through ploitics. People just don't like calling the US terrorists because they have financial means. Terrorist are terrorists and USA is a Terrorist country they just need to admit it.

valera May 10, 2010 9:01 am (Pacific time)

Shame on this judge! The family photos speak thousands of smiles, warmth, and care. And this Judge, this low guy on the totem pole of our elected officials (and Canada's) says he will buck the President's order?!! I'm not for sure about this, but aren't soldiers shot for treason with refusing to obey a Commander-In-Chi...ef? It would be interesting to read more authoritative abuses by this judge. Oregon he represents you! Shame!!

Viktor Hugo May 11, 2010 2:15 am (Pacific time)

Look up ROB MENARD on Youtube. It all started when they took his daughter. He can help you. In the process you will find out your real rights as a human being.

Lily Munster May 11, 2010 12:59 am (Pacific time)

To Worldwide Readers: From Canada, I can confirm that Oregon FOR SEVERAL YEARS has been the source of one horror story about government child-kidnapping after another. But if you think the Canadian government will come riding in like a knight on a white horse, think again - even though Lisa has found a couple of sympathetic federal legislators. The Canadian system is all tied in with the global monsters, including the pedophiles. Government has conspired with the rings exploiting Native Indian children for years. Last month spokesperson Kevin Annett toured the U.K. with this information.

Coral Anika Theill May 10, 2010 1:55 pm (Pacific time)

To Lisa and Noah, When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall––think of it--always. --Mahatma Gandhi

Shorebreak May 10, 2010 11:32 am (Pacific time)

If this is not evidence that we are becoming a tyannical society, than nothing will prove it. My opinion is that this judge is unlikely to provide justice to this family. To do so would be career suicide for him. He'll ruin an entire family and the life of a child before he'll agree that his tyrannical perspective is harmful. The only recourse is for some kind of external motivation - either state, federal, or citizen-led. The question that I have for folks in the Salem area is "at what point does the established law (or lawmakers) become tyranny over the people - and when such a state exists, what is the obligation of the citizens to protect their community?" The American people knew the answer to that question back in 1776.

flek May 10, 2010 11:01 am (Pacific time)

I'd hire a private contractor to rescue him. I must apologize as my country has certainly lost it's mind.

Theo May 10, 2010 9:36 am (Pacific time)

This is utterly reprehensible and uncalled for. Typical of gubmint. I suffer from severe bilateral TMJ, chronic fatigue and more. Drs told me it was stress for years, driving me to bankruptcy, etc. Tried vicodin, cannabis and went to Docs for Rx. Filed for disability and was told I was drug seeking and exaggerating my illness. Denied even though I registered with the state and kept volunteering drug testing on demand. As for the kids this state has a horrible record including putting kids with KNOWN pedophiles for years. Truth and facts of record are ignored, it is all about power and control as well as dollars for them from the Feds. They do far more harm than protection.

Miss Em Badley May 10, 2010 8:56 am (Pacific time)

AHHH Yes...Part of our Amazing Corrupted World our govt and politicians have created in America...home of the FREE...Errr...Or Not so Free...Lisa, My heart and prayers go out to you. The state of MO have kidnapped my kids...sent my 16 y.o. to live with her father in CA she BARELY KNOWS and my son is stuck in MO as they have different dads. I've been trying to get him home ever since..for no logical reason whatsoever!!! It's B.S.!!! And yet they can't seem to figure out why my son has anger issues and aggression towards his foster family and the kids at his new school...Gee...I wonder why??? !!!!! We REALLY need to stop this insanity in these internal organizations and put the power and control back into the citizens hands so that American families can remain just that: FAMILIES...DFS/DHS/CPS...whatever it's called...SHOULD COME TO GRIPS WITH REALITY AND THESE SERVICES SHOULD ONLY BE USED IN EXTREME CASES WHERE IT'S ONLY A NECESSITY AND STOP TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THOSE WHERE THERE IS LITTLE NEED FOR REMOVAL OF THE KIDS...All they are doing is creating, like you said, unnecessary stress, hardship and heartache for the family. It's B.S. This has become a nationwide epidemic.

Carl May 10, 2010 8:41 am (Pacific time)

From what this 'judge', DHS, and other progressive ruling elite have done ... it is no wonder they fear and hate the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and especially fear the U.S. veterans who have sworn oaths to defend the Constitution and Americans from despots and those who would threaten the Constitution.

Lili May 10, 2010 8:10 am (Pacific time)

Email every form of media you can find. Email and call the biggest media outlets and pass this story around. TWITTER

Lili May 10, 2010 8:09 am (Pacific time)

Start CALLING, twittering,myspacing,every person, including the larger media outlets-TMZ,CNN, and FOX so incredibly sensational the mass outrage will this government moving to rectify this and quickly. Also post this story on every Mommy blog and parenting column in every newspaper you can find. For SF folks it's the Mommy Files moms@sfgate.com Her name is Amy Graff. links to newspaper http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/ radio stations http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/page?page=states House of representatives http://www.house.gov/ The senate http://www.senate.gov/ Work fast

Coral Anika Theill May 10, 2010 4:44 am (Pacific time)

To Lisa and Noah, my heart goes out to you. When you hurt, I hurt, too. I know the anguish and the raw pain of losing a child through "the system." After 20 years of being a loving and nurturing mother, I lost my 8 children, including nursing infant, in Oregon courts 14 years ago, I haven't seen them for 12 years. Please see article I have attached below from http://salem-news.com For the last 14 years, I have written books, numerous news articles, hundreds of letters, met with Senators legal assistants, contacted media, exposed judges, but to no avail. I believe the articles, though, at Salem-News.com helps raise the consciousness of this epidemic. The system is more than broken, it is corrupt. On Mother's Day I attended a Silent Vigil in front of the White House, for Mothers of Lost Children. Tim and Bonnie King were given a huge round of applause from all those attending for their passion and courage in giving mothers of loss children and all those around the world who are oppressed A VOICE. Salem-News.com is doing what Oprah and all the other news networks should be doing - EXPOSING THIS UGLY SECRET! I continue to believe in surprises, miracles, imminent possibilities and ONE FINE DAY for you and myself and ALL CHILDREN who have been removed from their loving mother. Thanks Tim and Bonnie for being the LIGHT out there in this often dark world. "Comfort the disturbed, disturb the comfortable." http://www.salem-news.com/articles/may082010/lost-moms-ct.php

May 9, 2010 11:09 am (Pacific time)

What is stopping someone from taking the youth back to Canada? I would just do it and worry about the consequences after the family was reunited...

May 9, 2010 10:58 am (Pacific time)

Leave it to the podunk effers at DHS to separate a loving mother from her kin! What makes this even worse is the memory of me going to the police to report a rape of a young family member by someone one of the police knew. The police reports were fabricated to cover up the rape and the eyewitness reports in order to protect the rapist. The police, upon filing a complaint, indicated that at least the cop had resigned from the force. Why is it that the system can do whatever it damn well pleases to whomever and nobody seems to be able to get it to work for the populace that is SUPPOSED to be in control?!

Anonymous May 9, 2010 10:55 pm (Pacific time)

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If you want to help this mother, then help her get the publicity needed. Click on the "share" links at the end of the article to help other news sites pick up the story. Don't settle for outrage, help her get her son back.

throwabrick May 9, 2010 7:37 pm (Pacific time)

"this little Canadian boy will not be leaving this jurisdiction until I say so"

I think someone needs to get over himself. What a 'd' bag.

Joemaflage May 9, 2010 4:00 pm (Pacific time)

It is all about federal incentive funds that destroy families for profit. CPS, DHS, or family court actions that destroy the family generates great wealth to the states and local courts. Look up " Title IV of the social security act" Part-D is child support incentives and Part- E is the incentives to adopt children out of the family. A few sites to check out and my email info incase you have any more questions or want more info www.myspace.com/familyrights www.youtube.com/joemaflage www.youtube.com/familyrights joemaflage@yahoo.com

Anonymous May 9, 2010 2:31 pm (Pacific time)

“Oregon's Department of Human Services has a long track record of incidents like this involving American children." Don't I know it. I have been on both sides of the DHS coin having been a foster parent and then one of the accused. I had children in my home that I could see no reason for them to still be in "the State" custody and their reasons for removal were questionable at best. And then to have the coin flipped and find yourself in a guilty unless you can prove yourself innocent situation with my words getting twisted constantly, no true investigation just accusations... It left me with such a sour pit in my soul that I withdrew as a foster parent and discourage ANYONE for getting involved with DHS in any way possible. They have become to powerful, even the police fear them... Give you a clue that something is SERIOUSLY wrong here?

p May 9, 2010 12:38 pm (Pacific time)

This is INSANE. I'll bet the reason we're hearing about it this time is because it crosses a national border. This judge needs to be thrown in a deep dark hole and made to beg forgiveness until the child decides he's over the experience the judge gave him.

Anonymous May 9, 2010 11:11 am (Pacific time)

I would like to see the judge taught the lesson he deserves to be taught! Nobody likes people who flex their might just because they have the authority...

Barbara Mathews May 9, 2010 10:27 am (Pacific time)

Another example of DHS, and judicial incomptence. It continues to amaze me the amount of downright evil being perpetrated in the name of "justice".

Beth Soloe May 9, 2010 10:15 am (Pacific time)

When a judge cares more about his own prejudices than about enforcing the law then he should have his robes taken and his gavel buried.. where are the checks and balances.. since when does the ruling of one local judge supersede international and federal law.. wtf is going on in oregon!!!

Douglas Benson May 9, 2010 8:14 am (Pacific time)

Oregon has been doing this for years to our own citizens.
There seems to be no limit to which these goverment pukes from every department will go to voilate your rights if you are involved in any way in anti-prohibition efforts .
I dont know how many people I have spoken to that would rather use cannabis than the methadone,oxycotin ect that are scared silly that putting themselves on record will bring goverment harassment of all kinds .
These fears are not without reason .Local law enforcement seems to have regular access to DHS lists of growers patients ect . participating in the OMMP without cause .How they are getting this PHI seems to be a mystery .I know the feds use the patriot act to get your PHI ,I spoke to a man who sent his daughter to job corp who had no idea her father was a patient untill they started questioning her about it .
The biggest roadblock to legalization is fear of goverment harassment,and political ruin .
How can our goverment justify abusing its power , using goverment money and resources to voilate the rights of the people to change policy .
I would like to warn anyone with a medical card that has children to keep it on the serious down low .Even though DHS has paid out several lawsuits they continue to remove children from thier parents for legal medical use .
Dont look for the harassment to end anytime soon in fact as they start to lose ground I think we can look forward to much worse . Here are some tips to keep you safer ,go to a clinic not your regular doctor to keep it off your medical file ,if you have children lock it up, dont medicate around them , if possible dont tell them at all . Never allow a search without a warrant,they are collecting evidence and want to find any excuse to arrest you take your children from the home ect .
Sign the OCTA and vote yes .Legalize tax regulate !
Peace

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