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The Dark Side of Fr. Oregon Representative Betsy Close and Joe Paterno: Depraved & Inhumane Part 2

Part 2 of 6 "There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.” — Elie Wiesel, Nobel Laureate, and Holocaust survivor

“Wings of Love” Half-Way House
“Wings of Love” Half-Way House - Killingsworth, Portland, Ore. In the spring of 1994, after my 3rd miscarriage and D & C, my husband and his pastors left me at the “Wings of Love” half-way house on Killingsworth in Portland, Oregon to punish me and break me to the “will of God” they said. It was filthy and was infested with rats and lice. Photo Credit: Debbie Dresler

(SALEM) - (Part 1) The child rape and molestation scandal at Penn State is an example of what is epidemic in Oregon and throughout America. Many of us who have been victims of sex abuse crimes are ridiculed, threatened and dismissed. Those in positions of power know what has occurred, but often dismiss the victim and protect the criminal. The victim becomes invisible. Former Oregon Representative Betsy Close, just like Joe Paterno, is guilty of protecting an abuser and criminal. She fully supported my ex-husband personally and in Court in 1996. Protecting one of your own, when they have committed horrific inhumane acts against another is one of the worse offenses you can commit in life.

Marty Warner is just one man, but it took a proverbial village and the Oregon judicial system to hide over three decades of overt abuse.

While many people focus their outrage on the judicial system alone, it’s easy to lose sight of broader problems that assist in the culture of abuse -- like churches, family members and the local community. These elements, too, played a role in the corruption and silence that has allowed a man like Marty Warner, and others like him, to operate untouched for so long.

We do the perpetrators a favor when we do not speak about the abuse.

In our society, domestic violence and abuse is socially acceptable

"Evil (ignorance) is like a shadow. It has no real substance of its own; it is simply a lack of light. You cannot cause a shadow to disappear by trying to fight it, stamp on it, by railing against it, or any other form of emotional or physical resistance. In order to cause a shadow to disappear, you must shine light on it." -Shakti Gawain

Pastor Ron & Marijo Sutter, Bridgeport
Community Chapel. Used by Permission:
Polk County Itemizer Observer. The hostile
Christians involved in my divorce reminds
me of the old adage, “Some people are so
heavenly conscious, they are no earthly good.”

My ex-husband and his religious leaders and counselors threatened me, telling me that I could not seek help for my children or report the crimes that occurred in our home.  The crimes would become a “family and church secret.”  One child was being secretly counseled by an unlicensed Christian counselor, Bill Heard, from Roseburg, Oregon, in the office of Pastor Ron Sutter, Bridgeport Community Chapel, Monmouth, Oregon.  http://www.polkio.com/ns/gen/11592/12-19-milestone

Oregon law requires parents, pastors, teachers, physicians, counselors and professionals to report crimes of sexual abuse. Sadly, Pastor Ron Sutter and Bill Heard did not report the crimes of rape, child abuse and sex abuse. This church was above the law. I continue to hear from women who report that they have also been abused by Mr. Bill Heard to this day.

In the spring of 1994, after my 3rd miscarriage and D & C, my husband and his pastors left me at the “Wings of Love” half-way house on Killingsworth in Portland, Oregon to punish me and break me to the “will of God” they said.

The Dark Side of Fr. Oregon Representative Betsy
Close and Joe Paterno: Depraved & Inhumane:
Part 1

The house was a shelter for ex-cons, street people and prostitutes. It was filthy and was infested with rats and lice. There was no lock on the room I stayed in. The ex-cons and I kept busy killing the rats with shovels.

It was a frightening experience for me during the two year episode of my breakdown for my abuser, his “cult” leaders, religious friends and supporters to be “in charge” of my “recovery program.” My brother, Don Hall, visited me at the “Wings of Love” half-way house and asked permission from my husband to let me come home with him. After several weeks, my husband finally agreed to allow me to stay with my brother for the next several months.

Mr. Bill Heard, also counseled me during the period of my breakdown in 1994, per my husband’s wishes. I was in shock and fear of these two oppressive and sick men. Mr. Heard told me I was in rebellion to God and had a proud and critical spirit. He often made fun of me, made me get on my knees and repent before him and my husband. They listed my shortcomings and sins and explained in great length all the things I had done wrong. Everything was my fault, they said. I often felt suicidal after counseling sessions with this man.

Pastor Bill & Linda Heard, Roseburg, OR - Abusive unlicensed
Christian counselors. So far, neither the judges, attorneys, hostile
witnesses, nor my ex-husband have been held accountable for the
cruel acts committed against me. Oregon's law system has given
them all a legal right to commit acts that would otherwise be viewed
as criminal, depraved and inhumane.

After my divorce, I asked his wife for my records. She said they had destroyed them because the Bill Gothard’s Institute agreed with her husband’s counsel and treatment of me. (I believe if I had lived in a different era, my husband and Mr. Heard would have burned me at the stake.)

After I birthed my 8th child in July 1995, I refused to attend my husband’s cults. Mr. Heard and my husband said I was in rebellion and threatened to put me in the state mental hospital. There was nothing wrong with me. I called my long term friend and adopted mother, Addie Archer, in Longview, Washington. She worked as a court reporter for the Superior Court of Washington State for 25 years and personally assisted me in my efforts to seek safety in 1995. Her legal advice through the years of my court trauma was invaluable. Addie passed away in 2010 at 81-years old.

In 1995, I retained an attorney not only for protection against my ex, his friends, pastors and religious supporters, but also for the safety and well-being of all my eight children. My younger daughter’s needed protection as they had been sexually molested. They needed to be examined by their pediatrician and they needed professional counseling.

My older son needed safety, too, as he had been severely abused and assaulted by my ex, Mr. Warner, for several years. I had also been raped and beaten during a period of time that I could not care for myself. I reported the documented crimes committed against me and my children. Even though the crimes against me were documented, Polk County District Attorney John Fisher dismissed the charges I filed against my ex-husband.

To this day, the abusers who have confessed their crimes against my children, including sexual abuse, are allowed full contact, while I, the mother who reported the crimes, am allowed no contact with my children per Court Order. I have also been banned from contact with my children due to the fact that I do not adhere to fundamental legalistic, cult Christian ideology.

Complicity

Mrs. Close continued to lie throughout her testimony. People who are economical with the truth do not do well under cross examination. She had difficulty keeping her distortions straight and her notes in order. Witnesses in the courtroom became humored. When my attorney asked her if she knew that my husband, Mr. Warner, and his attorney Mr. Mark Lawrence, had put me through 45 hours of depositions, that were abusive in nature, and numerous court hearings in the past few months, she said she was not aware of these facts.

Former Oregon State Representative
Betsy Close is an obstacle to women and
children seeking safety and wholeness.
Ms. Close holds many extreme fundamentalist
beliefs that are a detriment to woman and
children as well as the general community.

After she finished testifying and court recessed, Judge Albin Norblad headed to the judge’s chambers. Mrs. Betsy Close stepped down from the witness stand and approached me in a very aggressive and hostile manner. Friends in the courtroom and Christopher Vasquez, an Air Force cadet, (now a pilot and Major in the Air Force) moved to protect me from her. Judge Norblad ordered her removed from the courtroom for her disorderly conduct. I have not heard from Betsy Close since the court trial in March 1996. Someday, I would like a public and written apology.

Betsy Close and other brutalist Christians is the reason I pray, “Jesus, protect me from your followers.” Many of us wonder what makes legalistic fundamental Christians so mean.

A wise man told me: "Coral, we are all born with a triangle inside of us. This triangle has three razor-sharp points. If we lie and tell un-truths to injure or harm another, it turns and makes us hurt, bleed and feel pain inside. When people become habitually ‘untruth tellers’ the triangle spins so quickly that the pointed sharp edges are worn down to a circle that just spins and spins. They no longer feel any pain when they lie.”

I believe Fr. Oregon State Rep. Betsy Close is an obstacle to women and children seeking safety and wholeness. Ms. Close holds many extreme fundamentalist beliefs that are a detriment to woman and children as well as the general community. As long as women like her are in office, women and children will have to prepare for the worse!

The five individuals, Mr. Marty Warner, Mr. Bill Heard, Mr. Brian King, Mrs. Helen Warner and State Representative Betsy Close, that were so adamant about my rights of motherhood being removed from me, were also pro-life and “Right-to-Life” activists.  I found this ironic and hypocritical! (Betsy Close was a founding member of Options Pregnancy Care Centers, a private non-profit group.  Marty Warner was a representative for Right to Life)

While preparing me for court, my attorney, Mr. David Gearing said, “Kathy, [Coral] people lie in court." I consoled myself throughout the years of court trials and trauma with one of my favorite quotes, "Pure truth, like pure gold, has been found unfit for circulation because men have discovered it is far more convenient to adulterate the truth, than to refine themselves." Charles Caleb Cotton, Lacon (1825)

MEMO to all Oregon State Senators and Oregon State Representatives, March 20, 2003

As a human rights advocate, and advocate for the safety of women and children, I hand delivered a MEMO coralanikatheill.blogspot.com/2012/07/memo-former-oregon-state-representative.html  to all Oregon State Senators and Oregon State Representatives at the Capitol in Salem, Oregon on March 20, 2003 to inform them that Betsy Close had personally aided an abuser and did not believe a Christian woman could divorce her husband in cases of severe abuse.

"BONSHEA: Making Light of the Dark."

BONSHEA is a work of immense courage, a true tale of heartbreak and salvation. By exposing what was done to her by the court system, by the religious authorities and by their enabling cronies as she took the moral high ground by leaving an abusive husband, the author gives readers the tremendous gift of her hard-won insight and spiritual awakening.

“As shocking as it may be, Coral's story resonates with the truth. I hear pleas for help from protective mothers like Coral every day, week after week, year after year--all of them pleading for their very birthright, their greatest right, which is to be a mother.

“She pinpoints, with heart-piercing accuracy, the historical hatred of females and of the feminine that has permeated societies, including our present one, for eons. Her personal story of living with and divorcing an abusive "religious" man who was cheered on by the community's religious, governmental, and legal authorities mirrors the persecution of all women who, like Coral, choose to say "no" to male dominance and power. These include Middle Age "witches," midwives, mothers who protect their children from a father's abuse, mothers who dare to have careers and mothers who elect to stay home with their children. Coral also calls out for the only true cure for the dark side of human nature, and that is to live in the light.

“Coral's work is a special blessing for me and for my sisters throughout this country. Not a single particle of the wisdom Coral shares misses the mark.” - Maureen T. Hannah, Ph.D. "Chair,” Battered Mother's Custody Conference, Albany, New York

"Every so often a book is written that touches the heart. This is such a book. BONSHEA is an unforgettable story that will leave an indelible mark on your psyche." - Addie Archer, Longview, Washington

BONSHEA engaged my attention immediately, and then enraged me. The author has endured huge suffering at the hands of brutalists hiding behind the masks of pseudo Christianity and "justice for all." The author continues to stride toward the light in her own life--at huge personal cost--and to bring her story forward for all to consider and act upon.” - Karen Goldammer

"The power of her life is not that she escaped from a "cult", but that she continues to serve as an agent of change. This is not a "she said/he said" tale of abuse, but rather a self-damning expose of her struggle to survive." - Bruce McLelland, Washington D.C.

I Want Emancipated from Mr. Marty Warner and Oregon Courts in 2012

After my baby and young children were removed, my natural mothering and bonding chemicals that are so strong especially after the birth of a child went into physical and emotional shock. My survival in the coming days, months and years depended on me keeping the precious memories of being a mother and the bond I felt for my children in a detached place.

I no longer feel the daily joy of being a mother, and I miss that.  For my wellness to remain intact, it takes an enormous amount of emotional effort, awareness and courage to keep the precious memories I have of my children in the background.  The survival of the court trauma proved more difficult in some ways than surviving eighteen years in this marriage because when I finally found strength to try to get out–the help I had depended upon from the law, the court, etc., all betrayed me.  Justice did not come.

I continue to long for healthy interaction with my children and miss them more than words can describe.  Spiritually, I understand what has happened.  I understand money and power buy justice.  I rebuild my balance each day by mediation and by accepting the fact that everything for the moment is exactly as it should be because society has willed it so. I continue to pray for the highest good for all.  I believe in imminent possibilities, surprises, miracles and "One Fine Day."

Presently, I have not had contact with my children for 14 years, was sued for twice that I earn as a fully disabled woman, was homeless for three years, living in my car off and on, due my ex-husband legally stalking me, i.e., forty-two court related hearings from 1996-2006. In 2004, my ex, Marty Warner, also appealed a court case to the Oregon State of Appeals, suing me for an additional $50,000 for child support. I had no monies for an attorney and was required to write my own legal brief while I was homeless. The Oregon State of Appeals dismissed my ex-husband’s appeal. Since 1995, attorney and court related fees and expenses have amounted to over $200,000.

My passport was revoked years ago due to a $5,080.00 Child Support Summary Judgment my wealthy ex-husband has against me through the Polk County District Attorney’s Office. In 2003, Judge Paula Brownhill ordered that I could not visit, write, phone or send my children gifts.

Dr. Barbara May, my mentor since 1997, has documented my domestic violence case as one of the most obscene and violent cases she has been involved with in her 30 years of psychiatric practice.

Due to the Child Support Summary Judgment hanging over my head, I could be threatened with jail time as a “punishment” and my driver’s license could be revoked. Well-meaning individuals have confronted my ex-husband this past year in regards to the judgment requesting that he dismiss it by signing a “Child Support Summary Judgment Dismissal “In Kind” Form. Mr. Warner informed them he will never dismiss the judgment.

The individuals listed below acted in a hostile manner and were a threat to my survival and safety. They claim to be Christians, but have a lot to learn about “Christed-ness and compassion.”

Advocates and supporters are welcome to contact the following people to recommend dismissal of the Child Support Summary Judgment and help right some of these wrongs. 

Fr. Oregon State Representative Betsy Close, Phone: (541) 941-7593,  Albany, OR 97321

 

Marty Warner, Phone: (503) 838-1662, Independence, OR

 

Pastor Ron & Marijo Sutter, Phone: (503) 623-4082, Monmouth, OR

                  

Sarah (Warner) & Ben Bobeda, Rachel (Warner) & Jesse White,  Phone: (503) 551- 2838,  (503) 551-3589, Salem & Albany, Oregon

                    

Bill & Linda Heard, Phone: (541) 580-4953, (541) 580-4952, Roseburg, OR,

 

Peggy Warner, Phone: (360) 568-4939, (425) 337-4000, Snohomish, WA, Steve & Jane Warner, (425) 337-4992, Everett, WA,

 

Bill & Beverly Moerke, Phone:  (509) 526-5561, 27 Sullivan Place, Walla Walla, WA,

 

Bernie Warner, Phone: (503) 815-2996, Sun Acres Farm, Tillamook, OR 97141

                                          
Speaking out and requesting that the violence committed against me be acknowledged and resolved is an act of self-respect, love and healing. Seeking resolution is NOT seeking revenge.

In November 2011, my trusted friend and editor, Judy Bennett, from Monmouth, Oregon contacted me.  She had received a disturbing call from a woman who had attended a Christian rally nearby.  The woman had met my ex-husband, Marty Warner at the rally.  He told her and other individuals that I had committed suicide and was dead.  Even though he claims I am dead, I continue to receive the judgment he has against me for child support each month. 

Not Allowed to Attend my Brother’s Funeral

The court order sought by my ex-husband and abuser, denying me visitation privileges in 1999 also created complications in July 2009. I was not permitted to attend my own brother’s funeral. My brother’s pastor reported that my ex-husband was attending the funeral, as well as my younger children. According to the Oregon Court Order, I could be arrested for attending the funeral due to being in the same vicinity of my younger children - a violation of Judge Paula Brownhill’s court orders. I emailed the pastor my eulogy for my brother’s service.

I believe the courts and churches that are so adamant in punishing women who seek safety have not yet realized the long term ramifications for the victim. As a child, I could not have imagined that Court Orders, due to my ex-husband’s wrath, would prevent me from adequately grieving for the loss of my only brother and sibling. Only in America.

We are as Sick as Our Secrets

Bridgeport Community Chapel, Monmouth, Oregon, Instead
of vessels of love, compassion and understanding, they became
my judges, jury and executioner.

In 2003, my ex and his attorney filed a Motion of Contempt against me due to attending my 16 year old son’s football game at Santiam Christian School, at my son’s request. At the game, my ex-husband violently abused my 11 year old daughter, Hannah. There were many witnesses, including me; charges against my ex were filed with the Corvallis Police Department, children and parents shared their testimony. The abuse charge against Mr. Warner was dismissed due to Mr. Warner’s and Hannah’s testimony that “nothing happened.” Children living with abusers learn that accepting abuse and keeping quiet is “safety.” Secrecy and denial become a way of life. A few years ago, my ex-husband served as a foster parent for a troubled 15 year old boy from Bridgeport Community Chapel.

In the years that followed, due to severe brainwashing, my children shun me and some of my children have written me “hate letters,” My adult children have invited batterers, rapists and child abusers/molesters to their weddings and events, but I, their mother who protected them, am not welcome.

When I am no longer here, who are my children going to hate and blame?

Closing

I have spent long hours trying to make some sense of my life and have come to the conclusion when horror overcomes us the only response possible is to remember what happened and tell the story.

"When the content of the story cannot resolve the irrationality of such suffering, of any suffering, the act of telling the story can be the one valid moral response, the sole way to give what happened a meaning. Hopefully in writing, telling the story, it can give the suffering ultimate significance and meaning to an experience of a destruction of meaning." –Robert H. Hopcke, There Are No Accidents

The traumatized person who accomplishes the work of recovery and healing has the potential of becoming more integrated and more aware and conscious than the person who has endured no blatant trauma and has never had to piece together a shattered psyche.

Once on the other side, (of our crisis), one must look back and throw down a footbridge, for followers to use. When you have "jumped outside of the given", there is an obligation to share with others what you learned. You must not only tell how you got there, but the process of survival as well. Someone must have the wisdom, courage and strength to live their truth fearlessly. That someone becomes "the living bridge."

I hope Betsy Close will step down from running for political office and seek the professional and spiritual help she needs.  Mrs. Close is an “unsafe person.” www.salem-news.com/articles/february202011/safe-people-ms.php

Sadly, Betsy Close exemplifies the saying, “If you can’t be a good example, you will just have to be a horrible warning.”

The Dark Side of Fr. Oregon Representative Betsy Close and Joe Paterno: Depraved & Inhumane: Part 1

(To be Continued in Part 3)

1 “Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype” by Clarissa Estes, Ph.D.

Radio Program: Listen to Coral Theill's guest appearance on the "Majority United" Radio Program, Feb. 13, 2012: www.blogtalkradio.com/freemenow/2012/02/14/the-majority-united

Related Articles:
May-8-2010: A Mother Does Not Forget Her Children: First March on Washington for Mothers of Lost Children - Coral Anika Theill Salem-News.com

May-10-2010: SILENT VIGIL AT WHITE HOUSE: Mothers of Lost Children - Coral Anika Theill Salem-News.com

Feb. 26, 2010: "The Gift of Healing is Our Birthright - What an Advocate Looks Like" - Coral Anika Theill Special to Salem-News.com

May-12-2007: Abuse Under the Watch of Oregon's Justice System - Tim King Salem- News.com

Nov-29-2007: Welcome to Oregon: Land of Domestic Abuse Endorsement - Coral Anika Theill Special to Salem-News.com

Nov-28-2007: Marital Rape and Abuse Victim Seeks Justice From Oregon's Governor - Coral Anika Theill Special to Salem-News.com

May-10-2009: Oregon Should Consider Coral Theill this Mother's Day - Tim King Salem-News.com

May-29-2008: What Abuse Survivors Expect from the Portland Crime Victims Conference - Tim King Salem-News.com<

Jan. 11, 2012: Attorney General Kamala D. Harris Calls on Congress to Reauthorize Violence Against Women Act www.salem-news.com/articles/january112012/vava-revival.php


Coral has written six articles on Montford
Point Marines of WWII: five articles are
published at Salem-News.com and one article
at Leatherneck Magazine. In 2011 Coral
Theill received the National Montford Point
Marine Association Lester Granger Award for
her advocacy and support.

Coral Anika Theill, reporter and advocate, is author of "BONSHEA: Making Light of the Dark." Her published works address abuse, trauma recovery and healing from post-traumatic stress and most recently, wounded Marines, the Warrior Games and Montford Point Marines.

Her writings have encouraged and inspired numerous trauma victims and wounded Marines/soldiers recovering from PTS and TBI. Coral's positive insights as a survivor have also earned the respect of clinical therapists, advocates, attorneys, professors and authors. BONSHEA has been used as a college text for nursing students at Linfield College, Portland, Oregon and can be ordered at: http://amazon.com, http://barnesandnoble.com or http:// iUniverse.com

www.coralanikatheill.com Email: coraltheill@hotmail.com

"Those who serve may already know the toll of having to kill or be killed, but civilian society should also recognize that those who go into battle defending our way of life pay a price. I feel a deep gratitude to our servicemen and women and believe our society needs to do more to respect, understand and support those returning from deployment in conflict zones.” – Coral Anika Theill, Contributing Writer for Leatherneck Magazine

The Commandant of the Marine Corps on Post-Traumatic Stress and Traumatic Brain Injury and Invisible Battle Scars: Confronting the Stigma of PTS and TBI www.woundedwarriorregiment.org/documents/pao/Leatherneck_Oct_PTS_TBI.pdf

Catch Coral's military articles published on Salem-News.com at this link



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Coral Anika Theill October 3, 2012 9:19 am (Pacific time)

"There is a trauma clearly caused by the actions of another human being, an agent of trauma. But when the traumatic events are of human design, those who bear witness are caught in the conflict between victim and perpetrator. It is morally impossible to remain neutral in this conflict. The bystander is forced to take sides. It is very tempting to take the side of the perpetrator. All the perpetrator asks is that bystander do NOTHING.....the victim, on the contrary, asks the bystander to share the burden of pain. The victim demands action, engagement and remembering. ---Judith Herman, TRAUMA AND RECOVERY, pp. 7-8 I will add that the victim also demands justice, restitution, vindication and apologies. "But unfortunately the likely human response to this trauma is to do nothing, except to blame the victim: what was she wearing; what was she doing there; why did she marry him; etc....There is little empathy or sympathy, a deflection of attention away from the agent of the trauma and a tendency to silence or ostracize the victim altogether. The moral substance of this trauma is murky. And since the perpetrator most likely is someone known to both the victim and her community, bystanders prefer not to get involved."


Abuse Advocate October 1, 2012 7:12 pm (Pacific time)

In your article you said, "In November 2011, my trusted friend and editor, Judy Bennett, from Monmouth, Oregon contacted me. She had received a disturbing call from a woman who had attended a Christian rally nearby. The woman had met my ex-husband, Marty Warner at the rally. He told her and other individuals that I had committed suicide and was dead. Even though he claims I am dead, I continue to receive the judgment he has against me for child support each month." Amazing how a man can go to a Christian rally and then lie like that with no conscience. And...demand child support from the mother of his children just for the sake of revenge. He seems to be eaten up with hatred.


Apostasy Watcher September 28, 2012 5:38 pm (Pacific time)

The majority of churches, and that includes name brand mega churches, and all the main stream organized religious system is in apostasy, a "fallen away" back slidden condition. Only those who have come to a place of truly seeking God and the truth have been able to see through this facade of Nicolaitan leadership. Unfortunately also, this false religious system, which has nothing to do with the true teachings of Jesus Christ, makes room for the Marty Warners of the world who twist scripture to mean something other than the truth and gives them an aura of "respectability" when the truth is that they are the modern day Pharisees of our day and far from the truth, no matter what kind of front they put on. This is the problem of today's churches and organized religion.

"In [cults], much emphasis is placed on ‘trusting God’s leading through others’ – the ‘others’ being those in leadership. In reality, this means surrendering one’s independence, obeying in all things, and submitting to the leaders… it amounts to subjugation of members to the leadership. Failure to comply with the authoritarian dictates of the group can result in ex-communication.” ~ Ronald Enroth, Churches That Abuse


Apostasy Watcher September 26, 2012 8:21 am (Pacific time)

Mr. Warner, Coral's witness against you is true. The truth of this is laid bare by the very fact that you are still legally stalking her and using the courts to attempt to milk money from her when she already lives below the poverty level and has for many years. A true Christian man would not treat the mother of his children this way. It is not scriptural in any way. There is no possible way you can try to justify your actions according to the teachings of Jesus. Why don't you set Coral free of any financial charges you have persecuted her with continually since your divorce? You claim to be a Christian, then prove it by your deeds.


Barb Mathews September 25, 2012 7:08 pm (Pacific time)

Marty Warner reminds me of "The Hound of Baskervilles". "The story of an attempted murder inspired by the legend of a fearsome, diabolical hound".
Clearly diabolical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hound_of_the_Baskervilles



Abuse Advocate September 24, 2012 11:05 pm (Pacific time)

"Pastor" Ron and Marijo Sutter are just as culpable as anyone in this disgusting miscarriage of justice. They covered up for Ms. Theill's ex-husband Marty Warner, and allowed this man to slither around in their congregation. Money and "tithes" talk don't they? How dare you people call yourselves Christians. I am so sick and tired of seeing your kind take root and absolutely RUIN churches, and commit spiritual abuses such as you perpetrated on Coral Theill.


Coral Anika Theill September 2, 2012 9:32 am (Pacific time)

Dear Readers, It looks like someone who read my articles and story at Salem-News.com decided to make a comment on Topix in Corvallis Oregon. See their comment and links below:


"WILL THE REAL BETSY CLOSE PLEASE STAND UP."


Betsy, shame on you. You should not be running for public office. To be a servant of the people of the good county of Benton, and the State of Oregon, a person should be of good moral character. So, unless you have repented and changed,(drastically),in the last few years that disqualifies you as an acceptable public servant.

Some moral and spiritual crimes will never be prosecuted in the courts of this land, but there are those that remember you lied under oath, and could possibly have been,(and should have been) arrested and put in jail for perjury. I suppose being a hypocrite is not a crime, so at least with some people-of the same moral caliber-you get a free pass on that issue.

However, did you ever consider that running for a public office would open you up to scrutiny? That's a good thing- because now, at least some of the people in Benton County will be forewarned about you.

And did you ever consider when you lied about a good person and did terrible harm and injury that what you did would eventually come back to bite you? I think that time is now Betsy. Please remember that before you make the choice to hurt another person-or-an entire county of people.


http://spiritualabusesanctuary.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/spiritual-abuse-the-coral-theill-story/


The Coral Anika Theill Story with BONSHEA: Take Me Higher Music Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-EBRdJJwMY


Barb Mathews August 30, 2012 8:59 pm (Pacific time)

"Wings of Love" looks more like a German Concentration Camp than a Christian half way house.


Coral Anika Theill August 30, 2012 10:55 am (Pacific time)

In our society, domestic violence is encouraged and condoned by patriarchal based religious organizations. The fundamental evangelical Christian movements (cults) that thrive today refuse to speak out against domestic violence, rape, incest and abuse because their doctrines are the foundation for conditioning women and children to accept abuse. Women and children are taught shame, fear and guilt and that patriarchal hierarchy must be lived out in the homes. Patriarchal religion has proven to be devastating for women around the world. External oppression of a people leads to internal oppression.

Editor: Thank you Coral!


Anonymous August 29, 2012 11:55 pm (Pacific time)

Sick, sick, sick and depraved inhuman people devoid of love, empathy, kindness, gentleness, MERCY or simple human compassion one would even have for a poor animal. But how can the saying go, that these "Are so heavenly minded they are no EARTHLY good"? I say they are so earthly minded they are no heavenly good, because even the bible they claim to follow says this in James 3:15.."This wisdom descends not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish". So, it "tells on them". They are HYPOCRITES to the very core of their being. It must be very miserable to be such a person.


Coral Anika Theill August 19, 2012 6:51 am (Pacific time)

Whenever the custodial parent practices control and manipulation tactics in order to separate child from mother, justice cannot be served.This is the lowest and most hateful form of spousal revenge. As long as mothers are unfairly separated from their children and those who hold the power fail to acknowledge and support the rights of non-custodial parents, justice cannot be achieved.


twilightzone_1 August 18, 2012 11:27 am (Pacific time)

I just glanced over your article. I have seen something wrong in the Roseburg area for a long time. "Christian" groups are using the same tatics as Pagan and even Satanist groups. I also experiences these tatics in the medical profession.


Susan W. August 15, 2012 9:12 am (Pacific time)

As usual, those who don't have the resources to defend themselves are the ones who pay: the children, the poor, the shunned - all the abused. We put or leave them out there as human sacrifices, and instead sing the praises of the rich, the famous, the well-connected. Can't we have a heart and justice for those without a means of defense? Is it a form of Stockholm Syndrome that we so often want to identify with the powerful and the abusers?

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